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#1 oceanbluesngreens

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 12:42 PM

Hi everybody,
I'm new to this board. I learned about this site from Hannam Fertility Centre in Toronto where DH and I just recently completed our diagnostic cycle monitoring. We have plans for IVF with ICSI in July 2014. My husband and I have been married for 4 years and TTC for 3 years now. We both have a strike against us with our fertility (me:
endometrioma on L. ovary and endometriosis. DH: Azoospermia [non-obstructive and obstructive]).so together and independently we've had a rough time coping with matters as we endeavor down this baby business journey; however, I have to say we are doing better at this time than we were at this time last year, which is when we began to find out the cause of our fertility issues. Last year at this time I couldn't even talk about our issues with anybody (friends, family, coworkers) without breaking out into tears... I remember for almost a year I avoided seeing my friends; I cried for the entire day on Mother's Day last year and got into a major argument with my husband because he bought mother's day gifts and cards for his grandma and mother, but nothing for me. My husband and I ended up having to undergo therapy as a couple for a few months last Spring, took the Summer "off", and then I continued on my own into the Fall, because I was having a more difficult time coping. Today, we are both coping with our issues much better. I've been reading self-help books (Alice Domar's "Conquering Infertility" really helped me learn coping mechanisms). I've learned to become more open with my friends, to explain what it is I am going through and what it is that I need from them to help support me. I can now talk about my DH and I's issues without sobbing. However, it's still not all peaches and roses; DH and I both still can't help but wonder if someone is trying to tell us something, because each time we think we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, new and more complicated challenges continue to present themselves to us, and there were are again, feeling like we are set back again on our quest for a baby. With each challenge we are trying to think that "this too shall pass" and are trying to "keep calm and chive on". Each night before I go to sleep I try to think of 5 things that I am thankful for. This has really helped me to keep my thoughts positive and to keep my life in perspective.

I'm really looking forward to getting to know others on this site and to supporting one another. 
Thanks for reading :) 
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Here's a snapshot of our history:
Me: 34 y.o.; DH: 37 y.o;

July 2011 -  started TTC

May 2012 - DH: SA ordered; GP report to DH that test results = "normal" range.

Jan to July 2013 - DH and me: RE ordered a series of b/w for us both and another SA for DH. 
Mar 2013 - DH: SA results = vol. 1.5 mL (less than 1 million sperm). Rare motility and very low morphology. 
April 2013 - DH: confronted GP with news from RE about SA from May 2012 that results were not "normal" but actually quite the opposite. Severely abnormal! Both heartbroken. GP apologized and admitted he'd misread the SA. sad.png  What a waste of time...
May 2013 - Me: started taking Levothyroxine med to regulate thyroid (hypo-thyroidism).

July 2013 - Me: u/s discovered 4.2 cm cyst on left ovary. Fallopian tubes open.

Oct 2013 - Me: u/s re-administered, cyst now 4.8 cm. Possible endometriosis. Need surgery to remove. Stopped actively TTC. 
Nov. 2013 - DH: biopsy and u/s with UR... u/s revealed obstructive azoospermia (thin vas deferens) and non-obstructive azoospermia (sperm not maturing in testicle - unexplained).

March 2014 - Me: Laparoscopy surgery performed to remove endometrioma cyst on L. ovary. Biopsy revealed non-cancerous. Stage 3 endometriosis removed.

April 2014 - Me: Began cycle monitoring (b/w & u/s) with Hannam Fertility Centre. 

May 2014 - DH: consult with UR at Mt. Sinai. Suggested sperm banking and suggested surgery TESA (testicular sperm aspiration) for IVF with ICSI in July 2014. Will have DS on hand incase TESA doesn't work (or if there's nothing worth extracting) so as to not waste IVF cycle...... 
Now we wait...


