How many beta's after BFP? - Ottawa Fertility Centre - IVF.ca Forums

Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

How many beta's after BFP?

BFP HCGFOLLOWUP

  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 nnks

nnks
  • Just Hatched
  • 7 posts
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:Ottawa Fertility Clinic

Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

Hello ladies! 

 

I, finally, got my BFP blood test on Oct 25. The OFC scheduled me for an U/S and next appt on Nov 20 (at about 7 1/2 weeks).. but not follow-up blood tests to monitor HCG levels...

 

I'm wondering if you've had this experience? Shouldn't there be some sort of monitoring of the rising HCG levels in the form of follow-up blood tests before the initial ultrasound? if they are rising quickly enough, if they're in the normal range, etc, etc.......

 

I'd really love to hear your thoughts/experiences....??

 

Baby dust and best wishes to everyone... smile.png



#2 Petunia04

Petunia04
  • Global 100+
  • 160 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Kingston, Ontario
  • Interests:Travelling,food,shopping,
    fashion, gardening,
    antiquing,fitness
    entertaiment/celebrity junkie
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:OFC

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

I had a positive at OFC in the Spring and there was only one beta done.  My beta was high so I'm not sure if that's a factor in determining whether a second is done, but as far as I know OFC typically just does one.  My next appointment was my ultrasound 3 weeks later.  I'm sure if you have concerns they'll do another but otherwise you just wait until the viability ultrasound.  Best of luck!


Me: 36  DH: 38 TTC: 9 yrs
5 unsuccessful IUI's
IVF # 1 - April 2008 - BFN; FET October 2008 - BFN
IVF # 2 - Mar 1/13 - Day 1 - Patch Protocol
Mar 10 - LH Surge
Mar 20- Applied first Estrogen patch
Mar 21-23 - Cetrotide injections
Mar 24- CD1
Mar 25 - start Gonal-F 300 & Luveris 75, Decadron pill
Mar 29 - BW & U/S - stims stay the same & add back Cetrotide
Mar 31, Apr 2 & 3 - BW & U/S
April 3 - Trigger tonight @ 10:15! 
April 5 - ER!!  (12 eggs retrieved); 9 fertilized
Apr 10 - transferred 1 beautiful blast - 4bb! 3 frosties
Apr 22 - beta - 703 th_abfp.gif 

May 9 - 1st Ultrasound - 6 wks, 6 days - 1 bean measuring at 7 wks, 3 days!  HB - 130 

July 29 - lost baby due to medical reasons - 19w2d

 

FET - Dec 2013

Dec 6 - transferred 1 blast - 5bb

Dec 20 - beta - BFN

 

FET 2 - Apr 2014


#3 nnks

nnks
  • Just Hatched
  • 7 posts
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:Ottawa Fertility Clinic

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

Thanks for your response Petunia04. I find it a little odd that HCG levels are not monitored, especially for women that have undergone fertility treatments....

 

I'm very nervous but just praying for the best. Can you share your experience/symptoms after your BFP and in early weeks of the pregnancy? What should I look out for/avoid/monitor..?

 

Best of luck to you :)!!



#4 Petunia04

Petunia04
  • Global 100+
  • 160 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Kingston, Ontario
  • Interests:Travelling,food,shopping,
    fashion, gardening,
    antiquing,fitness
    entertaiment/celebrity junkie
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:OFC

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

I hear you, I was totally paranoid since a lot of the other clinics do multiple blood tests.  Before the ultrasound I didn't have a lot of symptoms - I was really thirsty, like all the time, so I added more water & coconut water (for the electrolytes) and I ate a ton of watery fruit.  I found myself getting tired more easily, so I'd have a nap after work and my bedtime was moved up an hour.  Also the peeing, I basically had to pee all the time.  That's about it for me before the scan, my other symptoms didn't come until after the ultrasound. 


