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#1 ms.stephanie

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:03 PM

We are planning to ship our frozen embryos from NYC to Vancouver Canada.

 

Does anyone has experience with this, and know any courier company that is good?

 

Our clinic in NYC suggested this company, but I don't know if they are good as they are based in UK:

http://www.kynisi.com/

 

Please share your experience with us. 

 

Much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Stephy

 



#2 Beth83

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:18 PM

I know nothing about it, sorry.  But wow is that ever awesome.  I wish you the best of luck finding an awesome carrier for that important 'package'!!!


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#3 ociwoman

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

Hi Ms. Stephanie,

 

AMG, absolutley avoid kynisi!!!! There are horror stories about that company (embryos lost or delayed in transit).

 

Try cryoport.com or medair.ca. These two have excellent reputations and they have offices here in Canada.

 

You will want to ask how the shipping company will guarantee the integrity of your embryos if they will be flying them over from NYC - especially if they will be travelling on more than one flight. There are a few risks with airplane travel:

 

  • delay in transit (since your embies are in North America and not travelling too far, this should not be a problem)
  • loss in transit (cryoshippers can keep embies alive for 7 days, again since North America, should not be a problem)
  • human handling errors such as accidental xray of container at security (kills embies instantly) and opening of container - the risk here increases when there is more than one flight, so verify with the shipper how many flights and how they will ensure none of these things happen.

Usually the company will have someone bring your embies to the specialized security area for sensitive shipments and the tank will be hand-inspected instead of going through regular airport security. There should be a person waiting at the destination point as well to ensure proper handling and pick-up off the plane. If there are several flights, ask the company how they guarantee the handling IN BETWEEN flights. An experienced company will have all of this stuff down pat and be able to tell you exactly how they ensure the integrity of your embryos.  I know, MedAir, for example, has being shipping embryos for years and has never had a slip up. So you might want to try them.

 

Best wishes!



#4 ms.stephanie

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 04:53 PM

Thank you so much Mama Mia for the suggestion and Beth for the wishes.

 

I am contacting MedAir and cryoport.com today, and I will let you know how it goes.

 

Also I talked to Kynisi today, Kosta the owner said he will have someone to accompany the embies in the cabin and ensured they are don't get x-ray. I ask about the horrible stories I red on the internet: http://kynisi.blogspot.ca/

 

He told me that shipping to India is the most difficult because of the ever changing laws, and the what the Australia lady wants to do was illegal at that time, but shipping to Canada from USA is very straight forward and that he will ensure safety.

 

Should I believe in him? I am not so sure. Does anyone have or heard any bad experience with Kynisi shipping embryos to Canada?

 

Thanks,

Stephy 



#5 AMexicanInHamilton

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 05:21 PM

Can you tell me what happened? Looks like I will have to ship my embryos from California to Ontario and I don't know how to start looking for a company!


Me: 45, DH, 57, TTC first child for both of us since April 2009

September 2010 – Parlodel, BFP, m/c 5w

January 2011 referred to the Hannam centre (Toronto), all tests were great: Dx: Unexplained. After a few days they called me to say they forgot to tell me I had a polyp (about 1mm) and I needed a hysteroscopy. My own doctor in Mexico City said I was perfect and the polyp was too small to matter.

August, 2013 – Omifin + IUI#1 (Mexico City) with sex selection (after all, everything was supposed to be perfect, and we both would prefer a girl if possible...), BFN

July, 2014 – Omifin + IUI#2 (Mexico City, no sex selection, this time I had an injection to trigger ovulation 36 hrs before IUI) BFP, 7w U/S slow heartbeat, 8w U/S no heartbeat, m/c 9w

April 6, 2015 – Omifin + IUI#3 (Xalapa, Veracruz) had the injection to trigger (also 36 hrs before IUI) but the day of the IUI it turned out that the sample had a low sperm count (2 million - maybe because we BD'd 36 hrs before IUI?), BFN

I became 44 on the 8th of July.

July 27, 2015 - Letrozole + injectables + trigger (12 hrs before IUI) IUI#4 (Hamilton, Ontario) I had 5 good follicles and hubby's sperm count was 18.5 million post wash. BFN!!!

August 22, 2015 - Letrozole + (a lot less) injections + trigger (Hamilton, Ontario) IUI#5. I had ONE (bigger) follicle and hubby's sperm count was 27 million post wash. BFN cry.gif

September 2015 - I put profiles on NRFA and MiraclesWaiting to find a match for an open embryo donation.