<p><strong>Me</strong>: <strike>31</strike> <strike>32</strike> <strike>33</strike> 34 TTC for 3 1/2 years<em><strong>DOR/Endometriosis; AMH: 6  /  FSH: 11  /  AFC: 8; Hypo-thyroidism </strong></em>(0.05 1x daily L.thyroxine)</p><p>Visually impaired (no peripheral vision in right field of both eyes); no driver's license<strong>DH:</strong> <strike>35</strike> <strike>36</strike> <strike>37</strike> 38 </p><p>Low sperm count (non-obstructive and obstructive Azoospermia); cause unknown and unexplained.<strong><em>July 2011</em></strong> - Started TTC... referred to several different specialists between DH and I over the past 3 years... <strong><em>March 2014</em> </strong>- <b> </b>Lap surgery performed and removed endometriosis growing on bladder and endometrioma cyst in L. ovary. Biopsy revealed non-cancerous Stage 3 endometriosis.</p><div><strong><em>April 2014</em></strong> - IVF is our only option due to my endometriosis and needing ICSI for DH's swimmers. Began CM with Hannam Fertility Centre in Toronto (Dr. Robb).</div><p><em> </em></p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.0</u> </strong>- <em><strong>May/June 2014</strong></em> (postponed due to polyp)</p><p>- <em><strong>June 6/14</strong></em> - Polypectomy performed</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.1</u> </strong>- <em><strong>June/July 2014</strong></em> (postponed again due to AF arriving after only 14 day cycle and still need to consult with OB at Mt. Sinai re: concerns over medication ASA and IVF)</p><p><strong><em>July 2014</em> </strong>- July consult with ob-gyn at High Risk Pregnancy Group re: ASA requested to change to Lovenox instead of ASA during IVF cycle.  Begin Lovenox injection on July 25, 1x daily with BCP.</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.2</u></strong> - <em><strong>August/September 2014</strong></em>: OCP - controlled Antagonist Cycle </p><p><em><strong>July 25/14</strong></em> - begin Marvelon BCP until August 16<em><strong>August 23/14</strong></em> - begin Gonal F 250 and Menopur 75</p><p>Day 8 of stims - Cycle at risk for being cancelled. Stimulated longer, 12 days total, 3 follicles. <em><strong>September 4/14</strong></em> - ER. Only two eggs retrieved.</p><p>One fertilized with DH's fresh sperm with ICSI.<em><strong>September 7/14</strong></em> - ET. One 6-10 cell embryo transferred. Nothing to freeze. Begin Progesterone suppositories 3x daily and Estrace 2x daily... 3 terrible migraines w/ nausea during 2ww.</p><p><em><strong>September 18/14</strong></em> - Celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary with a<img src="<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ivf.ca/forums...ult/th_abfp.gif'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='%27'>'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a>"</a> title=":th_abfp:" alt="th_abfp.gif">  squinter on FRER!!! </p><p><em><strong>September 22/14</strong></em> - <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfn.gif"</a></a> title=":th_abfn:" alt="th_abfn.gif">  at beta <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png"</a></a> title=":(" alt="sad.png">...completely devastated.</p><p><em><strong>October 6/14</strong></em> - WTF appointment...egg quality is good, but quantity is diminished... 10-15% chance of success with MOE if we cycle again. Shocked... Feeling overwhelmed and exhausted... considering donor eggs and adoption...</p><p><em><strong>November 4/14</strong></em> - WTF meeting again with RE at HFC to further discuss options... Decided to move on to donor eggs...</p><p>Referred to CReATe Fertility Centre in Toronto (for donor egg cycle). Waiting for consultation with Dr. Librach on December 23/14.</p><p><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>December 23/14</strong> - Changed clinics - Consultation with Dr. Librach at new clinic (CReATe). He is recommending we try IVF #2 with a new plan. Right ovary looks really good. Underwent all workup u/s and b/w again. Waiting for test results (end of January 2015).      </span> All test results good. No auto-immune diseases. Starting IVF #2 March 2015. Fresh cycle, new protocol (Long Lupron), started Lupron shots Feb 17/15. Started stims Mar. 1/15 (Bravelle & Menopur). Started Fragmin shots on stim day 3. Egg retrieval Mar. 14/15, 9 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, 3 fertilized with ICSI, planning day 3 transfer Mar. 17/15.

#2 ENF

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 05:36 PM

Welcome to the site Ocean! I know you'll find a lot of support and information on this site. I know I did! You may want to join a cycle buddies group for July 2014 so you can go through your cycle with other women who are cycling in July. It's awesome to have a support network amidst the unknown of IVF. Best of luck to you!


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Me - 37   DH - 45 (Paraplegic)   
 

FET planned for spring 2017


#3 Anas

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

Welcome!

I can relate to you a lot in many ways. We also had a lot of issues. We never actively sought therapy as a couple though. I understand how crazy this can be. Wish you best of luck!

The good news is that you are probably under the best possible care in Canada according to a lot of people. So stay positive.


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TTC since Dec. 09
Me (35) him (30)
Unexplained infertility but have only one ovary (lost right to dermoid cyst in Nov. 07) and he has low morphology (5%)

July 10 - Consultation at OFC
All test results normal (did not do Kruger test or AMH test) and was told to try for another 6 months
FSH around 6, antral foli count 9 (on the left)

Dec 10 - Asked to be transferred to MTL (OVO) from OFC
April 11 - Saw Dr. Jamal, antral folli count 8 (on the left) and AMH test show low ovarain reserve (due to a single ovary). Given Clomid for two cycles, had bad reaction (very cranky) and BFN. Dr. Jamal suggested Natural IVF without stimulation. Hated OVO dearly (long wait time, extreme lack of organization, nurses, etc). Googled and found MFC. Consultation booked in Sept. 11

Sept. 11 - Saw Dr. Sophia at MFC. She suggests a standard IVF.
Sept. 11 - Learned that private insurance thru work have coverage up to 20K for IVF (Thank goodness!)
Decided to go for 1st trial at OFC given proximity.