Me: 36  DH: 38 TTC: 9 yrs
5 unsuccessful IUI's
IVF # 1 - April 2008 - BFN; FET October 2008 - BFN
IVF # 2 - Mar 1/13 - Day 1 - Patch Protocol
Mar 10 - LH Surge
Mar 20- Applied first Estrogen patch
Mar 21-23 - Cetrotide injections
Mar 24- CD1
Mar 25 - start Gonal-F 300 & Luveris 75, Decadron pill
Mar 29 - BW & U/S - stims stay the same & add back Cetrotide
Mar 31, Apr 2 & 3 - BW & U/S
April 3 - Trigger tonight @ 10:15! 
April 5 - ER!!  (12 eggs retrieved); 9 fertilized
Apr 10 - transferred 1 beautiful blast - 4bb! 3 frosties
Apr 22 - beta - 703 th_abfp.gif 

May 9 - 1st Ultrasound - 6 wks, 6 days - 1 bean measuring at 7 wks, 3 days!  HB - 130 

July 29 - lost baby due to medical reasons - 19w2d

 

FET - Dec 2013

Dec 6 - transferred 1 blast - 5bb

Dec 20 - beta - BFN

 

FET 2 - Apr 2014


#5 Crazy

Crazy
  • 1000+
  • 2146 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Cooking (and eating!), hiking, camping, exercise, reading, gardening.
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:RFP - Calgary

Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:37 PM

I cycled with RFP in Calgary and they don't routinely run betas, just one urine test.  Some clinics only run subsequent betas if the first number wasn't high.  As much as we like to have the numbers the reality is nothing can be done at this point if the numbers aren't rising well.  And, with betas the normal numbers and doubling rates have such a huge range the numbers are more of an indication of the possibility of something.
 
That being said, because this whole process turns us into numbers obsessed crazy women (hormonal crazy women), I went to my GP to have the beta numbers run.icon_wink.gif  

#6 JacMac

JacMac
  • Cyclebase
  • 1937 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Fort McMurray
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:RFP/Adoption By Choice

Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:52 PM

I think perhaps they don't do anything because at that point the pregnancy is going to be viable or not. There isn't really anything they can do and they'll find out at the viability scan. At least that's what I was told when I started bleeding after 7 weeks.
Really the two week wait turns in to the 5-7 week wait after a positive test, then the 20 week wait, then the 40 week wait. I'm not looking forward to that part of another pregnancy.
Me - now 36 Him - 37
Trying to conceive since our wedding day May 25, 2008.
Started Clomid Jan-April 2012.
Referred to RFP June 2012.
First consult at RFP November 2012.
First IVF cycle on antagonist protocol (GonalF, Luveris) January 2013.
Transferred two day-3 embryos, had severe OHSS, lost one twin between 7-13 weeks but was expecting one little one October 2013.
Found out at 6 mos that our little one had died weeks earlier and had to induce and deliver stillborn, July 25, 2013.
Something found on adrenal gland at follow up ultrasound, MRI showed what seems to be a benign tumor. Meeting with specialist Jan 8, 2014 - all fertility treatments on hold. :/
Tumour is definitely producing Aldosterone (causes high blood pressure) and Cortisol. Lucky me, only 34 similar cases recorded in the world! Tumour removed May 2014.
Approached about a possible adoption March 2014. Rush through all the paperwork and process.
Charlotte Evangeline born June 27, 2014. We brought her home on July 7 and held our breath for 10 days until she officially became ours.
Surprise BFP October 2014. Due to wonky cycles, ultrasounds convince Doctors I have a blighted ovum but detailed ultrasound reveals heartbeat at 6w3d. On progesterone support and waiting to see if pregnancy is still viable. Holding our breath again.
Adalyn Marie born on June 9, 2014 after a roller coaster pregnancy.

#7 Petunia04

Petunia04
  • Global 100+
  • 160 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Kingston, Ontario
  • Interests:Travelling,food,shopping,
    fashion, gardening,
    antiquing,fitness
    entertaiment/celebrity junkie
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:OFC

Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:57 PM

Totally true JacMac, I think that's the philosophy at OFC, viable or not.  It's amazing how much info some people get from their clinics.  I'm kind of glad OFC doesn't do that simply because I'm not sure what I'd do with all the extra info. 

