Has anyone moved to Quebec for IVF funding? - Healthcare Funding and Finances - IVF.ca Forums

Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

Has anyone moved to Quebec for IVF funding?

quebec move coverage funding

  • Please log in to reply
31 replies to this topic

#1 Ttc28492

Ttc28492
  • Member
  • 2 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Unexplained

Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:41 PM

Hello,

 

I am wondering if anyone has moved to Quebec for IVF? I live in BC and it is going to cost me approx. $9500 for IVF here. Since it's covered in Quebec I am considering moving. 

But I have a few questions:

 

How long does it take before coverage kicks in?

How long is the wait list for IVF once you have quebec medical coverage?

Do you have to live there for a certain amount of time after the IVF?
Can you move to another province if you become pregnant?

 

Thanks!!!
 


  • MeAgain likes this

icon_question.gif Candice

 

TTC for 3.5 years
3 miscarriages in the first 1.5 years
Diagnosed with Antiphosphilipid Syndrome
2 years of unexplained infertility
4 unsuccessful IUI's 


#2 Lisa1981

Lisa1981
  • Cyclebase
  • 1698 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Gatineau
  • Interests:Getting my sanity back
  • Dx:Endometriosis
  • My Clinic:N/A at the moment

Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:32 PM

HI smile.png

 

I'm a QC resident (didn't move here though) ad I can tell you the following:

 

1: Before you are eligible for any of the RAMQ's coverage, you need to reside here 90 days.

2: There is no waiting list for IVF (at least at the clinics I've been too). Once you have your initial appointment, you can start.

3 & 4: As far as I know, there is no restrictions.  The government can't force someone to live somewhere... It's just like any other medical procedure, there's no restrictions on someone that had a heart surgery for example so why would there be on IVF smile.png

 

Hope this helps smile.png

 

Lisa


  • gibasgirl, MeAgain and ebonyglare like this

Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


#3 MeAgain

MeAgain
  • 1000+
  • 1374 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Endometriosis
  • My Clinic:#1Heartland...#2 OFC

Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:49 PM

Same as Ontario for women with blocked tubes. You would have to live here 3 months to get OHIP.
  • gibasgirl and Lisa1981 like this
Me: 39. DH 43 TTC:18 yrs DX: stage 4 endo @ 20 yrs old.FSH- 10-12DH - fine 7 corrective surgeries for endo & blocked tubes open 5 ectopics (natural) (cilia in tubes do not work) IVF #1 ... 2 Grade C 8cell - one healthy baby boy!! 2 frozen 4cell and 6cell- Grade BEctopic (natural)2004 - 8 weeks pg - tube exploded - internal bleeding - surgery - other tube closed Feb 2012 - FET - no transfer IVF# 2 (OFC) March 15 2013- 300iu, cetrotide, hcgONE mature follicle - no fertilization.

July 2013 - EPP - BFN
November - 2013 - EPP - One follicle, one egg, natural fertilization = BFP!!

#4 ebonyglare

ebonyglare
  • Global 100+
  • 451 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Gatineau
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:MRC/McGill

Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:46 PM

I live in QC and didn't move here for IVF. I've just been here since I moved back to the region (prior to funding and prior to TTC).

 

As someone who has moved across the country, it would likely cost you a lot more in moving fees to physically move to QC. You need to live here for 3 months before being eligible for RAMQ coverage. We also pay the some of the highest income taxes in Canada. Yes, your 10K IVF would be much less expensive here (you would still have to pay for meds and some other tests), but the cost of moving and income taxes really wouldn't lead you to saving 10K on IVF. It could end up costing the same once you factor everything else in. Plus if you intend to move back to BC afterwards, you need to factor in that cost as well.

 

Anyway, to answer your questions:

How long does it take before coverage kicks in?  3 months

How long is the wait list for IVF once you have quebec medical coverage? It depends on the clinic. Private clinics have no wait list. McGill can have a bit of a wait since it is a public clinic.

Do you have to live there for a certain amount of time after the IVF? No. However, it seems like you would want to live here until you deliver successfully. It's not over until the baby is in your hands.
Can you move to another province if you become pregnant? Sure. However, if there are complications in your pregnancy (i.e. miscarriage) and you want to try again, you would need to start all over again. Plus if you move to another province, you would have a 3 month wait before you are eligible for coverage in that province. So you would be paying out of pocket for prenatal care in your new province. The stress of moving can't be too helpful either...

 

Sorry to sound like a downer. It's a big decision and I hope you can make one objectively.