IVF #1 (Oct 11) at OFC (Dr. Haebe) - Puregon 400 IU for 9 days. 9 leading follicles (and 8 smaller ones), which resulted in 5 eggs (but one degenerated). Only 2 fertilized thru ICSI (embryo quality second best and average). Day 3 transfer of 2 embryos, which resulted in BFN

IVF #2 (Nov 11) at MFC - Puregon 300 IU and Menopure 75 IU for 10 days. 8 leading follicles (and some smaller ones). egg collection Nov. 16/11. 7 eggs collected out of 8 follies. 6 are mature and ALL SIX FERTILIZED!!! 5 day transfer of 1 blast Nov. 21/11. Beta scheduled Dec. 2nd 1st Beta 10dp5dt 287. 2nd beta scheduled Dec. 5th 2nd Beta 14dp5dt 1,524

1st U/S Dec. 19th (6wks & 6 days): heartbeat measured at 137bpm, baby measuring 7.2mm, cervix measured at 32.9mm

 

August 12, 2012: A beautiful baby girl born at 11:21 pm measuring 8 lbs 3 ounces/53 cm long

 

Trying for Number 2

October 7, 2013 - CD1

October 9, 2013 - First consultation

Start stimulation Friday October 11 (Puregon 300 & Menopur 75) for 10 days

Last us on October 21, 2013 7 leading follicles - Trigger shot tonight (Ovidral)

Retrieval October 23, 2013 - 6 eggs retrieved

Ferti report October 24, 2013 - 4 mature eggs and only 2 fertilized

At this point, I am losing hope.

Oct 25, 2013 - Surprisingly Dr. M. wants us in for 5 day transfer

ET October 28, 2013: one young blastocyst to transfer

2WW

8dp5dt HPT Positive yahoo.gif

Some spotting on 9dp5dt and 10dp5dt huh.png

Beta scheduled November 8,2013

1st beta 11dp5dt 106

2nd beta 14dp5dt 525.6

Viability scan scheduled Nov. 21, 2013

Viability scan shows fetus behind schedule by a couple of days

Repeat U/S

Discovered on Dec 10/2013 that fetus stopped growing at 7wk4days (Missed miscarriage)

 

2.2.

CD1 March 29. First consult on March 31. Same protocol.

Stimulated for 8 days trigger April 8. ER April 10. Out of 8 follicles, 6 eggs retrieved. Only 1 egg was mature & fertilized. Clinic recommends Day 2 transfer. We declined Day 2 transfer given this may be a complete waste.

Dr.M. understood our concern & agreed. Booked for a Day 5 transfer (but will be a miracle if this one embryo makes it to Day 5). Dr. M. advised that the embryo on Day 2 is 4 cell grade 1. So there is little hope.

Ok no call until Tuesday, which means we are going in for a transfer on Day 5. ET on April 15. Transferred an excellent quality blastocyst. Now 2WW. Blood test April 28. BFN

 

2.3.

CD1 August 18. First consult on August 19. Spoke with Dr. M about two wishes - minimum 10 day stimulation & 5 day transfer. Stimulated for 11 days. ER September 4. Out of 9 follicles, 6 eggs, 4 mature and all fertilized. Dr. M called and suggest double Day 3 transfer. However, DH veto a double transfer. Sticking to Day 5 transfer. ET September 9. Suprisingly out of 4 embryos on Day 3, 3 made to blastocysts. Transfer 1 Day 5 blastocyst. Shocking call the next day saying two left over embryos were good enough for freezing. 2ww Turned out to be a chemical pregnancy

 

2.3.1.

FET CD1 Sept 27 First consultation Sept 30 Oct 16 Transferred two blastocysts 2ww

Started nausea 3dp5dt it can`t be this early POAS 5dp5dt readable BFP! Wow

7dp5dt POAS show dark test line (never had such a strong positive)

Worried about risk of multiples

11dp5dt 1st beta at 382.8 13dp5dt 2nd beta at 850

Viability scan booked Nov 11th (6wk 4days)

Viability scan at 6w and 8w are both fine. Now graduated to OB.

