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#26 JacMac

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:15 AM

That really sucks as we try to get other provinces to fund IVF. And if I was a couple living in Quebec I'd take the government to court over forcing me to transfer one embryo if they weren't paying for my medical treatment. If it's a private service your doctor should be allowed to do what you want.
Me - now 36 Him - 37
Trying to conceive since our wedding day May 25, 2008.
Started Clomid Jan-April 2012.
Referred to RFP June 2012.
First consult at RFP November 2012.
First IVF cycle on antagonist protocol (GonalF, Luveris) January 2013.
Transferred two day-3 embryos, had severe OHSS, lost one twin between 7-13 weeks but was expecting one little one October 2013.
Found out at 6 mos that our little one had died weeks earlier and had to induce and deliver stillborn, July 25, 2013.
Something found on adrenal gland at follow up ultrasound, MRI showed what seems to be a benign tumor. Meeting with specialist Jan 8, 2014 - all fertility treatments on hold. :/
Tumour is definitely producing Aldosterone (causes high blood pressure) and Cortisol. Lucky me, only 34 similar cases recorded in the world! Tumour removed May 2014.
Approached about a possible adoption March 2014. Rush through all the paperwork and process.
Charlotte Evangeline born June 27, 2014. We brought her home on July 7 and held our breath for 10 days until she officially became ours.
Surprise BFP October 2014. Due to wonky cycles, ultrasounds convince Doctors I have a blighted ovum but detailed ultrasound reveals heartbeat at 6w3d. On progesterone support and waiting to see if pregnancy is still viable. Holding our breath again.
Adalyn Marie born on June 9, 2014 after a roller coaster pregnancy.

#27 MandyA

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Posted 21 August 2015 - 04:18 PM

More info in the other thread about this. For some reason, no matter how much I edit this, it lands on page 2.

https://ivf.ca/forums...ding-in-quebec/


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Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#28 MandyA

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 05:52 PM

Bill 20 was adopted today and will be in force tomorrow.  Well, Thursday, since tomorrow is a holiday.

As far as I know, any cycles currently happening can be completed.  I think embryos frozen from these and previous cycles may be transferred for free.

But for anyone who was going to an appointment Thursday to begin a cycle, you must pay up front and get a tax credit of up to 80% back at tax time.  If you don't owe anything in that will eat into it.

 

Sad day for the infertile of Quebec.


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TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#29 MandyA

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:21 PM

And the plot thickens. It all makes sense now.

Bottom line... Bill 20, now law, cut the three free IVF cycles to fund ultrasounds by radiologists. ** Gaetien Barrette, the Health Minister who rammed it through, is a radiologist. *** Cancer is more important than infertility. Well, to 5 out of 6 couples/people who are able to easily have a child, yes... they probably agree.

To me, one of the 1 in 6... infertility treatment coverage IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. But whatever. My time is almost up. The alarm is going off, and I, like many Quebec couples, must go in debt for the rest of my (our) life(ves) for even a chance to have a child. Many aren't even able to afford to pay up front.

** Ultrasounds performed by radiologists in private practice will be part of the basket of services reimbursed by the Régie de Medicare (RAMQ) in 2016, which should also help improve access, said Minister. The measure is $ 30 million. **

"Chronology of events:

1. On 10 November, the draft law 20 is adopted, abolishes the programme public of assisted reproduction and privatized so the in vitro fertilization. Quebec believes save $ 48 million.

2. for the nif, a tax credit very restrictive and limited will now be offered to the place of the cover ramq and do probably will cost to the state that a few million.

3. Three days later, on 13 November 2015, in the margin of the adoption of the draft law 20, the minister of health gaétan barrette, Radiologist, get along with the president of the federation of medical specialists Du Québec (Fmsq) Diane Francoeur, an obstetrician-Gynecologist, for allegedly increase access to care.

4. In This Agreement Ministry-Fmsq, ultrasounds practised in cabinet by the radiologists will be part of the basket of services reimbursed by the directors of health insurance (Ramq) as early as 2016, including the obstetric ultrasound. The measure is worth $ 30 million.

5. This new measure will be without cost to the state, since a sum of $ 30 million allocated for this purpose will be pumped to even the money supply of $ 4,3 billion already paid by the government to the fmsq and where Also found the funds for the nif.

There's a few years, Dr. Barrette had told me, when he was president of the fmsq, that he intended to suss out in the budget allocated to procreation in order to pay the obstetric ultrasound in private practice.

My understanding of what is happening:
The Minister of health and the president of the fmsq détroussent, hand in hand, the few 7000 infertile couples of the public budget allocated to the IVF to defray by the ramq, in private practice, the obstetric ultrasound for the few 70000-80000 Couples Fertile.

By the way, unlike the infertility, being pregnant is not a disease, but it's more votes in your favour.

I leave you react."

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TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#30 Cloud992

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 12:31 PM

What's really sad about this is that not only did Dr. Barette remove the program but he actually left us worse off than even before the program started! Back then, there were 50% tax credits (not conditional on income), no stupid conditions (e.g. either parent can't already have 1 kid), no age limit, etc.

 

It is indeed a sad time.


