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#1 blueberries

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:37 PM

Hi Everyone,

Has anyone tried the acupuncture on the day of embryo transfer (pre/post) at PCRM?
I just started my first IVF cycle and I am still debating if it is worth the try.
I know that some people go to Acubalance to get the treatment, but I don't know if they do this on site at PCRM.
Any thoughts?
me 30; DH 30
Stage 4 Endo with one blocked tube

1 Lap, Jun09; only 20% removed
3 month Lurpon depot
IVF #1: Nov09
ER Nov 10/09; 24 retrieved, 15 fertilized
ET Nov 15/09; transferred one 4AB embryo + froze two on day 5 and two on day 6
beta Nov 24/09 = BFN

FET #1: Feb10 = BFP - TWINs
Oct10 - Welcome to the world, two little blueberries!!!

#2 ~*Megan*~

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:46 PM

I would look under the Acupuncture section on the forum. I found lots of helpful info there.
Good luck :)
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Sept 2007-2008 - Trying au natural - When it was fun ;)
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July 2009 - IUI #3 - Changed to timed BD...CD10 (July 10th) Only one good follicle, 2.2 I think, chose timed BD instead of IUI#3, due to only one follicle - we are going to try "au natural " this cycle - BFN again...
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#3 Aja

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:21 PM

I don't believe they do on site at PCRM. I traveled to my acupuncturist in Langley for it pre/post transfer.
Me: 38 DH: 42
TTC 11 yrs
PCOS, Endometriosis, male factor, thyroid
5 yrs trying natural, Clomid, etc.
4 failed IUI
2 laps
IVF/ICSI - 2003
U/S - twins!
14 wks - miscarry one
Feb.2 04 beautiful baby boy!

IVF#2 - BFN

Waiting for a big bag of money to fall from the sky and land on my lawn so that we can try again.

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 08:03 PM

We did acupuncture pre/post egg retrieval at Accubalance in Vancouver while doing IVF at PCRM. They will come to the clinic directly if you wish, but we elected to go to their office instead. They were great and we did have a successful cycle. Good luck to you!

#5 blueberries

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 10:41 PM

Thanks so much Ladies.
I asked the clinic and got the number to the acupuncturist who does it on site.
I still haven't decided whether or not I should do it (since i never done this and I don't know what to expect from it)...
me 30; DH 30
Stage 4 Endo with one blocked tube

1 Lap, Jun09; only 20% removed
3 month Lurpon depot
IVF #1: Nov09
ER Nov 10/09; 24 retrieved, 15 fertilized
ET Nov 15/09; transferred one 4AB embryo + froze two on day 5 and two on day 6
beta Nov 24/09 = BFN

FET #1: Feb10 = BFP - TWINs
Oct10 - Welcome to the world, two little blueberries!!!

#6 Aja

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:06 AM

It actually feels pretty neat. It's incredibly relaxing and if done well, you can really feel it working.
Me: 38 DH: 42
TTC 11 yrs
PCOS, Endometriosis, male factor, thyroid
5 yrs trying natural, Clomid, etc.
4 failed IUI
2 laps
IVF/ICSI - 2003
U/S - twins!
14 wks - miscarry one
Feb.2 04 beautiful baby boy!

IVF#2 - BFN

Waiting for a big bag of money to fall from the sky and land on my lawn so that we can try again.

#7 FuzzyFur

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 06:17 PM

Blueberries - I would DEFINITELY do it. It will do no harm and there is increasing evidence that having acupuncture before and after ET can help in a positive outcome. I go to a great person who is located at Broadway & Alma in Vancouver - her clinic is called AromaOasis Health. She's been my practitioner for all of my fertility treatments, and treated my husband as well. If you can go a couple of times in the weeks leading up to your transfer that is a good idea too. Acupuncture can help you achieve a thick lining and, for me anyway, gives an opportunity to relax and really put your focus on your body.

Wishing you much success!