NT scan in December 2015: all is good

Anotomy scan in Feb. 2015

 

 

 

 


#4 eyedoc

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:58 PM

Welcome! I can sympathize as we have multiple issues with our fertility also. I have PCOS and was recently diagnosed as celiac which can complicate things also. And we are also dealing with male factor. It can all feel really hopeless at times but I think you will find lots of support here!
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Me - 33, PCOS
DH - 38, Male factor

April 2012 - Started TTC #1
2013 - 2014 - Several medicated cycles and 3 IUI - all BFN

November/December 2014 - IVF #1
Transfer of 1 day 5 embryo, 3 embryos frozen - BFP th_abfp.gif
pPROM @ 35 weeks and our baby babygirl.gif made her early appearance on July 26, 2015

 

July 2015 - Phone consultation with clinic to look at doing a FET towards the end of the year

August 2015 - Natural BFP??  th_abfp.gif  We are in shock!  Ultrasound at clinic confirms I was already 9 weeks pregnant and had NO IDEA!

Due date for baby B #2 - March 27, 2017


#5 CrisBelieve

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:59 PM

Hello!  I can relate to so much of your story.  My DH and I have almost exactly the same issues as you do.  My DH also has azoospermia.  We had to do a testicular biopsy last summer and thankfully, there was normal spermatogenisis but he has a blockage somewhere.   I also discovered that I have endometriosis through my initial testing with my fertility clinic.  I had to have a lap done to drain the 6cm endometrioma that had formed on my left ovary.  So our stories are so similar indeed!  When will your DH be doing the TESA?  Did they give you guys some good odds that they would find sperm?

 

I will be embarking on IVF #3 in June/July.  I see that you will be cycling around that time as well.  Feel free to come join us over on the June/July IVF thread as well!  I wish you and your DH the best of luck.  ajigl.gif


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More details on our infertility journey in 'About Me' page

 

Me: 40, DH: 43

TTC for many years - severe male factor - Obstructive Azoospermia

 

Our 7th cycle brought us the miracles we were looking for.  Our twin girls were born in 2017!  heart.gif heart.gif

 

Trying for baby #3

 

Fresh transfer in Feb 2019 = BFN

FET - June 2019

June 25 - transferred one day 6 grade 2 expanded blast

June 29 - POAS...very very faint line!  

July 4 - beta @ 9dpt = 95, beta @ 11dpt = 311, beta @ 13dpt = 646

July 25 - viability scan @ exactly 7 weeks - one baby with heartbeat of 147!  So very thankful.

August 8 - 9 week ultrasound - baby moving around with heartbeat of 170!

August 30 - 12 week NT scan - all looks well with the babe, heartbeat of 155

October 24 - anatomy scan...everything looks great and we are having a babyboy.gif !  So happy!

 


#6 oceanbluesngreens

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:14 PM

Ladies!!! I feel so good about finding you! Thanks so much for your support and positivity! It's great to meet you. Thanks for introducing yourselves and sharing your stories. It feels so good to connect with other women who understand what DH and I are going through.... Ahh, what a breath of fresh air.yahoo.gif