 

Crazy - When I did have a positive I was very tempted to go to my family doc for a blood test but stopped myself, I went on a mini vacation instead.  Best of luck with your twins!


  • Crazy likes this

Me: 36  DH: 38 TTC: 9 yrs
5 unsuccessful IUI's
IVF # 1 - April 2008 - BFN; FET October 2008 - BFN
IVF # 2 - Mar 1/13 - Day 1 - Patch Protocol
Mar 10 - LH Surge
Mar 20- Applied first Estrogen patch
Mar 21-23 - Cetrotide injections
Mar 24- CD1
Mar 25 - start Gonal-F 300 & Luveris 75, Decadron pill
Mar 29 - BW & U/S - stims stay the same & add back Cetrotide
Mar 31, Apr 2 & 3 - BW & U/S
April 3 - Trigger tonight @ 10:15! 
April 5 - ER!!  (12 eggs retrieved); 9 fertilized
Apr 10 - transferred 1 beautiful blast - 4bb! 3 frosties
Apr 22 - beta - 703 th_abfp.gif 

May 9 - 1st Ultrasound - 6 wks, 6 days - 1 bean measuring at 7 wks, 3 days!  HB - 130 

July 29 - lost baby due to medical reasons - 19w2d

 

FET - Dec 2013

Dec 6 - transferred 1 blast - 5bb

Dec 20 - beta - BFN

 

FET 2 - Apr 2014


#8 sharlene

sharlene
  • Cyclebase
  • 1737 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:USA
  • Dx:N/A
  • My Clinic:USA

Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

Like others have now already said - the extra tests don't help anything since the pregnancy is either viable or not but there isn't anything you're going to do to make it turn out one way or the other at this point.

 

I did have numerous betas done and it doesn't even reduce your fears or anything because each beta is only as reassuring as the moment the blood was drawn - by the time you get the results (even if it's an hour later), the number could have dropped because it's not a viable pregnancy.  Surely, by the next day, all you know is that you were indeed pregnant yesterday - but still don't know anything about today.  So, short of getting bloodwork every hour...

 

Good luck - I hope you get a great ultrasound.



#9 nnks

nnks
  • Just Hatched
  • 7 posts
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:Ottawa Fertility Clinic

Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:29 AM

Thanks everyone!

 

I guess you're right....multiple beta's would probably cause more worries and anxiety!...it's just that when reading in various forums, there seems to be many clinics that do multiple tests to check HCG levels. 

 

I am already bloated and feel like I weight 1000lbs, EXTREMELY tender breasts I feel like they're giant airbags in my face, no other symptoms so far...

 

Good luck everyone...let's keep each other posted :)



#10 JacMac

JacMac
  • Cyclebase
  • 1937 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Fort McMurray
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:RFP/Adoption By Choice

Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:19 PM

I look at those posts and see how much those women stress over how much their betas are rising or falling and wonder if it's worth it.
Me - now 36 Him - 37
Trying to conceive since our wedding day May 25, 2008.
Started Clomid Jan-April 2012.
Referred to RFP June 2012.
First consult at RFP November 2012.
First IVF cycle on antagonist protocol (GonalF, Luveris) January 2013.
Transferred two day-3 embryos, had severe OHSS, lost one twin between 7-13 weeks but was expecting one little one October 2013.
Found out at 6 mos that our little one had died weeks earlier and had to induce and deliver stillborn, July 25, 2013.
Something found on adrenal gland at follow up ultrasound, MRI showed what seems to be a benign tumor. Meeting with specialist Jan 8, 2014 - all fertility treatments on hold. :/
Tumour is definitely producing Aldosterone (causes high blood pressure) and Cortisol. Lucky me, only 34 similar cases recorded in the world! Tumour removed May 2014.
Approached about a possible adoption March 2014. Rush through all the paperwork and process.
Charlotte Evangeline born June 27, 2014. We brought her home on July 7 and held our breath for 10 days until she officially became ours.
Surprise BFP October 2014. Due to wonky cycles, ultrasounds convince Doctors I have a blighted ovum but detailed ultrasound reveals heartbeat at 6w3d. On progesterone support and waiting to see if pregnancy is still viable. Holding our breath again.
Adalyn Marie born on June 9, 2014 after a roller coaster pregnancy.