December 2015 - An embryo donor contacted me out of the blue through MiraclesWaiting!

January 2016 - Sonohysterogram and hysteroscopy at my new clinic in Toronto. 

February 2016 - All consent forms have been signed for the open embryo donation.

April 6, 2016 - Our four embryos were delivered Emoticons09793.gif

May 25, 2016 - FET #1; June 5 beta #1 = 6; June 7 beta #2 = 2 (stopped meds, went back to the clinic on day 2 of my period, started FET#2 straight way!)

June 27, 2016 - FET #2 = th_abfp.gif =  hCG @11dp5dt = 233; hCG @15dp5dt = 4222; hCG @18dp5dt = 7222; hCG @ 23dp5dt = 17000

July 8th, 2016 - I became 45 years old.

July 26th, 2016 -  first ultrasound, heart rate 118, measuring 6.4 weeks (@6.6 weeks)

August 2, 2016 - 2nd u/s - hr 154, measuring 7.5 w (@7.6w) Clot found. Rest prescribed.

August 9, 2016 - 3rd u/s - hr 179, measuring 8.2w (@8.6w) Clot still there.

August 16, 2016 - 4th u/s - hr 174, due date changed to March 16, clot same size as two weeks before so back to regular activity.

September 8, 2016 - NT scan. Doctor said everything was fantastic.... [nausea and headache killing me...].

October 3, 2016 - hr 144, midwife changed due date to March 20!!!! dontknow.gif [feeling better...]

 

 

 

 


#6 AMexicanInHamilton

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 10:23 AM

Can anyone tell me any experiences good or bad you might have had with any of these two shipping companies?

CoreCryo Labs

Medair


Me: 45, DH, 57, TTC first child for both of us since April 2009

September 2010 – Parlodel, BFP, m/c 5w

January 2011 referred to the Hannam centre (Toronto), all tests were great: Dx: Unexplained. After a few days they called me to say they forgot to tell me I had a polyp (about 1mm) and I needed a hysteroscopy. My own doctor in Mexico City said I was perfect and the polyp was too small to matter.

August, 2013 – Omifin + IUI#1 (Mexico City) with sex selection (after all, everything was supposed to be perfect, and we both would prefer a girl if possible...), BFN

July, 2014 – Omifin + IUI#2 (Mexico City, no sex selection, this time I had an injection to trigger ovulation 36 hrs before IUI) BFP, 7w U/S slow heartbeat, 8w U/S no heartbeat, m/c 9w

April 6, 2015 – Omifin + IUI#3 (Xalapa, Veracruz) had the injection to trigger (also 36 hrs before IUI) but the day of the IUI it turned out that the sample had a low sperm count (2 million - maybe because we BD'd 36 hrs before IUI?), BFN

I became 44 on the 8th of July.

July 27, 2015 - Letrozole + injectables + trigger (12 hrs before IUI) IUI#4 (Hamilton, Ontario) I had 5 good follicles and hubby's sperm count was 18.5 million post wash. BFN!!!

August 22, 2015 - Letrozole + (a lot less) injections + trigger (Hamilton, Ontario) IUI#5. I had ONE (bigger) follicle and hubby's sperm count was 27 million post wash. BFN cry.gif

September 2015 - I put profiles on NRFA and MiraclesWaiting to find a match for an open embryo donation.

December 2015 - An embryo donor contacted me out of the blue through MiraclesWaiting!

January 2016 - Sonohysterogram and hysteroscopy at my new clinic in Toronto. 

February 2016 - All consent forms have been signed for the open embryo donation.

April 6, 2016 - Our four embryos were delivered Emoticons09793.gif

May 25, 2016 - FET #1; June 5 beta #1 = 6; June 7 beta #2 = 2 (stopped meds, went back to the clinic on day 2 of my period, started FET#2 straight way!)

June 27, 2016 - FET #2 = th_abfp.gif =  hCG @11dp5dt = 233; hCG @15dp5dt = 4222; hCG @18dp5dt = 7222; hCG @ 23dp5dt = 17000

July 8th, 2016 - I became 45 years old.

July 26th, 2016 -  first ultrasound, heart rate 118, measuring 6.4 weeks (@6.6 weeks)

August 2, 2016 - 2nd u/s - hr 154, measuring 7.5 w (@7.6w) Clot found. Rest prescribed.

August 9, 2016 - 3rd u/s - hr 179, measuring 8.2w (@8.6w) Clot still there.