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<p><strong>Me</strong>: <strike>31</strike> <strike>32</strike> <strike>33</strike> 34 TTC for 3 1/2 years<em><strong>DOR/Endometriosis; AMH: 6  /  FSH: 11  /  AFC: 8; Hypo-thyroidism </strong></em>(0.05 1x daily L.thyroxine)</p><p>Visually impaired (no peripheral vision in right field of both eyes); no driver's license<strong>DH:</strong> <strike>35</strike> <strike>36</strike> <strike>37</strike> 38 </p><p>Low sperm count (non-obstructive and obstructive Azoospermia); cause unknown and unexplained.<strong><em>July 2011</em></strong> - Started TTC... referred to several different specialists between DH and I over the past 3 years... <strong><em>March 2014</em> </strong>- <b> </b>Lap surgery performed and removed endometriosis growing on bladder and endometrioma cyst in L. ovary. Biopsy revealed non-cancerous Stage 3 endometriosis.</p><div><strong><em>April 2014</em></strong> - IVF is our only option due to my endometriosis and needing ICSI for DH's swimmers. Began CM with Hannam Fertility Centre in Toronto (Dr. Robb).</div><p><em> </em></p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.0</u> </strong>- <em><strong>May/June 2014</strong></em> (postponed due to polyp)</p><p>- <em><strong>June 6/14</strong></em> - Polypectomy performed</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.1</u> </strong>- <em><strong>June/July 2014</strong></em> (postponed again due to AF arriving after only 14 day cycle and still need to consult with OB at Mt. Sinai re: concerns over medication ASA and IVF)</p><p><strong><em>July 2014</em> </strong>- July consult with ob-gyn at High Risk Pregnancy Group re: ASA requested to change to Lovenox instead of ASA during IVF cycle.  Begin Lovenox injection on July 25, 1x daily with BCP.</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.2</u></strong> - <em><strong>August/September 2014</strong></em>: OCP - controlled Antagonist Cycle </p><p><em><strong>July 25/14</strong></em> - begin Marvelon BCP until August 16<em><strong>August 23/14</strong></em> - begin Gonal F 250 and Menopur 75</p><p>Day 8 of stims - Cycle at risk for being cancelled. Stimulated longer, 12 days total, 3 follicles. <em><strong>September 4/14</strong></em> - ER. Only two eggs retrieved.</p><p>One fertilized with DH's fresh sperm with ICSI.<em><strong>September 7/14</strong></em> - ET. One 6-10 cell embryo transferred. Nothing to freeze. Begin Progesterone suppositories 3x daily and Estrace 2x daily... 3 terrible migraines w/ nausea during 2ww.</p><p><em><strong>September 18/14</strong></em> - Celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary with a<img src="<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ivf.ca/forums...ult/th_abfp.gif'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='%27'>'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a>"</a> title=":th_abfp:" alt="th_abfp.gif">  squinter on FRER!!! </p><p><em><strong>September 22/14</strong></em> - <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfn.gif"</a></a> title=":th_abfn:" alt="th_abfn.gif">  at beta <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png"</a></a> title=":(" alt="sad.png">...completely devastated.</p><p><em><strong>October 6/14</strong></em> - WTF appointment...egg quality is good, but quantity is diminished... 10-15% chance of success with MOE if we cycle again. Shocked... Feeling overwhelmed and exhausted... considering donor eggs and adoption...</p><p><em><strong>November 4/14</strong></em> - WTF meeting again with RE at HFC to further discuss options... Decided to move on to donor eggs...</p><p>Referred to CReATe Fertility Centre in Toronto (for donor egg cycle). Waiting for consultation with Dr. Librach on December 23/14.</p><p><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>December 23/14</strong> - Changed clinics - Consultation with Dr. Librach at new clinic (CReATe). He is recommending we try IVF #2 with a new plan. Right ovary looks really good. Underwent all workup u/s and b/w again. Waiting for test results (end of January 2015).      </span> All test results good. No auto-immune diseases. Starting IVF #2 March 2015. Fresh cycle, new protocol (Long Lupron), started Lupron shots Feb 17/15. Started stims Mar. 1/15 (Bravelle & Menopur). Started Fragmin shots on stim day 3. Egg retrieval Mar. 14/15, 9 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, 3 fertilized with ICSI, planning day 3 transfer Mar. 17/15.

#7 oceanbluesngreens

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:26 PM

Christine, 

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend the UR appointment with my DH last week, but from what he told me, I know that he has scheduled his TESA surgery for July 15th.  Apparently odds are 50%-70% that UR will find sperm and 20-30% odds that IVF with ICSI will work. UR said that he may find sperm and could freeze them, but said that they may not survive once thawed... So he's suggesting that my RE time my cycle so that we can do the ICSI on the same day as DH's surgery (July 15th).  UR also suggested DH bank his sperm for 4 or 5 times before July 15th to see what we are working with.  We've just done our cycle monitoring last month and haven't yet had our IVF clinic/meeting with our RE to discuss these results and our plan of action for moving forward, so we still have a lot to learn. Our IVF clinic appointment is next week, on May 12th. My biggest question is how he is going to time my cycle so that I ovulate on the same day as DH's surgery!?!   I am hoping RE can just freeze my eggs... in June and July... it seems a lot easier than trying to time my cycle to the day of his TESA.   

 

Thanks....best of luck to you as well! Yes, someone else mentioned me joining the June/July cycling board so I will definitely do this! 