:) jen
Me:39 DH:40
TTC since Aug 2005
Male Factor - Embolization Surgery Jan 2007 - didn't work

IVF #1 - Start Synarel Aug 22/07
Sept 17/07 - ER!!!!!!!! 16 eggs retrieved - all ICSI

Sept 18/07 - 15 eggs injected - 7 embrios (grow embies grow!)
Sept 20/07 - ET - 10am - 2 beautliful 8-cell Grade 1 embrios!
Oct 05/07 - 15dp3dt BFP!! - Beta 1100
Oct 13/07 - 2nd Beta 15717!!!
Oct 19/07 - 1st U/S (6w4d) - 1 healthy baby - 120pbm!
Nov 26/07 - 1st Prenatal visit - Heartbeat 154bpm
Jan 30/08 - Ultrasound! (21w2d)
DUE DATE - June 10, 2008


June 23/08 - Griffin Patrick is here! 8lbs 5oz - 22 inches long

June 9/09-Here we go again! FET#1
July 17/09 - CYCLE CANCELLED - not responding to meds[/color]
Aug 15/09 - FET#1 - round 2!
Sept 1 - ET - welcome home frosties!
Sept 15 - 14dp5dt BFP!! - Beta 957 - wooohooo!
Oct 9 - 7w6d - u/s # 2 - no growth....this one is over


IVF/ICSI #2 (Flare protocol)
Nov 16/09 - CD3 b/w & u/s - start Superfact injections
Nov 18/09 - CD5 - start stims - E2 116 - 200iu Puregon
Nov 20/09 - CD7 - E2 2209 - 125iu Puregon
Nov 23/09 - CD10 - E2 14094 - no stims, Superfact only
Nov 24/09 - CD11 - E2 15963 - no stims, no Superfact
Nov 25/09 - CD12 - E2 11780 - hcg trigger 9pm
Nov 27/09 - ER - 11 eggs retrieved - all ICSI
Nov 28/09 - 6 eggs fertilized - grow embies, grow!
Nov 30/09 - ET - Grade2, 10-cell & Grade3, 8-cell
Dec 14/09 - 14dp3dt BFP!! Beta 550 (cautiously optimistic)
Dec 21/09 - 21dp3dt - Beta 8031 - YAY!
Jan 08/10 - 8 weeks - u/s - one healthy bean h/b 167bpm
DUE DATE - Aug 20, 2010

Sept 1/10 - Declan James is here! 7lbs 15 3/4oz - 20 inches long

Are there any more in our future??? 1 frostie remains

#8 Heather S

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 06:23 PM

Acubalance does go to PCRM, if they have the practitioners available. It all depends on the number of people transferring on that day at each clinic. So if they have many at Genesis and only you at PCRM on that day, then favour goes to Genesis. PCRM does make up a room for you to do the acupuncture there if you need it. You just have to give them a heads up that this is what you will be doing. I've had to go to Acubalance's office for my transfers since they weren't able to accomodate PCRM on those particular days. Personally, I think they favour Genesis and may be contracted to them, not sure. There are alot of studies that support it. Plus it gives you an opportunity to just relax and focus on your body & those little embies on such a stressful day. Best of luck in whatever you decide.

me 40; DH 41 PCOS + Male Factor

ICSI #1: Apr/May09ER
Apr 30/09; 24 retrieved, 21 mature, 17 fertilized
ET May 5/09; transferred two 2BB embryos + froze two (a 4BB and a 4BA) on day 6
beta May 14/09 = BFP! (99, 147, 299)
u/s #1 7.7mm & 123hbpm u/s #2 9weeks - everything looks good
7/13/09 missed miscarriage identified at 12 week appt . hb stopped @ 9w4d.

FET #1 Oct 29/09
transferred 2 (4bb and 4ba)
Beta Nov 7/09 = BFP hcg:55. Beta #2 = 84. Beta #3 = 151; Beta #4 = 1424
u/s #1 160bpm and 8.7mm;
EDD July 17, 2010
u/s #2 178bpm and 2.46cm
Baby girl Hailey Denae born July 21st 2010

ICSI #2: Nov/Dec12 Here we go again! Antagonist protocol this time around.
300 bravelle 150 menopure Baseline Nov 22nd.
Start stims Nov 23rd. Est Retrieval Dec 4-6 and Est Transfer Dec 9-11
after 3 days of stims e2=1604, s/b 500-700. yikes! E2 levelled off.
ER Dec 3/12; 14 Retrieved, 9 Fertilized
ET Dec 8/12; 4AA & 2BB transferred, froze 4BB and 3BB on day 6
Beta Dec 17/12 9dp5dt = 64. Beta #2 11dp5dt = 68. Beta #3 13dp5dt = 101. Beta #4 15dp5dt = 178. Beta #5 19dp5dt=493. 
Heartbeat at 6w u/s.  No heartbeat at 7w u/s.  Miscarriage, again

FET March 27/13 One blast didn't make it, the other hadn't fluffed up before transfer. BFN

We're done with ART and will be a happy family of 3.