  • gibasgirl, sharlene, KennyandFooty and 3 others like this

February 2014 - A pleasant surprise!

 

See About Me page for the details :)


#5 snowmom

snowmom

    Raving Lunatic

  • Cyclebase
  • 2067 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Tubal
  • My Clinic:VFC

Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

As someone who did move from BC to Ont, in part because of OHIP coverage for ivf, it would definately be cheaper to stay here and do it. Moving costs for an average house was 10,000 one way. Yes, you save on the ivf, but probably still pay for the meds, and the moving costs both ways. Remember, ivf costs are a tax rebate as well.
  • gibasgirl, KRKR, MeAgain and 1 other like this
Me 40: Total tubal blockage, 1 ovary, DOR DH 35: Poor motilityTTC since 1998DS natural conception 1996DS&DD ivf icsi 2008DS ivf icsi 2013.Our family is complete.Donated four frosties. IP's got bfp!

#6 runner.girl

runner.girl
  • Global 100+
  • 229 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Other
  • My Clinic:PCRM

Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:21 PM

Honestly, it sounds a little strange to move across the country to get covered IVF. I'm in BC as well and an IVF cycle starts at around 6500. It's only getting towards 9000 if you're freezing embryos and needing ICSI. The meds aren't going to be covered in either province unless you have supplementary insurance, and even that is plan dependent.

I can't imagine that the stress of uprooting yourself, starting over in a different culture/climate, trying to find another job/friends, etc... would be worth the move for getting cycle fees covered. If there's other reasons to move, then covered IVF would be a bonus, but it seems a bit extreme for 10K. As others have mentioned, you'd also need to factor in moving costs. Just my 2 cents.
  • Lisa1981 likes this
Dx: Unicornuate uterus, one tube and some sperm morphology

#7 Ttc28492

Ttc28492
  • Member
  • 2 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Unexplained

Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:18 AM

Thanks for all the info ladies!!

Sorry, guess I should have clarified. My best friends mom lives in Quebec so I would be living with her. I'm not about to sell my house in BC and my business is also in BC. I can work from another province, that wouldn't be a problem. Regarding taxes, I pay myself through shareholder loans & dividends, so my personal taxes are at $0, no matter what province I reside in. I try to keep my money in my business as it's a limited company. The flights back and forth would be my biggest cost because I'd probably need to fly back to BC a few times. 

It's good to know that the meds wouldn't be covered, because I'm sure that's around $1500 - $2000. So all in all, probably not worth the trouble. I still don't understand why it wouldn't be covered nationally. We are all Canadian, so you'd think we'd have the same rights & medical coverage. Ugh. 


 


icon_question.gif Candice

 

TTC for 3.5 years
3 miscarriages in the first 1.5 years
Diagnosed with Antiphosphilipid Syndrome
2 years of unexplained infertility
4 unsuccessful IUI's 


#8 ebonyglare

ebonyglare
  • Global 100+
  • 451 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Gatineau
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:MRC/McGill

Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:47 AM

Health coverage is handled provincially. Quebec, in true Quebec fashion, took the Feds to task when the Assisted Human Reproduction Act came out because they felt it infringed on their constitutional rights (oh the irony!) as a province. I often wonder if they covered IVF to spite the ROC (rest of Canada). No idea, but it's a great system.

It would be too easy for the ROC to cover it. There doesn't seem to be much public support for IVF as the uninformed like to say 'why not just adopt?' like that's easier!

Sorry for the rant. Cost-wise, there are clinics overseas that offer IVF but not sure if they are much cheaper once you factor in flights.

Good luck with your IVF.
  • gibasgirl likes this

February 2014 - A pleasant surprise!

 

See About Me page for the details :)


#9 popcorn

popcorn
  • Global 100+
  • 219 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:McGill/MFC

Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:48 AM

Just wanted to chime in and mention (in case any QC residents are reading, I want to make sure they know their rights..) that meds ARE covered under RAMQ. You are covered at (I believe) 80%, until you have paid out $980 (approx), and everything after that, you will be covered at 100% for the rest of the calendar year. If you have private drug insurance, your insurance company is required by Quebec law to give you the SAME or better coverage than the RAMQ drug plan. 

 

I strongly urge women in the rest of Canada to fight for coverage in your own provinces. You are paying taxes that go towards treating the medical conditions of others, including those who are ill or injured due to lifestyle choices they have made. Your MEDICAL CONDITION of infertility should likewise be covered by your provincial health plan. 