<p><strong>Me</strong>: <strike>31</strike> <strike>32</strike> <strike>33</strike> 34 TTC for 3 1/2 years<em><strong>DOR/Endometriosis; AMH: 6  /  FSH: 11  /  AFC: 8; Hypo-thyroidism </strong></em>(0.05 1x daily L.thyroxine)</p><p>Visually impaired (no peripheral vision in right field of both eyes); no driver's license<strong>DH:</strong> <strike>35</strike> <strike>36</strike> <strike>37</strike> 38 </p><p>Low sperm count (non-obstructive and obstructive Azoospermia); cause unknown and unexplained.<strong><em>July 2011</em></strong> - Started TTC... referred to several different specialists between DH and I over the past 3 years... <strong><em>March 2014</em> </strong>- <b> </b>Lap surgery performed and removed endometriosis growing on bladder and endometrioma cyst in L. ovary. Biopsy revealed non-cancerous Stage 3 endometriosis.</p><div><strong><em>April 2014</em></strong> - IVF is our only option due to my endometriosis and needing ICSI for DH's swimmers. Began CM with Hannam Fertility Centre in Toronto (Dr. Robb).</div><p><em> </em></p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.0</u> </strong>- <em><strong>May/June 2014</strong></em> (postponed due to polyp)</p><p>- <em><strong>June 6/14</strong></em> - Polypectomy performed</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.1</u> </strong>- <em><strong>June/July 2014</strong></em> (postponed again due to AF arriving after only 14 day cycle and still need to consult with OB at Mt. Sinai re: concerns over medication ASA and IVF)</p><p><strong><em>July 2014</em> </strong>- July consult with ob-gyn at High Risk Pregnancy Group re: ASA requested to change to Lovenox instead of ASA during IVF cycle.  Begin Lovenox injection on July 25, 1x daily with BCP.</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.2</u></strong> - <em><strong>August/September 2014</strong></em>: OCP - controlled Antagonist Cycle </p><p><em><strong>July 25/14</strong></em> - begin Marvelon BCP until August 16<em><strong>August 23/14</strong></em> - begin Gonal F 250 and Menopur 75</p><p>Day 8 of stims - Cycle at risk for being cancelled. Stimulated longer, 12 days total, 3 follicles. <em><strong>September 4/14</strong></em> - ER. Only two eggs retrieved.</p><p>One fertilized with DH's fresh sperm with ICSI.<em><strong>September 7/14</strong></em> - ET. One 6-10 cell embryo transferred. Nothing to freeze. Begin Progesterone suppositories 3x daily and Estrace 2x daily... 3 terrible migraines w/ nausea during 2ww.</p><p><em><strong>September 18/14</strong></em> - Celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary with a<img src="<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ivf.ca/forums...ult/th_abfp.gif'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='%27'>'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a>"</a> title=":th_abfp:" alt="th_abfp.gif">  squinter on FRER!!! </p><p><em><strong>September 22/14</strong></em> - <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfn.gif"</a></a> title=":th_abfn:" alt="th_abfn.gif">  at beta <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png"</a></a> title=":(" alt="sad.png">...completely devastated.</p><p><em><strong>October 6/14</strong></em> - WTF appointment...egg quality is good, but quantity is diminished... 10-15% chance of success with MOE if we cycle again. Shocked... Feeling overwhelmed and exhausted... considering donor eggs and adoption...</p><p><em><strong>November 4/14</strong></em> - WTF meeting again with RE at HFC to further discuss options... Decided to move on to donor eggs...</p><p>Referred to CReATe Fertility Centre in Toronto (for donor egg cycle). Waiting for consultation with Dr. Librach on December 23/14.</p><p><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>December 23/14</strong> - Changed clinics - Consultation with Dr. Librach at new clinic (CReATe). He is recommending we try IVF #2 with a new plan. Right ovary looks really good. Underwent all workup u/s and b/w again. Waiting for test results (end of January 2015).      </span> All test results good. No auto-immune diseases. Starting IVF #2 March 2015. Fresh cycle, new protocol (Long Lupron), started Lupron shots Feb 17/15. Started stims Mar. 1/15 (Bravelle & Menopur). Started Fragmin shots on stim day 3. Egg retrieval Mar. 14/15, 9 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, 3 fertilized with ICSI, planning day 3 transfer Mar. 17/15.

#8 CrisBelieve

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:00 AM

Those are good odds I'd say for TESA success!  When we did the biopsy last year, we froze the sperm that was found and used it for our September IVF cycle.  Unortunately, we lost alot of them when they thawed the sample and the motility was extremely poor.  The lab said the sperm that were alive were barely twitching.  :(  For our second cycle, our RE wanted us to do the TESA on the same day as my retrieval so that we would use fresh sperm in the hopes that it would be better quality.  The UR came over to the clinic that morning and did the aspiration right then an there.  They gave my DH propofol so he didn't feel anything and he was knocked out.  So it wasn't surgery.  Would this be an option for you guys as well?  Not sure how they would manipulate your cycle to revolve around a booked surgery date in the hospital!  That is a good question to ask.  In our sitaution, the UR was the one on call and he came in to do the procedure when I was ready for my retrieval.

 

My clinic believes that using fresh testicular sperm is better than using frozen.  Good luck with your appt next week.  Keep me posted on how it goes!


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More details on our infertility journey in 'About Me' page

 

Me: 40, DH: 43

TTC for many years - severe male factor - Obstructive Azoospermia

 

Our 7th cycle brought us the miracles we were looking for.  Our twin girls were born in 2017!  heart.gif heart.gif

 

Trying for baby #3

 

Fresh transfer in Feb 2019 = BFN

FET - June 2019

June 25 - transferred one day 6 grade 2 expanded blast

June 29 - POAS...very very faint line!  