August 16, 2016 - 4th u/s - hr 174, due date changed to March 16, clot same size as two weeks before so back to regular activity.

September 8, 2016 - NT scan. Doctor said everything was fantastic.... [nausea and headache killing me...].

October 3, 2016 - hr 144, midwife changed due date to March 20!!!! dontknow.gif [feeling better...]

 

 

 

 


#7 DQC

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 09:00 PM

Thank you so much Mama Mia for the suggestion and Beth for the wishes.

 

I am contacting MedAir and cryoport.com today, and I will let you know how it goes.

 

Also I talked to Kynisi today, Kosta the owner said he will have someone to accompany the embies in the cabin and ensured they are don't get x-ray. I ask about the horrible stories I red on the internet: http://kynisi.blogspot.ca/

 

He told me that shipping to India is the most difficult because of the ever changing laws, and the what the Australia lady wants to do was illegal at that time, but shipping to Canada from USA is very straight forward and that he will ensure safety.

 

Should I believe in him? I am not so sure. Does anyone have or heard any bad experience with Kynisi shipping embryos to Canada?

 

Thanks,

Stephy 

 

Hi ms.stephanie! We need to ship our embryos from Tucson, US, to Montreal.
Which company have you used at the end? Are you satisfied? Anything else to share? 


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#8 AMexicanInHamilton

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:24 PM

I used medair and loved them. Tell them I highly recommended them to you!! My name is Lucia Pizarro Wehlen 😉

Me: 45, DH, 57, TTC first child for both of us since April 2009

September 2010 – Parlodel, BFP, m/c 5w

January 2011 referred to the Hannam centre (Toronto), all tests were great: Dx: Unexplained. After a few days they called me to say they forgot to tell me I had a polyp (about 1mm) and I needed a hysteroscopy. My own doctor in Mexico City said I was perfect and the polyp was too small to matter.

August, 2013 – Omifin + IUI#1 (Mexico City) with sex selection (after all, everything was supposed to be perfect, and we both would prefer a girl if possible...), BFN

July, 2014 – Omifin + IUI#2 (Mexico City, no sex selection, this time I had an injection to trigger ovulation 36 hrs before IUI) BFP, 7w U/S slow heartbeat, 8w U/S no heartbeat, m/c 9w

April 6, 2015 – Omifin + IUI#3 (Xalapa, Veracruz) had the injection to trigger (also 36 hrs before IUI) but the day of the IUI it turned out that the sample had a low sperm count (2 million - maybe because we BD'd 36 hrs before IUI?), BFN

I became 44 on the 8th of July.

July 27, 2015 - Letrozole + injectables + trigger (12 hrs before IUI) IUI#4 (Hamilton, Ontario) I had 5 good follicles and hubby's sperm count was 18.5 million post wash. BFN!!!

August 22, 2015 - Letrozole + (a lot less) injections + trigger (Hamilton, Ontario) IUI#5. I had ONE (bigger) follicle and hubby's sperm count was 27 million post wash. BFN cry.gif

September 2015 - I put profiles on NRFA and MiraclesWaiting to find a match for an open embryo donation.

December 2015 - An embryo donor contacted me out of the blue through MiraclesWaiting!

January 2016 - Sonohysterogram and hysteroscopy at my new clinic in Toronto. 

February 2016 - All consent forms have been signed for the open embryo donation.

April 6, 2016 - Our four embryos were delivered Emoticons09793.gif

May 25, 2016 - FET #1; June 5 beta #1 = 6; June 7 beta #2 = 2 (stopped meds, went back to the clinic on day 2 of my period, started FET#2 straight way!)

June 27, 2016 - FET #2 = th_abfp.gif =  hCG @11dp5dt = 233; hCG @15dp5dt = 4222; hCG @18dp5dt = 7222; hCG @ 23dp5dt = 17000

July 8th, 2016 - I became 45 years old.

July 26th, 2016 -  first ultrasound, heart rate 118, measuring 6.4 weeks (@6.6 weeks)

August 2, 2016 - 2nd u/s - hr 154, measuring 7.5 w (@7.6w) Clot found. Rest prescribed.

August 9, 2016 - 3rd u/s - hr 179, measuring 8.2w (@8.6w) Clot still there.

August 16, 2016 - 4th u/s - hr 174, due date changed to March 16, clot same size as two weeks before so back to regular activity.

September 8, 2016 - NT scan. Doctor said everything was fantastic.... [nausea and headache killing me...].

October 3, 2016 - hr 144, midwife changed due date to March 20!!!! dontknow.gif [feeling better...]