#11 lunaflame

lunaflame
  • Global 100+
  • 232 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Kingston
  • Dx:Tubal
  • My Clinic:Ottawa Fertility Centre

Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:57 AM

I have a history of ectopics so OFC is doing an early ultrasound (to find the sac) and a second blood test at the 4 1/2 week mark.  If all is well there, I won't go back until after the 6 week mark for another ultrasound.  Congratulations on your BFP!!!


August 2009 - Marriage and TTC

2010 - Ectopic #1 rupture (6 weeks pregnant, lost left tube)

December 2011 - Ectopic #2 surgery (6 weeks and one day pregnant, right tube damaged)

 

IVF #1 - March 2013

Antagonist Protocol (200 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, Ovidrel)

6 eggs retrieved (5 mature), 3 fertilized, 1 transferred (3-day)

BFN

 

IVF #2 - May/June 2013

Patch Protocol (Estradot, 300 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, Ovidrel)

14 eggs retrieved (14 mature), 1 fertilized, 1 transfered (2-day)

BFN

 

IVF #3 - September/October 2013

Patch Protocol plus ICSI (Estradot, 400 Gonal-F, Luveris, Cetrotide, Ovidrel)

September 15th - Day 1

September 27th - LH Surge 

October 10th - Day 1 - here we go again!

October 11th - start Gonal-F and Luveris

October 15th - start Cetrotide

October 21st - Trigger

October 23rd - ER (20 eggs, 14 fertilized with ICSI)

October 28th - ET (10 embryos made it to day 5!!! 1 transfered as i have OHSS symptoms)

October 29th - 5 frozen embryos!!!

November 8th - BFP!!!

 

July 17th, 2014 - My little miracle Sophia Noelle was born at 11:05pm, weighing 7 pounds, 14 ounces

 

2015

March 10th - Doctor appointment to discuss the FET process.

May - monitoring cycle for LH surge, day 21 bloodwork

June 2nd - SIS/blood results are perfect...FET #1 is officially a GO!

 

FET #1 (unmedicated) - October 2015

October 7th - Day 1

October 16th - daily blood work starts

October 18th - bloodwork (i'm surging baby!!!)

October 19th - ultrasound to check lining

October 22nd - ET - 1 embryo transfered (4 left frozen)

November 5th - BFP!!! Beta 1206

November 9th - ultrasound showed sac in uterus yay!!! Beta over 5000

November 26th - ultrasound showed babe is measuring 8 weeks exactly today

January 6th - Ultrasound and blood (IPS Screening)

February 3rd - IPS Screening part-two - blood

February 11th - anatomy scan - it's a GIRL!!!

February 12th - results of IPS screening - all tests NEGATIVE!!!

DUE DATE - July 6th, 2016 (baby is measuring ahead by 3 days)!!!

 

July 6th, 2016 - My 2nd little miracle Sydney Quinn was born at 9:48am, weighing 8 pounds, 3 ounces

 


#12 SunflowerGirl

SunflowerGirl
  • Global 100+
  • 226 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Ottawa, ON
  • Dx:Tubal
  • My Clinic:OFC

Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:09 PM

With my current BFP, OFC was ready to only have me back for my viability u/s after my first beta (1028 at 13dp5dt), and not do a repeat beta. I was kind of shocked given I had an ectopic with them recently. Once I mentioned that they changed their mind and I went in again today for a second beta (3500 or so. Doubling time is 40hrs). But now they want me to come back again on Wed for another beta, plus they'll do an early u/s to rule out ectopic at the same time.

I admit that today I was quite worried about why they wanted more bloodwork... I'm telling myself it's just to rule out ectopic, but sheesh! It's hard to say whether I'd rather the continuous tests or just wait it out. I think either way is nerve wracking.


Lilypie First Birthday tickers





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: BFP, HCGFOLLOWUP