July 4 - beta @ 9dpt = 95, beta @ 11dpt = 311, beta @ 13dpt = 646

July 25 - viability scan @ exactly 7 weeks - one baby with heartbeat of 147!  So very thankful.

August 8 - 9 week ultrasound - baby moving around with heartbeat of 170!

August 30 - 12 week NT scan - all looks well with the babe, heartbeat of 155

October 24 - anatomy scan...everything looks great and we are having a babyboy.gif !  So happy!

 


#9 ollie2013

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 04:23 PM

there are many days for me as well where i just feel like life keeps kicking me down.. i think i am going to look into that book you mentioned...i just dont have much positivity in me these days

 

welcome to the site ocean, there are so many amazing women on here and sharing our stories, pain and joy makes it easier somehow..


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me 26, dh 32

ttc for almost 3 years

one ectopic pregnancy, lost one tube- 2013

one miscarriage- 2014

poor egg quality, unstable hormone levels. AMH dropped from 4 to 1.5 in 4 months.. had it retested and came back at 1.4

RE predicts that i will go through menopause around age 30..27 or 28. Suggests one round  of ivf and then it is time to move onto another option.

1st ivf booked to begin in september

Sept 17- B/w and U/S, Starting Stimulation

Clinic Error and IVF cycle cancelled in October- took some time to think about my options

 

November- Moving onto donor eggs-

donor #1 selected through little miracles

Dec 29- Lupron Injection

Jan 22- Estrace Started

Estimated Retrieval day for donor is Feb 6. 5 days into the cycle, donor was found to have cocaine and marijuana in her bloodstream- cycle cancelled.. heartbroken and very disappointed

Donor egg cycle round 2 - let's hope things go well this time!

Donor #2 selected... Retrieval in April!


#10 BourneErin

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 05:34 PM

Welcome Ocean! I can relate to the journey and also have felt that the beginning was harder on my relationship. We have also been TTC for 3 years and the 2nd year when we started our treatments put a lot of stress on our relationship and we also went to counselling to help. This site has been great for me to be able to talk to women going through the same things and who have all gone through similar emotional journeys. Good Luck with everything in July! 


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#11 oceanbluesngreens

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 07:04 PM

Those are good odds I'd say for TESA success!  When we did the biopsy last year, we froze the sperm that was found and used it for our September IVF cycle.  Unortunately, we lost alot of them when they thawed the sample and the motility was extremely poor.  The lab said the sperm that were alive were barely twitching.  sad.png  For our second cycle, our RE wanted us to do the TESA on the same day as my retrieval so that we would use fresh sperm in the hopes that it would be better quality.  The UR came over to the clinic that morning and did the aspiration right then an there.  They gave my DH propofol so he didn't feel anything and he was knocked out.  So it wasn't surgery.  Would this be an option for you guys as well?  Not sure how they would manipulate your cycle to revolve around a booked surgery date in the hospital!  That is a good question to ask.  In our sitaution, the UR was the one on call and he came in to do the procedure when I was ready for my retrieval.

 

My clinic believes that using fresh testicular sperm is better than using frozen.  Good luck with your appt next week.  Keep me posted on how it goes!

 

Christine, your situation sounds so similar to mine! I appreciate you sharing your experience. Now that I've read about yours, I am feeling pretty confused about what our options are... I'm still getting used to all the lingo and trying to understand the scientific aspects of everything involved. I will keep your thoughts in mind when I see our RE for our IVF clinic appointment next week. Thanks for your input! Our clinic also believes that using fresh sperm is the best method.  

 

Christine, BourneErin and Ollie - Thanks for the good luck vibes! 

 

Ollie - I highly recommend it. I purchased the book from Amazon for very cheap. 

 