#9 blueberries

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 12:58 AM

Thanks again everyone..
I left a message at acubalance, but they never got back to me. I already booked the date with the acupunturist from pcrm, so that's fine, i guess,,,
We'll see how it goes...(i figure it wouldn't really hurt anyways)
me 30; DH 30
Stage 4 Endo with one blocked tube

1 Lap, Jun09; only 20% removed
3 month Lurpon depot
IVF #1: Nov09
ER Nov 10/09; 24 retrieved, 15 fertilized
ET Nov 15/09; transferred one 4AB embryo + froze two on day 5 and two on day 6
beta Nov 24/09 = BFN

FET #1: Feb10 = BFP - TWINs
Oct10 - Welcome to the world, two little blueberries!!!

#10 FuzzyFur

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:13 AM

Good Luck blueberries - I hope it works for you!

:) Jen
Me:39 DH:40
TTC since Aug 2005
Male Factor - Embolization Surgery Jan 2007 - didn't work

IVF #1 - Start Synarel Aug 22/07
Sept 17/07 - ER!!!!!!!! 16 eggs retrieved - all ICSI

Sept 18/07 - 15 eggs injected - 7 embrios (grow embies grow!)
Sept 20/07 - ET - 10am - 2 beautliful 8-cell Grade 1 embrios!
Oct 05/07 - 15dp3dt BFP!! - Beta 1100
Oct 13/07 - 2nd Beta 15717!!!
Oct 19/07 - 1st U/S (6w4d) - 1 healthy baby - 120pbm!
Nov 26/07 - 1st Prenatal visit - Heartbeat 154bpm
Jan 30/08 - Ultrasound! (21w2d)
DUE DATE - June 10, 2008


June 23/08 - Griffin Patrick is here! 8lbs 5oz - 22 inches long

June 9/09-Here we go again! FET#1
July 17/09 - CYCLE CANCELLED - not responding to meds[/color]
Aug 15/09 - FET#1 - round 2!
Sept 1 - ET - welcome home frosties!
Sept 15 - 14dp5dt BFP!! - Beta 957 - wooohooo!
Oct 9 - 7w6d - u/s # 2 - no growth....this one is over


IVF/ICSI #2 (Flare protocol)
Nov 16/09 - CD3 b/w & u/s - start Superfact injections
Nov 18/09 - CD5 - start stims - E2 116 - 200iu Puregon
Nov 20/09 - CD7 - E2 2209 - 125iu Puregon
Nov 23/09 - CD10 - E2 14094 - no stims, Superfact only
Nov 24/09 - CD11 - E2 15963 - no stims, no Superfact
Nov 25/09 - CD12 - E2 11780 - hcg trigger 9pm
Nov 27/09 - ER - 11 eggs retrieved - all ICSI
Nov 28/09 - 6 eggs fertilized - grow embies, grow!
Nov 30/09 - ET - Grade2, 10-cell & Grade3, 8-cell
Dec 14/09 - 14dp3dt BFP!! Beta 550 (cautiously optimistic)
Dec 21/09 - 21dp3dt - Beta 8031 - YAY!
Jan 08/10 - 8 weeks - u/s - one healthy bean h/b 167bpm
DUE DATE - Aug 20, 2010

