Hello Dr. Hollands,
Was just wondering what your thoughts were on Two day Vs. Three day transfer of embryos.
Is it not better to wait for the three day? What are the chances of achieveing pregancy with a two day blast?
I look forward to hearing from you
Thank you,
August
Two day vs. Three day Transfer
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, Nov 22 2010 02:44 PM
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:44 PM
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:55 PM
I have always done a day 3 transfer but now my RE wants to do a day 5 because he feels it predicts better embryos .... so if day 5's are "better" then day 3's then I would assume day 3's are "better" then day 2's - but honestly I dont know the correct answer.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:50 PM
I don't think one is necessarily better than the other but the further along the embryo grows the better you can "select" a good embryo to transfer. You could have a beatiful looking embryo on day 3 but it arrests on day 4 but a not so good looking one will go in to day 5. I think it has more to do with picking the most viable embryo and the best way to do that is to see which ones make it to 5 day blast. That being said, there is also a school of thought that the embryo does better inside the body than outside so getting them back quickly is the norm. I only had 2 on day and did not feel comfortable going to day 5 in case they both arrested and then I would have nothing to transfer. I had previously transferred (3) 3 day embryos and (2) 5 day frozen blasts, all were unsuccessful.
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 05:01 PM
If the number of embryos that you have to choose from exceeds what you are willing to transfer, going longer may make sense as more info exists on their quality the longer you go.
As for me, I just had 7 eggs retrieved (don't know fert. yet) and I can transfer up to 6 on day 3. Or 4 blasts on day 5. I wish someone could tell me which way is better to go. My RE will lean towards putting whatever is left back in on day 3, but would let me choose if I prefer. If I had a guarantee that a good egg couldn't die off before day 5 because it didn't like the culture, I'd go to day 5 so that more of the aneploid embryos could die off first...and hopefully make a miscarriage less likely. And I wouldn't have to go through a 2ww unless there was something worth tranferring in. In answering August's question, Dr. Holland, if you have any other input to add, it'd be appreciated...
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As for me, I just had 7 eggs retrieved (don't know fert. yet) and I can transfer up to 6 on day 3. Or 4 blasts on day 5. I wish someone could tell me which way is better to go. My RE will lean towards putting whatever is left back in on day 3, but would let me choose if I prefer. If I had a guarantee that a good egg couldn't die off before day 5 because it didn't like the culture, I'd go to day 5 so that more of the aneploid embryos could die off first...and hopefully make a miscarriage less likely. And I wouldn't have to go through a 2ww unless there was something worth tranferring in. In answering August's question, Dr. Holland, if you have any other input to add, it'd be appreciated...
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Hello Dr. Hollands,
Was just wondering what your thoughts were on Two day Vs. Three day transfer of embryos.
Is it not better to wait for the three day? What are the chances of achieveing pregancy with a two day blast?
I look forward to hearing from you
Thank you,
August
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April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
First Beta Day 15 from LMP was 851, Beta 4, 19 days post ovulation 5382
7wk US showed a heartbeat of 150! 9 wk US HB 185
May 19 2012 DS is born!!
TTC from March 2009-March 2011 before DB had arrived on the scene
About 9 IUIs, 3 IVFs total
2 pregnancies with 7 week miscarriage requiring D&C
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April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 01:26 PM
Wow .... putting in that many embryos is something that I havent heard of in Canada.
I have only ever heard of 2-3 being transferred TOPS!
I have only ever heard of 2-3 being transferred TOPS!
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 02:24 PM
I think that mother nature may decide for me. 6 of 7 fertilized, but two "look a little bit granular".
I'm wishing for 4 good ones so I don't have to make any decisions about whether I feel ok about transferring 6...
I'm wishing for 4 good ones so I don't have to make any decisions about whether I feel ok about transferring 6...
Wow .... putting in that many embryos is something that I havent heard of in Canada.
I have only ever heard of 2-3 being transferred TOPS!
Me: 44 (sigh) DB is 40 (Dear boyfriend!)
TTC from March 2009-March 2011 before DB had arrived on the scene
About 9 IUIs, 3 IVFs total
2 pregnancies with 7 week miscarriage requiring D&C
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April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
First Beta Day 15 from LMP was 851, Beta 4, 19 days post ovulation 5382
7wk US showed a heartbeat of 150! 9 wk US HB 185
May 19 2012 DS is born!!
TTC from March 2009-March 2011 before DB had arrived on the scene
About 9 IUIs, 3 IVFs total
2 pregnancies with 7 week miscarriage requiring D&C
2 chemical pregnancies
April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
First Beta Day 15 from LMP was 851, Beta 4, 19 days post ovulation 5382
7wk US showed a heartbeat of 150! 9 wk US HB 185
May 19 2012 DS is born!!
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 03:36 PM
Hello Dr. Hollands,
Was just wondering what your thoughts were on Two day Vs. Three day transfer of embryos.
Day 2 and 3 can produce good results, it really all depemds on the clinic.
Is it not better to wait for the three day?
In terms of embryo selection possibly but then again others argue that it is better to get the embryos back to the uterus as soon as possible
What are the chances of achieveing pregancy with a two day blast?
Blastocysts take 4-5 days(sometimes 6 days) to form so a day 2 blastocyst isn't possible. Many clinics have excellent results with blastocyst transfer.
Good luck!
Peter
I look forward to hearing from you
Thank you,
August
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:29 PM
Well, when push came to shove, my RE apparently no longer was too happy to put 6 in either...maybe they'd have had to be poorer quality for him to proceed. 4 went in yesterday, and 2 went for vitrification....
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Wow .... putting in that many embryos is something that I havent heard of in Canada.
I have only ever heard of 2-3 being transferred TOPS!
Me: 44 (sigh) DB is 40 (Dear boyfriend!)
TTC from March 2009-March 2011 before DB had arrived on the scene
About 9 IUIs, 3 IVFs total
2 pregnancies with 7 week miscarriage requiring D&C
2 chemical pregnancies
April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
First Beta Day 15 from LMP was 851, Beta 4, 19 days post ovulation 5382
7wk US showed a heartbeat of 150! 9 wk US HB 185
May 19 2012 DS is born!!
TTC from March 2009-March 2011 before DB had arrived on the scene
About 9 IUIs, 3 IVFs total
2 pregnancies with 7 week miscarriage requiring D&C
2 chemical pregnancies
April 2011 began a relationship now with a wonderful guy with an 8 year old son.
Sept 2011 Natural BFP while trying not to conceive (how ironic)
First Beta Day 15 from LMP was 851, Beta 4, 19 days post ovulation 5382
7wk US showed a heartbeat of 150! 9 wk US HB 185
May 19 2012 DS is born!!
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 12:51 AM
My clinic in Melbourne routinely does 2 day transfers with plenty of success. x E
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Nov 2008 IVF#1 BFN
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IVF/ICSI#3 Antagonist protocol March 2009. BFP. Thank you God.
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u/s # 1 a singleton, perfect measurements and heartbeat.
u/s # 2 healthy growth plus second sac sighted. 'vanishing twin syndrome'
u/s # 3 at 9 weeks - all good. Baby waved.
u/s # 4 (love those ultrasounds) 10.5 weeks Baby scratched it's ear and did the twist.
NT scan at 12 weeks two days - all good. No need for further testing. IT'S A BOY!
20 week morphology scan and all is well.
EDD August 21st 2010
Waters broke 19th Aug
Induced on Aug 20
DS born 4.29pm Aug 20, 2010
Our joy Jan 2014, DE cycle Zlin, CZ Feb 7 Beta positive