  • silverdollar, KennyandFooty, judes and 9 others like this
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Me: 40 Him: 37</strong></span></p><p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>started fertility treatments in 2012</strong></span></p><p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>IUI #1 BFN</strong></span></p><p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>IUI #2 cancelled</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;">Polypectomy.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><strong>IVF #1 </strong></span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">BFN</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><strong>IVF #2 </strong></span><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>BFN</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;">"Spontaneous" </span><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><strong>BFP.</strong></span><span style="font-size:14px;">  Miscarriage. </span></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><strong>IUI #3</strong></span><span style="font-size:14px;"> <span style="color:#000000;"><strong>BFN</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>IUI #4 BFN</strong></span></span></p><p>Nov 2013: Osteopath treatment to 'correct' retroverted uterus</p><p>Jan 10 2014: 'Spontaneous' <span style="color:#000000;"><strong>BFP</strong></span></p><p>Viability u/s: Feb 4: Not good. HB but embryo measuring 1.5 weeks behind.</p><p>March 13 u/s diagnosed with missed miscarriage. Had to take misoprostol.</p><p>Jan 2015:</p><p><strong>IVF #3 BFN</strong> transferred two blasts, froze two more</p><p><strong>IVF #3 FET BFP</strong>, but MC at 8 weeks</p><p><strong>DE IVF #1</strong> in Zlin, Czech Republic. 2 blasts transferred, 4 more frozen</p><p>BFP, and it's twins!

#10 Myrtle

Myrtle
  • Cyclebase
  • 435 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:McGill

Posted 09 September 2013 - 09:13 AM

If you are just moving yourself, and already know where you are going to stay in Quebec, then I don't think the cost or stress of moving sounds very high.  You didn't say if you have a partner, who would need to fly in to provide sperm or not, but that could be a cost factor.   Overall, I do think it would be cheaper to move than to pay the $9500.  Everything is covered in Quebec.  

 

One thing I would factor it your decision though, is time.  The first IVF does not necessarily work.  There are tests doctors perform that take time.  Going through just once cycle could take up to 6 months from start to finish, with the wait time for a public hospital like McGill and doing the preliminary testing.  Then if that one doesn't take, you need to figure out how long to wait for the next one, and what tests to pursue and what the doctors think you ought to try.   

 

If you were going to move to Quebec indefinitely, then it does make sense.  I am in QC and we are about to go for our 3rd IVF and we started fertility treatment there over two years ago.  Also there can be unforeseen circumstances that cause a cycle to get cancelled.  Also if you get any embryos frozen they will be here in QC and if you move away you will have to come back to get them.  

 

Good Luck to you!!! 


See my profile for more details.  

 

Me: 42 DH: 37

DS #1 conceived naturally, born Dec. 1st, 2008

January 2010, Begin TTC #2
September 2011 start charting
April 2011 Consult with RE.
All tests normal. No problems found.
Two IUIs. BFN.
February 2012 IVF #1 -BFN.
FET July 2012- BFN.
IVF#2  Fall 2012
Hysteroscopy Tues. 8/21
PGD 2 out of 11 embryos are normal and put back in. Beta November 7th. BFN.

 

Further testing - the RPL test- results in suspected immune issues.  Recommended protocol to take baby aspirin 

and possibly steroid.

Start taking baby aspirin.

April 4th 2013. Surprise BFP, chemical pregnancy.

IVF #3 - May 2013

April 8th start BCP.  Keep taking baby aspirin.  

April 19th - start 5mg/day of dexamethasone (steroid) 

Starting weekly acupuncture April 19th.  

May 1st- blood test come back positive for hyperthyroidism.  STOP EVERYTHING.

Referral to endocrinologist.  Appointment on June 20th, 2013.  

Have a prescription for vitamin d and for propylthiouracil.  started June 26th.

Blood tests at the end of July and end of August to see if all is well.  

Doctor hinted I might be cleared to go back to IVF as soon as September.  

 

October 8th, thyroid is now fine.  Cleared to start IVF.

 

IVF #3.5 October 2013

Oct. 18th - start BCP, dexamethasone and baby aspirin.

Nov. 1st - start .5ml buserelin each night.

Nov. 4th - last BCP

Nov. 14th - 1st u/s.  

Nov. 27h - ER.  11 Eggs Retrieved.  

Nov. 28th- Embryo update:  12 eggs retrieved.  10 mature.  8 fertilized.  

