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Which clinics/REs use Saizen in Toronto?

Started By CROCKS , Sep 18 2014 09:46 PM
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#1 CROCKS

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 09:46 PM

I've just finished my first IVF round and all my 5 embryos came back abnormal from the CCS/PGS testing.  We are debating doing another round but if we do it I would like to try Saizen for poor egg quality. I don't have DOR but just bad eggs... AMH is 16.0, FSH 4 and had 14 mature eggs retrieved.  I don't even know if Saizen will help in my situation but just starting to do some research on the topic.

 

Can you recommend a clinic/RE in Toronto that use Saizen?  I am with Lifequest for recurrent miscarriages but I have a feeling they don't use Saizen.  (Please correct me if I am wrong).

 

Anyone out there have all abnormal eggs and then go on to have a successful round? 

 

Thanks!

Carline.

 

 


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-pregnancy showing large cystic hygroma - Turner's Syndrome (terminated)

-3 miscarriages (2 cause unknown, 1 with Trisomy 22)

IVF#1 Sept 2014, 14 mature eggs, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 10 at day 3, 4 at day 5/6, all abnormal with PGS/CCS testing. 

BCP, Gonal F, Luveris, Orgalutran

IVF#2 March 2015, 13 mature eggs fertilized with ICSI, 1 day 5 blast

FET July 2015

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#2 quandry

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 07:32 AM

I believe mfc uses hcg a few days before retrieval to help with quality (saizon is hcg).

Not sure about other places. Good luck!

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#3 SunshineTTC

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 01:34 PM

No, Saizen is HGH... human growth hormone.  Hcg (human chorionic gonadotropin) is the trigger shot before retrieval.


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#4 quandry

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:10 PM

AHH, yes!  Sorry, my bad!  


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#5 Graceland

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 06:50 PM

Dr. Hannam at the Hannam Fertility Centre uses Saizen. He's a FABULOUS RE - I can't sing his praises high enough.
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Posted 20 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

I concur with Dr. Hannam.  I somehow got in to see him after I got PG (long story)...  He's amazing.  He actually emails me every time I have an US and blood tests just to check in, and let me know he is happy with the results!  I've never had that happen before, and it's really impressive.


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#7 KinseyT

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:20 AM

Apparently Saizen isn't used at Lifequest because they feel there isn't enough research to back it up, and are reluctant to play around with human growth hormone without good reason. That's what they told me when I called and asked anyway. :)


#8 CROCKS

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:59 PM

Thanks so much!  I did ask Lifequest and they said they have used it but wouldn't likely try it with me.  I've got an appt with MFC so hopefully a second opinion will help educate me.


Me:39 DH:37 DD: 4.5

-normal pregnancy

-pregnancy showing large cystic hygroma - Turner's Syndrome (terminated)

-3 miscarriages (2 cause unknown, 1 with Trisomy 22)

IVF#1 Sept 2014, 14 mature eggs, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 10 at day 3, 4 at day 5/6, all abnormal with PGS/CCS testing. 

BCP, Gonal F, Luveris, Orgalutran

IVF#2 March 2015, 13 mature eggs fertilized with ICSI, 1 day 5 blast

FET July 2015

BFP

#9 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 01:11 AM

Saw this thread and just wanted to pop in. I'm spoke with my RE last week who attended ASRM at the end of October and apparently the findings presented there was that for 17% of DOR patients HGH can make a positive difference. It's a measurable difference but low odds. Apparently the recommended protocol is to start on day 6 of stims.
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#10 hoping 4 miracle #2

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:08 AM

At Markham Dr Virro starts his patients on HCG as soon as you get a positive and continue for 12weeks (yes it's also the trigger shot)

ttc: since early 2003
me: 40 dh: 37
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BFP beginning of Oct '03
MC at end of Nov '03
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IVF #1
Jun 28 '07, ER -7
Jul 01 '07, ET -1
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Aug 06 '07 1st ultrasound saw twinkling & heard strong heartbeat
Aug 28 '07 2nd ultrasound no heartbeat https://ivf.ca/forums...O_DIR#/8388.gif
D&C

Demanded RE send me for tests to start investigating miscarriages.
Sent to T.E.R.M.

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Sept 03 '08, ER -6
Sept 08 '08, ET -2 Blasts
BFP..
miscarried https://ivf.ca/forums...MO_DIR#/cry.gif

2010 - Applied and completed CAS adoption process and homestudy - might be a really long wait

Feb 2011 - met with Dr Hannam ... Thought my previous problems were due to implantation issues
April 2011 - met with Dr Virro... Had a feeling I had immune issues
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Started Lupron Shots May 30 '11
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Transferred 2 "good looking blasts" 1 frozen for another day
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FET #1 Mar 2014 - BFN

IVF #4 - Aug 2014 cycle cancelled. Left ovary not responding and only 2 follicles on right by day 12
IVF #5 - Sept 2014 transferred 2 Blasts have one frostie
BFN :(

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#11 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 08:38 AM

HGH is Human Growth Hormone (Omnitrope or Saizen). HCG is Human Chorionic Gondatropin which is used as a trigger.
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It was long, awful & hard. We got very lucky and didn't run out of both emotional and financial resources. We saw some of the most beautiful of people in our lowest moments. Baby Girl arrived Apr 10/2018

#12 KinseyT

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 10:47 AM

CdnHockeyGal is right, they are two different things entirely.


#13 KinseyT

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 10:55 AM

P.S. Congrats on your BFP CdnHockeyGal!!!!!!


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