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#1 flybywire

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  • Location:Durham Region, ON
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  • My Clinic:Rouge Valley

Posted 17 August 2009 - 11:18 PM

Hi everyone,

Need your opinion on something. My DH and I just recently had a baby in Nov. 2008 who was lost during the c-section. Healthy pregnancy, healthy baby. DH and I started TTC 9 cycles ago only to discover now that he has low count. His first SA was 14 mil, second was 8 mil, 65% motility and morphology was poor. (Werent' given the # but he was sent for a ton of blood work checking for chromosomal abnormalities etc).

I just don't understand. He was able to get me pregnant 2x last year and we had a healthy baby (had he lived). Now all of a sudden there's male factor.

The numbers are low for IUI but it was still suggested to us by our FS. I don't know if I'd want to waste money knowing that we'd have less than 4 mil sperm perhaps after the sperm is washed. We don't have the financial resources for IVF by any means.

I guess what I'm asking is, has anyone managed to conceive naturally or with IUI with low count and bad morphology?

Thanks in advance...
Me 30 | DH 28
Oct 07 - m/c at 8 wks
Nov 08 - tragic stillbirth of our son at 38 weeks

Dec. 09 -IUI #1 w/Gonal-f 4 mature follies ~ 6 mil and 8 mil - BFN :(
Jan. 10 -IUI #2 w/Gonal-f 2 mature follies ~ 5 mil and 2 mil
Feb. - BFP from 2nd IUI!!!!!!! It's a MIRACLE!!!!
Mar. - u/s shows one healthy heartbeat (and small subchorionic bleed)

Miracle baby due October 15, 2010
~Change of plans ~
Dx w/placenta previa - large hemorrhage at 25w5d
Our little fighter, baby Anna was born July 7th, 2010 @ 913 grams
Almost 1 year old and going strong!

June '11 - Initial u/s and blood work with clinic
(I can't believe we might do this again!)

#2 lynn001

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 02:11 PM

Very odd indeed! That just doesn't make any sense. But then again, none of this infertility ever does.

We've had poor morphology as well---been TTC for four years now. I've had 4 in-vitros. I've never had a pregnancy. There are some who have though....keep up the hope.
Me: 36 , DH: 33
TTC 4 years - male morphology, and now low ovarian reserve! Gee thanks!
IVF/ICSI (OFC) #1, #2, #3- all failed (one agonist, two antagonist)
1 IVM/ICSI (#4) at McGill (Jan 09): BFN
Diagnosed by McGill with FVL (homozygous) blood clotting disorder
IUI #1 (Dec 09): BFN
IVF/ICSI #5 (OFC) antagonist - BFN
IVF/ICSI #6 (McGill) agonist/antagonist (flare) - BFN

Time to give this up.

#3 S_Pentland

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    Spence Pentland, Dr. TCM

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 02:37 PM

Poor morphology, unless 2% or below, I have seen many times achieve a healthy baby.
Low count, I have also seen achieve many healthy babies.
Most importantly, the motility is good. This points toward better embryo quality and a greater chance of carrying to term.

I would recommend combining IUI's with TTC naturally. With low count, it is important to ensure that cervical mucous is present.

There are many things your husband could be doing for himself and to optimize his fertility. That said, I strongly recommend him speaking to professionals about his condition and that his wife not take on the role of healthcare provider. Fertility specialists will point him in the direction of ICSI, but naturopaths and Chinese medicine practitioners have treatment options for him.

If he needs someone to talk to I am available.
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#4 flybywire

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 01:33 PM

Poor morphology, unless 2% or below, I have seen many times achieve a healthy baby.
Low count, I have also seen achieve many healthy babies.
Most importantly, the motility is good. This points toward better embryo quality and a greater chance of carrying to term.

I would recommend combining IUI's with TTC naturally. With low count, it is important to ensure that cervical mucous is present.

There are many things your husband could be doing for himself and to optimize his fertility. That said, I strongly recommend him speaking to professionals about his condition and that his wife not take on the role of healthcare provider. Fertility specialists will point him in the direction of ICSI, but naturopaths and Chinese medicine practitioners have treatment options for him.

If he needs someone to talk to I am available.


Thanks for the information. He is currently taking up some natural treatments and hopefully that will help. Unfortunately since the birth of my son I have had no EWCM at all and I think that poses a problem as well combined with his low count. I have tried the natural route myself to help in that department but it did not do anything.

So I guess we just hope for a miracle that either it will happen naturally or through IUI...

Thanks again...
Me 30 | DH 28
Oct 07 - m/c at 8 wks
Nov 08 - tragic stillbirth of our son at 38 weeks

Dec. 09 -IUI #1 w/Gonal-f 4 mature follies ~ 6 mil and 8 mil - BFN :(
Jan. 10 -IUI #2 w/Gonal-f 2 mature follies ~ 5 mil and 2 mil
Feb. - BFP from 2nd IUI!!!!!!! It's a MIRACLE!!!!
Mar. - u/s shows one healthy heartbeat (and small subchorionic bleed)

Miracle baby due October 15, 2010
~Change of plans ~
Dx w/placenta previa - large hemorrhage at 25w5d
Our little fighter, baby Anna was born July 7th, 2010 @ 913 grams
Almost 1 year old and going strong!

June '11 - Initial u/s and blood work with clinic
(I can't believe we might do this again!)