 

 

 

 


#9 Sweetheart

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:06 PM

I used Cryocore and it was smooth as silk.
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2/07 First Clomid natural cycle = BFN
3/07 Second Clomid natural cycle = BFP, MC 5/07 at 8 weeks, D & C 5/07
07/07 Third clomid natural cycle= no sign of follicle but ovulation assumed by bloodwork = BFN
8/07 First Clomid + IUI cycle = BFN + complications
9/07-11/07 Unable to TTC due to recovering from injury
12/07 First Injectibles cycle (SC) (Puregon) + IUI = 1 mature follicle and a BFN
01/08 2nd Injectibles cycle (IM)(Puregon & Repronex), 2 follicles but not quite mature, IUI any way = BFN
02/08 3rd injectibles (IM) (Bravelle & Repronex), 2 follicles 21 and 14, IUI = BFN
03/08 4th injectibles (IM) (Clomid + Gonal F), 1 follicle, IUI x 4 days in a row = BFN
04/08 IVF#1 Lupron flare w/o BCP, Lupron+Bravelle+Repronex, 7 follies but only 1 matures +IUI=BFN
05/08 Break from injectibles: Femara + IUI = BFN
06/08 Break from injectibles: Femara + 1 follicle + IUI = BFN
07/08 6th injectibles: high dose gonal F: 1 follicle +IUI =BFN
08/08 IVF#2 with low dose repronex only: Surprise 3 follies, 15, 19, 21. 1 egg retrieved fertilized and Grade 1 8 cell transfered aug 19=BFN
BREAK of 6 months turned to 8: took accupuncture, lost 30 pounds, added exercise, turned 41, Day 3 FSH down from average 7 to 4, worked on marriage relationship strained from dealing with IF
05/09 IVF #3 Gonal F and menopur. 5 Follicles but none mature. Cycle canceled.
07/09 IVF #4 Known DE cycle, 10 follicles, 1 sad egg, no fertilization. WT*?
08/09 Started taking DHEA (why didn't I know of this before?)
01/10 IVF #5: Convert monitoring cycle to natural cycle IVF due to 2 mature follicles being observed on ultrasound
01/10 1 grade 1, 8 cell embryo transferred. BFN
04/10 Estrogen Priming Cycle was cancelled for some reason I forget. known DE planned
08/10 IVF #6 Estrogen Priming Cycle with massive doses of FSH = nothing = cycle canceled and told to go away.
09/10 Waiting for Known DE cycle with younger donor
12/10 Known DE backs out
02/11 IVF #7. 2 embryos, both transferred. HPT+ 8dp3dt!!!, Beta #1 14dp3dt 278, Beta #2 16dp3dt 604, Beta #3 18dp3dt 1158 (not quite doubled...), first ultrasound--> TWINS!! March 25 only one slow heartbeat. April 2 no growth, slow heartbeat, April 6 no heartbeats--miscarriage at 9 weeks. D&C.
7/11 FET #1 BFN
9/11 IVF #8 Sad looking embryos. 4 transferred on day 3. BFN. Advised to move onto surrogacy. d e v a s t a t e d and b r o k e
04/13 Adopted 2 blastocycsts: BFN. Sperm banked before DH treated for cancer..
11/13 Very last attempt. New clinic. DE. Add intralipids and viagra. 9 eggs, 5 mature, 3 fertilized, 1 made it to day 3. no surprise, BFN..
04/14 Second "very last attempt" with 4th DE IVF.
04/05/14 13 eggs eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 7 make it to blast, 2 transferred, 2 frosties, BFP!! First Beta 4/21/14 = 92; Second Beta 4/23/14 = 265; 3rd Beta 4/25 613. May 9 ultrasound, right on track 6 weeks 5 days and hb 113 bpm. .
05/13/14 bleeding. May 14 no heartbeat. May 16 D & C. Are we allowed to say F words on here?

#10 EverHopefull!

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:43 PM

Sounds weird but I used Fedex and it worked out great.  I wouldn't have even thought of them but it's the company my clinic uses.  Ask your clinic who they use, that might be easiest.


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#11 DQC

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:30 AM

I used Cryocore and it was smooth as silk.

 

 

Hi Sweetheart
We need to ship our embryos from Tucson, US, to Montreal. I have quotes from all the companies mentioned in the thread and the one from Core Cryolab (I guess it's the same one we're talking about) is the most affordable. The thing is I know nobody who has used it. Can you please give me more details? TIA!


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