http://www.amazon.ca...B6YW3HWK55XCGG2


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<p><strong>Me</strong>: <strike>31</strike> <strike>32</strike> <strike>33</strike> 34 TTC for 3 1/2 years<em><strong>DOR/Endometriosis; AMH: 6  /  FSH: 11  /  AFC: 8; Hypo-thyroidism </strong></em>(0.05 1x daily L.thyroxine)</p><p>Visually impaired (no peripheral vision in right field of both eyes); no driver's license<strong>DH:</strong> <strike>35</strike> <strike>36</strike> <strike>37</strike> 38 </p><p>Low sperm count (non-obstructive and obstructive Azoospermia); cause unknown and unexplained.<strong><em>July 2011</em></strong> - Started TTC... referred to several different specialists between DH and I over the past 3 years... <strong><em>March 2014</em> </strong>- <b> </b>Lap surgery performed and removed endometriosis growing on bladder and endometrioma cyst in L. ovary. Biopsy revealed non-cancerous Stage 3 endometriosis.</p><div><strong><em>April 2014</em></strong> - IVF is our only option due to my endometriosis and needing ICSI for DH's swimmers. Began CM with Hannam Fertility Centre in Toronto (Dr. Robb).</div><p><em> </em></p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.0</u> </strong>- <em><strong>May/June 2014</strong></em> (postponed due to polyp)</p><p>- <em><strong>June 6/14</strong></em> - Polypectomy performed</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.1</u> </strong>- <em><strong>June/July 2014</strong></em> (postponed again due to AF arriving after only 14 day cycle and still need to consult with OB at Mt. Sinai re: concerns over medication ASA and IVF)</p><p><strong><em>July 2014</em> </strong>- July consult with ob-gyn at High Risk Pregnancy Group re: ASA requested to change to Lovenox instead of ASA during IVF cycle.  Begin Lovenox injection on July 25, 1x daily with BCP.</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>IVF # 1.2</u></strong> - <em><strong>August/September 2014</strong></em>: OCP - controlled Antagonist Cycle </p><p><em><strong>July 25/14</strong></em> - begin Marvelon BCP until August 16<em><strong>August 23/14</strong></em> - begin Gonal F 250 and Menopur 75</p><p>Day 8 of stims - Cycle at risk for being cancelled. Stimulated longer, 12 days total, 3 follicles. <em><strong>September 4/14</strong></em> - ER. Only two eggs retrieved.</p><p>One fertilized with DH's fresh sperm with ICSI.<em><strong>September 7/14</strong></em> - ET. One 6-10 cell embryo transferred. Nothing to freeze. Begin Progesterone suppositories 3x daily and Estrace 2x daily... 3 terrible migraines w/ nausea during 2ww.</p><p><em><strong>September 18/14</strong></em> - Celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary with a<img src="<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ivf.ca/forums...ult/th_abfp.gif'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='%27'>'>https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfp.gif</a>"</a> title=":th_abfp:" alt="th_abfp.gif">  squinter on FRER!!! </p><p><em><strong>September 22/14</strong></em> - <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/th_abfn.gif"</a></a> title=":th_abfn:" alt="th_abfn.gif">  at beta <img <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='href=%27src=%27'>href='src='>src="https://ivf.ca/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png"</a></a> title=":(" alt="sad.png">...completely devastated.</p><p><em><strong>October 6/14</strong></em> - WTF appointment...egg quality is good, but quantity is diminished... 10-15% chance of success with MOE if we cycle again. Shocked... Feeling overwhelmed and exhausted... considering donor eggs and adoption...</p><p><em><strong>November 4/14</strong></em> - WTF meeting again with RE at HFC to further discuss options... Decided to move on to donor eggs...</p><p>Referred to CReATe Fertility Centre in Toronto (for donor egg cycle). Waiting for consultation with Dr. Librach on December 23/14.</p><p><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>December 23/14</strong> - Changed clinics - Consultation with Dr. Librach at new clinic (CReATe). He is recommending we try IVF #2 with a new plan. Right ovary looks really good. Underwent all workup u/s and b/w again. Waiting for test results (end of January 2015).      </span> All test results good. No auto-immune diseases. Starting IVF #2 March 2015. Fresh cycle, new protocol (Long Lupron), started Lupron shots Feb 17/15. Started stims Mar. 1/15 (Bravelle & Menopur). Started Fragmin shots on stim day 3. Egg retrieval Mar. 14/15, 9 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, 3 fertilized with ICSI, planning day 3 transfer Mar. 17/15.

#12 ollie2013

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:55 PM

i am going to order the book tonight.. you inspired me to try to change my thinking!

 

i have always been a glass half empty type of person... infertility has just emphasized it  i guess


me 26, dh 32

ttc for almost 3 years

one ectopic pregnancy, lost one tube- 2013

one miscarriage- 2014

poor egg quality, unstable hormone levels. AMH dropped from 4 to 1.5 in 4 months.. had it retested and came back at 1.4

RE predicts that i will go through menopause around age 30..27 or 28. Suggests one round  of ivf and then it is time to move onto another option.

1st ivf booked to begin in september

Sept 17- B/w and U/S, Starting Stimulation

Clinic Error and IVF cycle cancelled in October- took some time to think about my options

 

November- Moving onto donor eggs-

donor #1 selected through little miracles

Dec 29- Lupron Injection

Jan 22- Estrace Started

Estimated Retrieval day for donor is Feb 6. 5 days into the cycle, donor was found to have cocaine and marijuana in her bloodstream- cycle cancelled.. heartbroken and very disappointed

Donor egg cycle round 2 - let's hope things go well this time!

Donor #2 selected... Retrieval in April!






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