Dec. 2nd 2 embryos transferred 5-d-t.  Also mild OHSS diagnosis.

Dec. 13th - Beta blood test.  BFN.

 

Done with IVFs.  

 


#11 KennyandFooty

KennyandFooty
  • Cyclebase
  • 1204 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Dx:Tubal
  • My Clinic:McGill Reproductive

Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:38 AM

Just to highlight a few points the others have mentioned (but I think Ebony really covered it all):

 

- As a patient of McGill, the public clinic, the wait times can be very long in between testing (wait listing for some preliminary investigations like HSG, etc) and cycling.

- As a patient of McGill however, I have not had to pay for a single thing out of pocket, including meds, except for the $10 ultrasound pictures I get now that I am pregnant.  It took 3 fresh IVF cycles and 2 frozen cycles for me to become pregnant though - a total of about 2.5 years of investigations, other tests, cycling, etc.\

- If you use a private clinic here, you will pay for a lot of the additional expenses (meds over 80% (which can be reimbursed with taxes), beta draws, ultrasounds - and then if you get pregnant, the private clinics will charge you for NT scan/bloodword, among other things)

- Semen analysis (if using a partner's specimen) costs $150 and will be one of the initial preliminary testing done.  If you are using Donor sperm, the costs can be much greater

- You will sign a form regarding any frozen embryos you may create.  They will remain in custody of the freezing clinic (and in Quebec, if your fresh cycle does not work - but results in frozen embryos - you MUST use the frozen embryos before moving on to another fresh cycle).  Something to keep in mind.

- You are covered in Quebec for 3 fresh cycles (plus any frozen cycles you may have).  If you are not successful after the 3rd attempt - coverage no longer captures you.

- You are restricted to transferring ONE embryo per transfer (unless extrenuating circumstances.  Few exceptions are made).

- Additional things, like PGD, are paid out of pocket and are not covered as part of the funded IVF cycle.  Things like ICSI and freezing are.

 

Hope this helps a bit more.

 

 

I think everything has been covered.  If you have a place to stay and


  • ebonyglare likes this

Me: 33 DH: 31
TTC 4+ years
Asthmatic - Bricanyl & Symbicort daily
Hydrosalpinges --> Bilateral Tubal removal


IVF#1 - September 2011 - Short protocol - Cancelled/Ectopic pregnancy; Tubal removal (October)
IVF#2 - March/April 2012 - Modified Microdose Flare Protocol - BFN - 3 frozen blasts
FET#1 - July 2012 - Cancelled; zero survive thaw
IVF#3 - October/November 2012 - Modified Microdose Flare Protocol - BFN - 3 frozen blasts
Hysteroscopy and Biopsy February 2013 - All results normal

FET#2 - BFP - March/April 2013 - EDD December 25, 2013

2 frosties waiting

January 1 - Our beautiful baby boy arrived after an emergency induction.  Completely in love! <3


#12 CatL

CatL
  • Cyclebase
  • 577 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Gatineau
  • Interests:Windsurfing, wakeboarding, skating, reading, cooking
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:OFC/MFC/Ovo

Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:43 PM

I think the other posts have given you some great points...I did wanted to bring one clarification. I don't know how old you are (although from your profile pic you look much younger than 37), but it is my understanding that the one embryo transfer rule only applies to woman that are less than 37 yrs old.  After the age of 37, the doctor can transfer two embryos without any special circumstances.


<p>Me: 36 (homozygous MTHFR + heterozygous Factor V Leiden) DH: 40 (slightly low morphology (7%))
May 2006 Natural pg - 1st M/C at 11 wks
Aug 2006 Natural pg - 2nd M/C at 8 wks
Dec 2006 Natural pg - DD born Sept 2007!!!

TTC #2 since Feb. 2009
IUI #1 May 2010 - BFN
IUI #2 June 2010 - BFN
IUI #3 Sept 2010 - BFN
IUI #4 Oct 2010 - BFN

IVF #1 - Long Protocol
Puregon 225iu, ER Feb. 23rd (8 total, 5 fert)
ET Feb. 26th (2x8cell grade 3), no frosties :-(
1st Beta Mar. 11th - 243!!!!
2nd Beta Mar. 14th - 667 :-)
1st u/s Mar. 28th - singleton measuring 6w5d and HB 118...Yippi!
2nd u/s Apr. 12th - no HB...3rd M/C at 9w2d :-(((