Me: 39 DOR; DH: 42 no problem

TTC since Dec. 2010 

 

IUI #1 - oct/nov. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #2 - nov/dec. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #3 - dec/jan. 2012-13. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

Break (3 months in Europe)

IUI #4 - May/june. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #5 - June. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #6 - July/aug. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene).BFN

 

IVF #1 - sept. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide) - aborted on sept. 9th b/c not enough mature follies - converted into IUI. BFN

 

IUI #7 - sept/oct. 2013. Natural IUI (to give ovaries a break). BFN

 

IVF #2 - oct/nov. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide)

nov. 6 - ER: 6 eggs! (excited because doctor could only see 3 mature follies on 2D u/s and almost aborted the protocol).

nov. 11 - ET 1 5-day blast (+ 2 frosties)

10dp5dt - BFP on hpt (definitely not an hallucination)!! BFP

11dp5dt - beta = 232

14dp5dt - beta = 983 (my clinic only does 1 beta test but I asked for another b/c I was very nervous.
5w2d: went to the clinic b/c sharp pain on left side for past 18 hours. RE can't confirm uterine pregnancy on u/s b/c too early. Beta = 3800.

5w4d: 2nd u/s to try to rule out ectopic.  RE can see a sac in my uterus!  Beta = 6507.

Dec. 10 (6w6d): viability u/s. Saw hb (don't know heart rate) and bean measuring 6w5d and 0.78 cm.  

Jan. 17 (12w2d): NT scan. Everything is good.  NT is normal.

Jan. 28 (13w6d): Harmony test results excellent (risk < 1/10,000). We're having a girl!!

March 10 (19w5d): Anatomy scan.  Everything looks perfect!  

May 27 (30w6d): Monthly OB appointment.  Fundal height at 27cm only (should be 31).  Growth scan scheduled.

June 3 (31w6d): Growth scan. Everything looks normal but baby is small: all her measurements are in the 20th percentile or below.

June 25 (35w): OB appointment. Fundal height at 31cm.

July 14 2014 (37w5d): baby Ellie is born at 5 lbs 5 oz. 

 

Trying for baby #2:

FET #1 - aug/sept. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin)

sept. 18 - ET of a 5-day blast

sept. 29 - beta... BFN 

 

FET #2 - nov/dec. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin) - last frozen embryo

dec. 3 - ET of a 5-day blast

dec. 14 - beta... BFN 

 

IVF #3 - april 2016 (gonal-f 450; luveris 150)

april 12 - cancelled cycle because only 1 growing follicle (converted into IUI)

april 15 - IUI... BFN

 

IVF #4 - july/aug. 2016 (Co-Q10 and DHEA until then)

 


#31 MandyA

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 01:57 PM

From TVANouvelles today, can't find it in English.

"The CAQ wants to restore the free program of assisted procreation"

It's a vote grab, though. CAQ is a political party.

http://www.tvanouvel...tion-assistee-1

According to their policies on Wikipedia (not going to get too political, just presenting info):

"The party proposes government investment in education and partial decentralization of the healthcare system. They promise "to further develop the entrepreneurial culture in Québec" and provide government resources for the private sector. The party also supports austerity "to provide the government with the flexibility it needs to adapt to the ongoing changes in the economy"; one measure specifically mentioned is leaving 6,000 open Hydro-Québec employment positions unfilled. Although the party does not support independence, it advocates Quebec nationalism. This includes limiting immigration and promoting the use of French without creating new barriers. The party supports multiculturalism insofar as to "integrate newcomers"."

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Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#32 MandyA

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 12:55 PM

http://www.tvanouvel...ffirme-barrette

The CAQ makes "populism", says Barrette
Kathryne Lamontagne | QMI Agency | Published on November 28, 2017 at 10:08 pm - Update on November 28, 2017 at 22:14

The Coalition avenir Québec (CAQ) is making "populism" by demanding a free assisted procreation program, denounces Minister Gaétan Barrette.

As revealed by our Parliamentary Office, the CAQ asked Tuesday for the return of the access program to in vitro fertilization, in effect from 2010 to 2015.

Surrounded by women suffering from infertility problems, François Paradis MP asked Minister Barrette to bring back this program that meets the "fundamental right" to start a family.

"It's not just about making a dream come true. Starting a family, having a child is an investment, "said spokesman for the CAQ in health.

Populism
Intercepted at the exit of the Liberal caucus, the Minister of Health accused the second opposition of falling into populism. "The CAQ announces things that are probably not feasible," said Mr. Barrette. At the CAQ, we launch all kinds of things, we never figure them. "

Mr Barrette did not want to reopen the debate on assisted procreation. "It's a question of government choice," he said. A responsible government must manage the public finances, the taxes and the taxes of the citizens, and must make choices. "

However, in a parliamentary committee on Bill 20, which abolished the assisted procreation program, Gaétan Barrette was open to reviewing his position if public finances permitted.

He asserted that "only the budget made us make a decision like that," said Mr. Paradis.

Thousands of dollars
In November 2015, the legislation came into force, forcing infertile couples to spend thousands of dollars to use this method.

"Everything is in place for a financially viable program, argues Martine Vallée, vice president of the Association of Infertile Couples of Quebec (ACIQ). We are ready to do our part in an aging population, but currently there are too many obstacles to starting a family in Quebec when we are infertile. "

The favorable PQ
Like the CAQ, the Parti Québécois wants to reintegrate the program "in the more limited guidelines proposed by the health commissioner", who suggested in 2015 a dozen measures to improve it.

"But the worst thing to do is what Mr. Barrette did, that is to say, to get him out of health insurance," said Chief Jean-François Lisée.

See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.






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