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#1 Jellybean2013

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

Hi I have a lot of weight to lose and am almost 39.  I joined weight watchers after thanksgiving and have lost 15 pounds without even starting to exercise. I think being on metformin this time may be helping but not sure.

 

Anyway according to online calculators my BMI is 41.  As I mentioned I have a lot to lose. Starting to get worried I may not be able to have kids because I waited too long to lose weight.

 

anyone else out there have success on WW?  At what BMI should I contact the fertility clinic to start the process? We can self refer in my area.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:07 PM

I am assuming you have never been to see a fertility specialist. I would not wait, as it can take several months to get your first appointment, and the doctor will want to run a number of tests. Some of the tests need to be completed at a specific time during your cycle, so it may take a cycle or two before they can be completed.

 

As for weight, I never use the BMI as it is inaccurate. If you have larger denser bones or more muscle, then it skews the results. It is better to go by body fat percentage. For example, my husband at one time was 5% body fat but was considered obese by the BMI.

 

Keep eating healthy and exercising while waiting for appointments.


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#3 luv2cake

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:49 PM

My clinic did not have a set BMI but I did do weight watchers before my last cycle. Started Feb 2013 cycled in October. Was 55lbs down. There is a lot of literature out there on low carb or going gluten free before cycling. I felt so much better this last cycle. My body and mind just felt right. Have to say I think doing WW is why I got my positive. I'm almost 11 weeks!!
Good luck! Take it one week at a time. And you can do it!!!
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#4 PickleS

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:08 PM

I can't speak for myself --- but I will speak for my mom...

 

She had a really hard time conceiving both my brother and I because of her weight - she joined weight watchers and lost quite a bit (not sure exactly how much) but she was able to lose enough wait to balance her hormones and conceive naturally!!!

She tried for 3-4 years prior to that....

 

I also know a few other people that have had huge success w/ weight watchers, and personally I think it's one of the best ways to lose weight.. The diets are great - but it's a system that not only helps you lose weight, but teaches you how to eat so you can maintain it...

 

It's not your typical "magic" system - which I think is better for you, and healthier!! :)

 

Good luck to you!!


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8/9 - Start Suprefact   8/20 - Initial U/S shows thin lining & lots of follicles (?),High risk OHSS

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9/8 - Decided to Freeze! (5) - Day 5 blasts in the freezer for future FET !!

FET #1

10/9 - Natural Cycle, CANCELLED (11/18) (Lining to thin, no sign of ovulation)

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#5 Heregoesnothing

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 08:17 PM

pickles, what do you mean when you say lose weight and balance out her hormones?  (sorry if it's a dumb question!)


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:39 PM

I joined weight watchers and lost a lot of weight prior to doing IVF. If you follow the program it can work. Even if you don't have your weight down to your goal, dropping some can help. At the very least it will mean a healthier pregnacy with a reduced risk of gestational diabetes and preeclampsia.
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#7 Red Wine

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:47 PM

pickles, what do you mean when you say lose weight and balance out her hormones?  (sorry if it's a dumb question!)

There is evidence to suggest that if you are overweight that it can disrupt the hormones in a lady's body.  Mainly, too much fat stores produce estrogen and it can affect your hormones.  If a lady is overweight or obese it can help if she loses 10% of her weight and it can help sort out her hormones and make her have regular periods again (if that is the problem) and possibly help with conception.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:57 AM

Thx red wine!  I had no idea!  Gonna read into that a little more...


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#9 Jellybean2013

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 09:19 AM

Thanks ladies. I did see a obgyn n my progesterone is low but estrogen normal. Hopefully losing weight will help.
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Posted 28 December 2013 - 08:13 AM

Heregoesnothing - .. My mom and I have hormone imbalances... (not always the right amount of things when there should be) which led to scattered periods, skin issues and I'm sure other stuff...

 

When my mom was having trouble conceiving - at the time her DR related the problem to her hormone imbalances... When she lost her weight, her hormones went closer to what 'normal' is.. and she was able to conceive naturally...

 

She is also PCOS, and I've hear that this has an effect on a women's insulin values - so by eating properly, and exercising you can regulate it --- increasing the chance of conceiving...