IVF #2 - Antagonist protocol
Day 3 u/s showed 14-15 follies
CD 3-6 2x2mg Estrogen daily, CD 6 start 100iu Puregon/75iu Repronex
ER - Aug. 31st, 2011 (12 eggs/10 mature, 9 fert)
ET - Sept. 4th, 2011 (sET grade 2 blast), no frosties :-(
Sept. 10 6dp5dt +HPT :-)))!
Sept. 15 beta = 9 :-(( Chemical Pg

IVF #3 - Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol - Dec. 2011
Estrace, 225 ui Gonal-F/75 ui Repronex
ER - Dec. 29th, 2011 (12 eggs/11 mature, 6 fert)
ET - Jan. 1st, 2012 (two 8 cells, grade 1), 2 frosties :-))
Jan. 8th 7dp3dt +HPT...Please let this be the one!!!
Jan. 13th 12dp3dt Beta 642, 15dp3dt Beta 3112
Feb. 3rd 7w1d u/s - Twins!! HBs 143 + 144
Mar. 9th NT scan (12w1d) - still 2 babies developing perfectly :-))

Our girls were born Sept.7th, 2012 (38 wks 1 day) weighing in at 6 lbs and 6 lbs 12 ounces!!<a href="http://lilypie.com/"><img src="http://lbdf.lilypie....com/z9eqm4.png" width="400" height="80" border="0" alt="Lilypie Pregnancy tickers" /></a>

#13 Lorien

Lorien
  • Member
  • 39 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Maple Ridge,BC
  • Interests:Being a French Immersion teacher, travel & skiing.
  • Dx:Endometriosis
  • My Clinic:Victoria Fertility Clinic

Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:12 AM

I;m also wondering if they are open to using some of the newer immunology protocols, I'm thinking specifically of intralipids, at McGill or the private clinics?

 


Me- 38 yers old/ Hubby- 44 years old
2000- Married (Hubby has great swimmers!)
2002- Endometriosis Diagnosis
2002-2012- Various Endo treatments
2009- Moved from Vancouver, BC to Abu Dhabi, UAE🇰🇼
2013- TTC (slightly cheaper and easier to access private services here than in Canada)
March 2013- HSG seems clear but questionable 
April 2013- IUI#1= BFN😥
May 2013- IUI#2= BFN😥
June- Sept 2013- Gonal-Peptyl protocol
Aug 2013- Bi-lateral hydrosalpinix = tubal cauterisation x2
Oct 2013- IVF#1- 2 grade AA , day 5 blasts + 1 ICSI/ 1normal + assisted hatching = BFP (Beta 100) Chemical😔
Dec 2013- IVF#2- 3 grade AA, day 5 blasts + assisted hatching= BFN (Beta 0) Not even a blip on the radar!😥
August 2014- Move back to Vancouver, Canada 🇨🇦
March 2015- Essure placed in right tube because the cauterisation had cleared.
Nov. 2015- stimming with cysts on both ovaries and very low FSH. 10 eggs retrieved, 5 grade 19-20 frozen for FET
March 2016- FET#1 with 1 day 5/ grade 18 blast + ICSI + Intralipids + Superfact + Medrol + Estrace + antibiotics + acupuncture + assisted hatching = FET#1 BFN 😤
May 2016- FET #2 with 2 day5/grade 18 already hatching blasts. Same protocol as previous FET#1 = FET#2 BFN😡
July-August FET cycle- started cycle on Superfect, estrace, medrol, antibiotics, endometrial biopsy, and no Intralipids (reaction during last cycle) - cycle canceled due to thin lining
August FET cycle- plan is to try Provera + Letrozol (Femara)

#14 Lisa1981

Lisa1981
  • Cyclebase
  • 1698 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Gatineau
  • Interests:Getting my sanity back
  • Dx:Endometriosis
  • My Clinic:N/A at the moment

Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:56 AM

I;m also wondering if they are open to using some of the newer immunology protocols, I'm thinking specifically of intralipids, at McGill or the private clinics?

 

Most of the RE's Iv'e seen do not believe in immunoligical disorder (causing IF) therefor will not treat you for them. Some may, but you would have to call the clinics and ask.

 

I know MFC does not deal with any immunological disorders since they do not believe immune issues have any impact on fertility.