Sept 1/10 - Declan James is here! 7lbs 15 3/4oz - 20 inches long

Are there any more in our future??? 1 frostie remains

#11 Snow White

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:30 PM

i had my acupuncturist from Acubalance coming out to PCRM for the before and after ET session. PCRM was great, the way they accomodated us! they were truly wonderful!
DH: 35; Me: 34
TTC: April 2008
IVF w/ICSI #1
Lupron start Oct 3
last BCP day Oct 7
stimulation starts: Oct 16
ER: moved up from Oct 27-29 to October 26!!!
ER: 14 good looking follicles retreived
Day 1: all 14 matured and fertilized
Day 2: all 14 have 2-4 cells; 4-grade 1, 8-grade 2; 2-grade 3! grow embies grow!!!
Day 3: 9 embies are 8-9 cells, 5 embies are a bit slower, but they are all looking good :-)
Day 4: 9 of them have grown to morula stage, remaining 5 is still a bit slower
Day 5: ET day! Oct 31, 2009 - my little football team is somewhere between morula and blastocyst stage; 2 good looking ones transferred
Day 6: clinic froze 2 - 4BB and 1 - 3BA
1st beta: Nov 9,'09 - 9dp5dt: 185! - BFP!!!! YAY!!! can't believe it!!!!!
2nd beta: Nov 12,'09 - 12dp5dt: 638!!!!!
First u/s: Dec. 3 - TWO little guys!!! Baby A 0.92 cm w/heartbeat of 148.48 bpm; Baby B 0.87cm w/heartbeat of 145 bpm
2nd u/s: Dec.12 - both heartbeats @ 175bpm; they were both sleeping and when i laughed they woke up and wiggled their arms & legs; sooo cute
June 23, 2010 - scheduled C-section. Baby A is breached. oh yes, we are having two boys! YAY!


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#12 blueberries

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:35 PM

Thanks Jen, and snowwhite, congrats on your BFP!!! that's awesome.

I went to see my acupuncturist today first time, and I didn't feel any difference after.. Is it good or bad?
I still have cramps, bloating, and indigestion since the ER, and I am really hoping that my stomach will settle down by the time of ET (I feel pretty miserable with all the discomforts - if I were the embryo, I wouldn't want to stay in my body either...) :(
me 30; DH 30
Stage 4 Endo with one blocked tube

1 Lap, Jun09; only 20% removed
3 month Lurpon depot
IVF #1: Nov09
ER Nov 10/09; 24 retrieved, 15 fertilized
ET Nov 15/09; transferred one 4AB embryo + froze two on day 5 and two on day 6
beta Nov 24/09 = BFN

FET #1: Feb10 = BFP - TWINs
Oct10 - Welcome to the world, two little blueberries!!!

#13 Snow White

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 10:37 PM

sorry to hear that you feel miserable. the "good" news is that your sore ovaries will settle in a few weeks, the bad news is that your belly will get even more bloated from the progesteron. unfortunately, there is a lose-lose situation here... except the end result, which will be your baby in your arms... :th_abighug:
DH: 35; Me: 34
TTC: April 2008
IVF w/ICSI #1
Lupron start Oct 3
last BCP day Oct 7
stimulation starts: Oct 16
ER: moved up from Oct 27-29 to October 26!!!
ER: 14 good looking follicles retreived
Day 1: all 14 matured and fertilized
Day 2: all 14 have 2-4 cells; 4-grade 1, 8-grade 2; 2-grade 3! grow embies grow!!!
Day 3: 9 embies are 8-9 cells, 5 embies are a bit slower, but they are all looking good :-)
Day 4: 9 of them have grown to morula stage, remaining 5 is still a bit slower
Day 5: ET day! Oct 31, 2009 - my little football team is somewhere between morula and blastocyst stage; 2 good looking ones transferred
Day 6: clinic froze 2 - 4BB and 1 - 3BA
1st beta: Nov 9,'09 - 9dp5dt: 185! - BFP!!!! YAY!!! can't believe it!!!!!
2nd beta: Nov 12,'09 - 12dp5dt: 638!!!!!
First u/s: Dec. 3 - TWO little guys!!! Baby A 0.92 cm w/heartbeat of 148.48 bpm; Baby B 0.87cm w/heartbeat of 145 bpm
2nd u/s: Dec.12 - both heartbeats @ 175bpm; they were both sleeping and when i laughed they woke up and wiggled their arms & legs; sooo cute
June 23, 2010 - scheduled C-section. Baby A is breached. oh yes, we are having two boys! YAY!


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#14 blueberries

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 03:57 AM

Thanks Snow white. I am actually feeling much better now. Actually I think the acupuncture helped ease the pain a lot. I would definitely do it again.... :)
me 30; DH 30
Stage 4 Endo with one blocked tube

1 Lap, Jun09; only 20% removed
3 month Lurpon depot
IVF #1: Nov09
ER Nov 10/09; 24 retrieved, 15 fertilized
ET Nov 15/09; transferred one 4AB embryo + froze two on day 5 and two on day 6
beta Nov 24/09 = BFN

FET #1: Feb10 = BFP - TWINs
Oct10 - Welcome to the world, two little blueberries!!!