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ME - 28 (Mild PCOS, Relative Tubal - Diagnosed Unknown)

DH - 36

 

2009 - Natural BFP, Ectopic: Right Tube

2010 - Clomid BFP, Ectopic: Right Tube - Surgery to Remove mellow.png

2011 - Started back on Clomid off/on for 3/mth intervals

2012 - Referral to infertility clinic, Initial Consultation

2013 - IVF #1

8/9 - Start Suprefact   8/20 - Initial U/S shows thin lining & lots of follicles (?),High risk OHSS

9/3 - ER, expected 25 eggs but only had 12... 9 Fertilized.

9/8 - Decided to Freeze! (5) - Day 5 blasts in the freezer for future FET !!

FET #1

10/9 - Natural Cycle, CANCELLED (11/18) (Lining to thin, no sign of ovulation)

12/9 - Medicated Cycle, CANCELLED - Cyst on right ovary

12/9 - Start BCP and hope cyst disappears


#11 Kitty Holland

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 09:34 AM

I wouldn't wait due to your age. You don't want to take care of the weight issue only to find you've waited too long. I think an RE could set up a program or moniter you so that you are on a path to fertility instead of waiting until the weight issue is tackled. Who knows, maybe the RE would have other advice as well.


Me - 38 no fertility issues (except age now)

He 38  - cancer survivor / frozen sperm Sept. 2010 - U/S, blood

Sept. 2010 - normal

Oct. 2010 - given choice of IUI or IVF. Choose to try IVF straight off.

Oct. 2010 - put on waitlist for IVF - whatever that means!waiting to get the letter for start date - probably November/December 2010 

IVF #1 Jan 2011!!! Short/Light antagonist protocol

Jan. 2 - start PuregonJan. 6 - start Orgalutron

Jan. 7 - 1st Ultrasound: R: 1 11mm, 1 9 mm, other smaller / L: many smaller folls. biggest was 8

Jan. 11 - F/U US: R: 5 follies seen - biggest 17 mm, others 11-15 mm / L: 5 follies - biggest 13 mm, others 9-11 mm

Jan. 13 - 2nd F/U US R: 5 big follies 21 mm, others 14-16 some smaller / L: 5 follies biggest 16 mm, others 13-16 / lining at 11 mm

Jan. 15 - ER ---I don't know how many follies were aspirated, but we got 9 eggs!

Jan. 18 - 3 day transfer --- total of 4 embies (Albert, Barny, Charlie, and Dirk)/ one 8 cell transferred / two 8 cell and one 7 cell frosties

Feb. 2 - Official POAS Day (also Groundhog's Day though we don't have that holiday here) BFP!!! Really can't believe it! In shock! what a wait! No blood test to confirm BFP.

March 4 - FIRST US - wiggly bean measuring 9w1d (2 days ahead) with a strong heartbeat. Released from the RE! So happy!! 

Oct. 6 2011 - DD born healthy at 40 weeks via unplanned Csection

 

FET #1 May 2013 natural protocal

May 7 - CD12 lining check - 6mm

May 9 - CD 14 lining check - still 6 mm

May 11 -CD16 lining check - 6 GRRRRR!

May 14 - CD19 lining check - 8.4 and follicle is 16 - trigger Pregnyl 5000 IUMay 20 - transfer day!!

BFN

FET#2 August 2013 natural protocal (lining much better - it was 8.4 on CD13) --- BFN chemical

FET #3 November 2013 natural protocal BFN

 

IVF #2 January/Feb. 2014 - start meds late Jan. with transfer mid-Feb.

Jan. 28 - CD1

Jan. 29 - Start stims. GonalF 150

Feb. 2 - add Citroine??