 

Lisa


  • gibasgirl and Lorien like this

Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


#15 CdnHockeyGal

CdnHockeyGal
  • Super Moderator
  • 7094 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Winnipeg
  • Interests:Hockey, baseball & travel
  • Dx:Other
  • My Clinic:Several in Canada & US

Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:05 AM

You mentioned that you operate a Limited Company...have you considered opening a PHSP to deduct your medical expenses through your corporation?  I have a PHSP and will be running my ivf through the Corp...which is much less expensive than dividending out to myself...can't recall what the exact rate is on div income in BC but it's about 30% to dividend out in Manitoba and anytime you dividend out some tax will apply versus retaining the cost in the corp and being able to deduct it from your corp income taxes.  Should cost you more than apprx $300 to set up the PHSP.  You could look into this option via Blue Cross, Olympia or Serre Financial?


It was long, awful & hard. We got very lucky and didn't run out of both emotional and financial resources. We saw some of the most beautiful of people in our lowest moments. Baby Girl arrived Apr 10/2018

#16 Cloud992

Cloud992
  • Global 100+
  • 359 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Sherbrooke, QC
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:Procrea / CHUS

Posted 18 January 2014 - 04:14 PM

I live in Quebec and it really bugs me when I hear or read that our health care is "free". It's not free. We just decided to socialize the costs. Each year, i pay more than 55% of my income in income taxes! That's not even counting our high sales tax (> 15% combined) on everything, municipal taxes, our very high "special" taxes on houses, gas, wine, etc., and so forth.

I pay these taxes gladly because I believe in paying our share for the society but, to be honest, if I compare what I paid during the past 10 years in income taxes alone compared to some other provinces or the States, I could easily have afforded more than 20 fresh ivf cycles out of pocket!

Sorry for the vent! :-)
  • gibasgirl, Heregoesnothing, ociwoman and 5 others like this

Me: 39 DOR; DH: 42 no problem

TTC since Dec. 2010 

 

IUI #1 - oct/nov. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #2 - nov/dec. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #3 - dec/jan. 2012-13. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

Break (3 months in Europe)

IUI #4 - May/june. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #5 - June. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #6 - July/aug. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene).BFN

 

IVF #1 - sept. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide) - aborted on sept. 9th b/c not enough mature follies - converted into IUI. BFN

 

IUI #7 - sept/oct. 2013. Natural IUI (to give ovaries a break). BFN

 

IVF #2 - oct/nov. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide)

nov. 6 - ER: 6 eggs! (excited because doctor could only see 3 mature follies on 2D u/s and almost aborted the protocol).

nov. 11 - ET 1 5-day blast (+ 2 frosties)

10dp5dt - BFP on hpt (definitely not an hallucination)!! BFP

11dp5dt - beta = 232

14dp5dt - beta = 983 (my clinic only does 1 beta test but I asked for another b/c I was very nervous.
5w2d: went to the clinic b/c sharp pain on left side for past 18 hours. RE can't confirm uterine pregnancy on u/s b/c too early. Beta = 3800.

5w4d: 2nd u/s to try to rule out ectopic.  RE can see a sac in my uterus!  Beta = 6507.

Dec. 10 (6w6d): viability u/s. Saw hb (don't know heart rate) and bean measuring 6w5d and 0.78 cm.  

Jan. 17 (12w2d): NT scan. Everything is good.  NT is normal.

Jan. 28 (13w6d): Harmony test results excellent (risk < 1/10,000). We're having a girl!!

March 10 (19w5d): Anatomy scan.  Everything looks perfect!  

May 27 (30w6d): Monthly OB appointment.  Fundal height at 27cm only (should be 31).  Growth scan scheduled.

June 3 (31w6d): Growth scan. Everything looks normal but baby is small: all her measurements are in the 20th percentile or below.

June 25 (35w): OB appointment. Fundal height at 31cm.

July 14 2014 (37w5d): baby Ellie is born at 5 lbs 5 oz. 

 

Trying for baby #2:

FET #1 - aug/sept. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin)

sept. 18 - ET of a 5-day blast

sept. 29 - beta... BFN 

 

FET #2 - nov/dec. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin) - last frozen embryo

dec. 3 - ET of a 5-day blast

dec. 14 - beta... BFN 

 

IVF #3 - april 2016 (gonal-f 450; luveris 150)

april 12 - cancelled cycle because only 1 growing follicle (converted into IUI)

april 15 - IUI... BFN

 

IVF #4 - july/aug. 2016 (Co-Q10 and DHEA until then)

 


#17 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:52 PM

Well, I know this is an older thread, but we just got back from a vacation in Montreal, and we fell in love with the place as my Mom did when she lived there for four years in the 70s.  

Definitely want to keep up to date on this topic.  This is one of the main positive points of moving there for us.

