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#1 Cotton

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:08 PM

My clinic offers embryoscope for $800.

 

We've pretty much decided to pinch our pennies on the PGS. Our RE said it increases the chance of a baby from a good looking day 5 blast from 40 to 65%. At $4000 we thought we could increase our chances further by putting toward another IVF cycle, if that becomes necessary.

 

However the embryoscope theoretically gets more of your embryos to blasts because they're not being taken out of the incubator. Any thoughts from you knowledgeable ladies?



#2 Daisy.Eriksen

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 05:55 PM

We used embryoscope for our last OE cycle. We only had one mature egg and it made it to day 5 (as a morula), so I suppose it didn't hurt (maybe even helped) that it was left alone in the incubator the whole week rather than being examined every few days. I think it's supposed to also provide the doctors with a lot more info but I'm not sure they told me much. 

I don't know if we're using it for our donor egg cycle this month, I forgot to ask about it. 

I think if you have the cash for it, it's worth it, just to give your embryos that little extra comfort. But if you don't have the finances, I wouldn't worry about it.

Hope that helps a little? 

Good luck with your cycle!


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#3 Cotton

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 07:44 AM

Thanks, Daisy.

 

It seems like the jury is still out on this one. I'm leading towards wanting to do it if we get a bunch of eggs to know what order to transfer embryos. I didn't ask my clinic this, but when do you have to decide? Can we choose after we know how many fertilize? 



#4 Daisy.Eriksen

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 08:36 PM

I am pretty sure we decided at the beginning of our cycle and paid for it/ signed consents for it on the first day of the cycle.

 

I think you'd probably have to decide by the day of retrieval since they probably go there as soon as they've started the fertilization process? But I definitely could be wrong, so worth talking to your clinic about it. 

 

(As an aside, I got my protocol today for my DE transfer and we are not using embryoscope this time.)


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#5 BengalMom

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:51 AM

My clinic in Greece didn't use it simply because they haven't found it to increase live birth rates. I did look at other clinics that had it, and spoke to an independent expert about it. She said there isn't enough evidence behind it to sway someone's clinic choice. That said, since you've already chosen your clinic, it certainly doesn't seem to hurt, so I think it's just whatever price point you're comfortable with. It's tempting to have an "in for a penny, in for a pound" feeling about IVF, so you feel like you've thrown everything at the cycle, instead paying for a whole new cycle!



#6 Cotton

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 05:57 PM

They offered us a discount so we went for it. Still don't really know if it was a good use of money!



#7 N1111

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:22 PM

I am using the embryoscope as I like the idea of the embryos not being disturbed. I hope it helps then get to day 5 for me.

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 04:10 PM

We used embryoscope and in retrospect, wouldn't do it again.  Every dr we've seen have all said we should have had PGS and that the embryoscope doesn't say anything about the genetics/issues with an embryo.  The 5 blasts we ended up with apparently were all grade 1 (supposed to be great quality).  That being said, the drs are saying it because I keep miscarrying and they don't know why, so I think they just want to be able to rule out that it's not the embryos.  It's a hard decision financially for sure.  


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#9 Cotton

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 08:44 PM

 Every dr we've seen have all said we should have had PGS and that the embryoscope doesn't say anything about the genetics/issues with an embryo. 

That's pretty much exactly what my doctor has said. Even the best looking embryo has only 50-50 chance of being PGS normal. (But ugly or slow embryos are more likely to be abnormal than 50/50.) He seems a little grumpy that we didn't do the PGS. Now that I'm actually in the midst of a FET I'm realizing actually transferring the embryos is not a very fun way to determine their chromosomal status, and this being a OHIP funded cycle we can't transfer more than 1. I hope we don't regret not doing the PGS! It really sucks in your case you don't know if the embryos you've transferred were normal. That would have given you more information on whether you have a uterus problem or not. Oh well, hind sight is 20-20.