Feb. 4 - First U/S R: 16,13,11 and a couple smaller L: hard to visualize, but biggest looked like 13. Lining at 10mm

Feb. 7 - 2nd U/S R: 9/10 follies. A couple at 17-16 and others smaller. L: hard to visualize biggest about 16. Lining triple striped at 10mm

Feb. 8 - trigger 10,000 PregnylFeb. 10 Retrieval (sedated this time!--- got 9 eggs same as last time!,)

Feb. 13 - 6 embies made it to day 3 (morula, 12, 10, 7, 7, 5)

Feb. 13 Day 3 transfer of 2 embies (12 cell and 10 cell)  

Feb 14: Day 4 freeze of 4 embies

Feb. 21: HPT BFP!! 8dp3dt th_abfp.gif yahoo.gif

Feb 22: BFP on digital (just to confirm)

Feb. 28: Call in HPT Result

March 28: 1st Ultrasound (8w4d)


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:51 PM

Congrats on your weight loss!

 

Keep at it and also get started with the clinic. Or even give a call and ask if there are weight restrictions/concerns. Don't hope you will be smaller and then things will proceed. We are all different shapes and sizes, and one person's weight at a certain size may be obese and for others with natural body frame, height, family history, etc. they could never be expected to lose the same amount.

 

Some clinics assess lifestyle and family history as much as what the scale or fat-pinching tests say.

 

You just never know what the issues are (some never know) but you definitely want to start getting advice, tests, feedback, etc. I am an average-sized, fit person who could not conceive. My friends that feel they are overweight (some obese) got pregnant the first time they tried.  Everyone's struggle and scenarios are different. While being as healthy as possible in every way is optimum when wanting to get pregnant, I'd hate for you to sit on a dream hoping that in time you'll be a certain weight and then start looking into clinic wait times and tests.

 

Wishing you all the best. It's a tough journey but believe in yourself.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:35 PM

Getting tested to see if you're ovulating would be a great start. Keep at it with the WW.  For me going low carb is a big winner in weight loss - and it's fast acting too, especially if your weakness initially is bread.

 

If you're cutting carbs, look up MIM (Muffin in a minute) - it's flax and egg based, you make it quickly, and it is a good substitute for bread as a daily treat.

 

Whatever inspires you to lose is great.  Support it with Myfitnesspal.com to track your eating, if you like doing that - there are a lot of great community support forums on that.

 

Good luck!


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#14 Jellybean2013

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 05:28 PM

Thank you for all the words of encouragement and advice! I'm down 20 pounds now doing weight watchers. I had success in the past with low carb so am thinking of doing a lower carb WW to sped things up.  I'm on metformin which has regulated my cycles. I'm assuming I'm ovulating but haven't talked to my doctor about it. My doctor is not what I would call a very attentive doctor.  I tried using ovulation strips but have been told that they may not be effective for someone like me with PCOS.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:28 PM

That is a great weight loss Jellybean. Make sure you aren't dropping to quickly and when you start cycling you should be aiming to maintain, not drop more. Excess weight impacts fertility, but so can a rapid drop in weight.
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Posted 27 January 2014 - 09:04 PM

Oh no not fast at all lol.  Maybe on average 1 pound a week. 


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 09:43 PM

A pound a week is perfect. It is a realistic rate of weight loss that can be maintained, and it is not so fast that your body over reacts to it. To be dropping weight when you are dealing with PCOS is not easy. You should be very proud of yourself.

You are probably close to a 10% loss by now. It is amazing what a difference even that much can make on your health and your energy levels. There 10% mark was where I really started to notice the difference. I also found that as the weight came off exercise was much easier.
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:59 AM

Yaay Jellybean! Also thanks for the low carb recipe - I am going to try it!


Me - 38 no fertility issues (except age now)

He 38  - cancer survivor / frozen sperm Sept. 2010 - U/S, blood

Sept. 2010 - normal

Oct. 2010 - given choice of IUI or IVF. Choose to try IVF straight off.

Oct. 2010 - put on waitlist for IVF - whatever that means!waiting to get the letter for start date - probably November/December 2010 

IVF #1 Jan 2011!!! Short/Light antagonist protocol

Jan. 2 - start PuregonJan. 6 - start Orgalutron

Jan. 7 - 1st Ultrasound: R: 1 11mm, 1 9 mm, other smaller / L: many smaller folls. biggest was 8

Jan. 11 - F/U US: R: 5 follies seen - biggest 17 mm, others 11-15 mm / L: 5 follies - biggest 13 mm, others 9-11 mm

Jan. 13 - 2nd F/U US R: 5 big follies 21 mm, others 14-16 some smaller / L: 5 follies biggest 16 mm, others 13-16 / lining at 11 mm

Jan. 15 - ER ---I don't know how many follies were aspirated, but we got 9 eggs!