This thread linked below had me nervous, as I hear changes are afoot/being discussed:

https://ivf.ca/forums...ding-in-quebec/


See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#18 Cloud992

Cloud992
  • Global 100+
  • 359 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Sherbrooke, QC
  • Dx:Unexplained
  • My Clinic:Procrea / CHUS

Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:34 PM

Yeah Montreal is amazing.  I lived there for 30 years!

 

Regarding the IVF and ART program, from what I understand, they will mostly make some changes in terms of elligibility.  I'm not sure yet how they'll do that but they will probably add a few conditions to be elligible (e.g. age, type of infertility, income, etc.).

 

I also know there is some debate over the use of surrogate mothers because some people think it's a type of exploitation. So they might also make some changes when surrogate mothers are needed. 

 

Overall, there is a lot of uncertainty surrounding the program but I'm pretty sure it's here to stay in its basic form, with maybe a few adjustments.


Me: 39 DOR; DH: 42 no problem

TTC since Dec. 2010 

 

IUI #1 - oct/nov. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #2 - nov/dec. 2012. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #3 - dec/jan. 2012-13. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

Break (3 months in Europe)

IUI #4 - May/june. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #5 - June. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene). BFN

IUI #6 - July/aug. 2013. Stimulated IUI (with gonal-f and serophene).BFN

 

IVF #1 - sept. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide) - aborted on sept. 9th b/c not enough mature follies - converted into IUI. BFN

 

IUI #7 - sept/oct. 2013. Natural IUI (to give ovaries a break). BFN

 

IVF #2 - oct/nov. 2013. Antagonist protocol (gonal-f, Luveris, Cetrotide)

nov. 6 - ER: 6 eggs! (excited because doctor could only see 3 mature follies on 2D u/s and almost aborted the protocol).

nov. 11 - ET 1 5-day blast (+ 2 frosties)

10dp5dt - BFP on hpt (definitely not an hallucination)!! BFP

11dp5dt - beta = 232

14dp5dt - beta = 983 (my clinic only does 1 beta test but I asked for another b/c I was very nervous.
5w2d: went to the clinic b/c sharp pain on left side for past 18 hours. RE can't confirm uterine pregnancy on u/s b/c too early. Beta = 3800.

5w4d: 2nd u/s to try to rule out ectopic.  RE can see a sac in my uterus!  Beta = 6507.

Dec. 10 (6w6d): viability u/s. Saw hb (don't know heart rate) and bean measuring 6w5d and 0.78 cm.  

Jan. 17 (12w2d): NT scan. Everything is good.  NT is normal.

Jan. 28 (13w6d): Harmony test results excellent (risk < 1/10,000). We're having a girl!!

March 10 (19w5d): Anatomy scan.  Everything looks perfect!  

May 27 (30w6d): Monthly OB appointment.  Fundal height at 27cm only (should be 31).  Growth scan scheduled.

June 3 (31w6d): Growth scan. Everything looks normal but baby is small: all her measurements are in the 20th percentile or below.

June 25 (35w): OB appointment. Fundal height at 31cm.

July 14 2014 (37w5d): baby Ellie is born at 5 lbs 5 oz. 

 

Trying for baby #2:

FET #1 - aug/sept. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin)

sept. 18 - ET of a 5-day blast

sept. 29 - beta... BFN 

 

FET #2 - nov/dec. 2015 (estrace, aspirin and vibramycin) - last frozen embryo

dec. 3 - ET of a 5-day blast

dec. 14 - beta... BFN 

 

IVF #3 - april 2016 (gonal-f 450; luveris 150)

april 12 - cancelled cycle because only 1 growing follicle (converted into IUI)

april 15 - IUI... BFN

 

IVF #4 - july/aug. 2016 (Co-Q10 and DHEA until then)

 


#19 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 08 October 2014 - 12:03 AM

Ah, OK.  I'm 35, fiance will be 40 the end of November.  Severely low sperm count.  I currently make 30K a yr now, I think he makes about $25K.  It looks like I'm still ovulating.  Our naturopath is going to see if she can increase his sperm count, but I'm a little selfish and want to try to have a spring/summer baby, so we may get a sperm donor to help us with our first this coming cycle, the middle of the month.  We have a known donor, fiance is on board since he has resigned himself to being infertile.

 

If I have a child that way, and then the naturopath helps us discover the key to increasing fiance's sperm, great for next time!  If not, then hopefully I can explain in Montreal that this one was conceived before we got married, and not biologically his.  I'm sure that would be reason enough, to try to have one biological one of his own.  If I don't conceive before (if) his sperm build up, we may have a screaming infant in the winter, and I won't be able to take him or her for a walk (or be able to enjoy next summer not in a call centre), but at least he or she will biologically be ours.


See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#20 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 26 October 2014 - 02:26 PM

I have someone telling me in my local clinic Facebook group that one *actually* must live in QC for one year and be paying taxes to be considered eligible for coverage for this.

Any truth to this?

See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#21 JacMac

JacMac
  • Cyclebase
  • 1937 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Fort McMurray
  • Dx:PCOS
  • My Clinic:RFP/Adoption By Choice

Posted 26 October 2014 - 11:15 PM

It would probably make sense to prevent people from taking advantage of their health care system.
  • Meary likes this
Me - now 36 Him - 37
Trying to conceive since our wedding day May 25, 2008.
Started Clomid Jan-April 2012.
Referred to RFP June 2012.
First consult at RFP November 2012.
First IVF cycle on antagonist protocol (GonalF, Luveris) January 2013.
Transferred two day-3 embryos, had severe OHSS, lost one twin between 7-13 weeks but was expecting one little one October 2013.
Found out at 6 mos that our little one had died weeks earlier and had to induce and deliver stillborn, July 25, 2013.
Something found on adrenal gland at follow up ultrasound, MRI showed what seems to be a benign tumor. Meeting with specialist Jan 8, 2014 - all fertility treatments on hold. :/
Tumour is definitely producing Aldosterone (causes high blood pressure) and Cortisol. Lucky me, only 34 similar cases recorded in the world! Tumour removed May 2014.
Approached about a possible adoption March 2014. Rush through all the paperwork and process.
Charlotte Evangeline born June 27, 2014. We brought her home on July 7 and held our breath for 10 days until she officially became ours.
Surprise BFP October 2014. Due to wonky cycles, ultrasounds convince Doctors I have a blighted ovum but detailed ultrasound reveals heartbeat at 6w3d. On progesterone support and waiting to see if pregnancy is still viable. Holding our breath again.
Adalyn Marie born on June 9, 2014 after a roller coaster pregnancy.

#22 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 27 October 2014 - 08:40 AM

True. So I guess my only hope since I will be 36 in March is naturopath bringing up fiancé's sperm count (if she can) or getting a live donor for our first.

Between that year and the possible wait list, our time is running out. If we move to Montreal we don't plan on moving back anytime soon.

See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#23 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 17 November 2014 - 08:31 PM

http://montrealgazet...ould-be-looming

 

Devastating.


See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#24 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 17 November 2014 - 09:01 PM

http://www.ctvnews.c...-back-1.2090040

So that's that.  I think we can prove we need it, but I feel bad for women who couldn't find Mr. Right, and the same sex couples who have to pay out the wazoo. :(


See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.


#25 MandyA

MandyA
  • Member
  • 54 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Dx:Male Factor
  • My Clinic:AART

Posted 28 November 2014 - 01:44 PM

Yep.  Here is the nail in the coffin.  Pending the bill passing, but I don't doubt it will, the ones who will vote are the fertile majority.

They are not funding it anymore.  But they will force women under 37 to only transfer one embryo at a time, and they can have one more cycle covered if they're over 37.  

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...-bill-1.2853715

The comments to the article all but one are destroying me.  If you haven't had infertility, you don't know.  th_agrr.gif 

cry.gif


See my "About Me" page.  smile.png 

Help us afford IVF: http://www.youcaring.com/roys

 

I have a Fertility Feelings Facebook group:  https://www.facebook...47599005269377/
 

TL:DR: I'm 38.  Husband's 42.

 

Husband had seminoma (testicular cancer) at 27, orchiectomy of one, no chemo first time, all gone as of 2009 CT scan.
 

Began dating July 2012.

 

Targeting fertile window since July 2013, had a donated vial of sperm for an unmedicated IUI (2015) and several informal private known donors, all unsuccessful so far.

 

Married July 4th, 2016.

 

Discovered seminoma recurred Jan 2017 in his abdomen. Had chemo in April 2017. Tumor shrunk significantly.

 

Diagnosis: Severely low sperm count, and now sterile indefinitely due to chemo.

 

 

We have 8 vials of sperm frozen at the local clinic. Considering a move to QC or ON for at least partial funding, or looking at mini IVF.






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: quebec, move, coverage, funding