Jan. 18 - 3 day transfer --- total of 4 embies (Albert, Barny, Charlie, and Dirk)/ one 8 cell transferred / two 8 cell and one 7 cell frosties

Feb. 2 - Official POAS Day (also Groundhog's Day though we don't have that holiday here) BFP!!! Really can't believe it! In shock! what a wait! No blood test to confirm BFP.

March 4 - FIRST US - wiggly bean measuring 9w1d (2 days ahead) with a strong heartbeat. Released from the RE! So happy!! 

Oct. 6 2011 - DD born healthy at 40 weeks via unplanned Csection

 

FET #1 May 2013 natural protocal

May 7 - CD12 lining check - 6mm

May 9 - CD 14 lining check - still 6 mm

May 11 -CD16 lining check - 6 GRRRRR!

May 14 - CD19 lining check - 8.4 and follicle is 16 - trigger Pregnyl 5000 IUMay 20 - transfer day!!

BFN

FET#2 August 2013 natural protocal (lining much better - it was 8.4 on CD13) --- BFN chemical

FET #3 November 2013 natural protocal BFN

 

IVF #2 January/Feb. 2014 - start meds late Jan. with transfer mid-Feb.

Jan. 28 - CD1

Jan. 29 - Start stims. GonalF 150

Feb. 2 - add Citroine??

Feb. 4 - First U/S R: 16,13,11 and a couple smaller L: hard to visualize, but biggest looked like 13. Lining at 10mm

Feb. 7 - 2nd U/S R: 9/10 follies. A couple at 17-16 and others smaller. L: hard to visualize biggest about 16. Lining triple striped at 10mm

Feb. 8 - trigger 10,000 PregnylFeb. 10 Retrieval (sedated this time!--- got 9 eggs same as last time!,)

Feb. 13 - 6 embies made it to day 3 (morula, 12, 10, 7, 7, 5)

Feb. 13 Day 3 transfer of 2 embies (12 cell and 10 cell)  

Feb 14: Day 4 freeze of 4 embies

Feb. 21: HPT BFP!! 8dp3dt th_abfp.gif yahoo.gif

Feb 22: BFP on digital (just to confirm)

Feb. 28: Call in HPT Result

March 28: 1st Ultrasound (8w4d)


#19 Jellybean2013

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:51 PM

You guys are great! Thanks for the kind words

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 09:15 PM

Hooray for everyone and their weight loss success stories. Keep it up!

I also just joined weight watchers with the goal of losing 15 lbs. I did WW about 5 years ago and it worked really well. But, I have slowly put that weight back on. I am going to try my best to keep it off this time! My husband just had the embolization procedure for his varicocele. We have to wait 3 months to see if it helped his counts - I'm going to use this waiting time to try and reach my weight loss goal.

I also have PCOS so I am anticipating that it will take me longer to lose the weight than the last time I did WW!

Me - 33, PCOS
DH - 38, Male factor

April 2012 - Started TTC #1
2013 - 2014 - Several medicated cycles and 3 IUI - all BFN

November/December 2014 - IVF #1
Transfer of 1 day 5 embryo, 3 embryos frozen - BFP th_abfp.gif
pPROM @ 35 weeks and our baby babygirl.gif made her early appearance on July 26, 2015

 

July 2015 - Phone consultation with clinic to look at doing a FET towards the end of the year

August 2015 - Natural BFP??  th_abfp.gif  We are in shock!  Ultrasound at clinic confirms I was already 9 weeks pregnant and had NO IDEA!

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#21 Vanislandgirl

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 10:02 PM

Hi all, I need to loose weight before we do ivf. It is not mandatory but strongly encouraged by my re to do this to help our chances of success of pregnancy and also a healthjersey pregnant too. Has anyone done the beach body 21st day fix? Thinking of doing that program as might enable to get hubby to do it too go going paleo again.