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#1 val42

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:15 AM

I just had my day 9 ultrasound, and it looks like I only have one follicle in each ovary. The doc said that given my age, cancelling and trying a different protocol next time will probably not improve things too much. It seems that no matter what stims I'm on, my ovaries only want to produce 2-3 follicles. So the big question is whether to go ahead with the ER and take our chances with the 2, or cancel and try again with another protocol. I think I already know what my answer is, but I was wondering what everyone else would do?
me: 44 dh: 46
4 failed IUIs
May, 2008-first IVF cycle canceled on day 11
July-Antagonist protocol
ER July 30th, 2008
ET August 2nd, 2008-1 8 cell B grade, 1 4 cell B grade, 1 4 cell C grade.
2ww-hoping for the most wonderful birthday gift ever...
BFN

#2 hopeful_flyer

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:26 AM

I think I'd just keep going if they don't think that changing protocol will help you much...

As they say...."it only takes one..."

Good luck!! :D
ttc #1 Since Jan 2006. as of April 09 that means ttc for 40 months. Jebus. *sigh*
Bilaterally blocked tubes discovered Dec 2007
IVF#1 June, 2008 agonist protocol
300IU gonal f, 13 days of stims. Nothing to transfer.
EPIC FAIL
IVF#2 Started BCP for Antagonist protocol Oct 9, 2008 (menopur and centrotide)
Last BCP, Nov 2, 2008
First U/S Nov 2, start 300iu Menopur Nov 7, 2008
Back for daily scans and bloods starting Nov 11, 2008
U/S showed 5 follies between 1.1 and 1.25 start Centrotide today.
Nov 13 U/S showed 7 follies between 1.2 and 1.5
Next U/S Nov 14 10 follies
Trigger Nov 15
ER date, Nov 17th
6 retrieved.
4 mature and ICSI'd, 3 dividing on day 1.
3 still alive on day 2
ET Nov 20, 2008. All 3 going back!
8 cell grade 2, 6 cell grade 2, 7 cell grade 3 put back.
8dp3dt Brown spotting
AF arrived Nov 28, WAY early, thanks a lot...*sigh*
Beta Dec 1, 2008 (what is the point? NONE)
RE appointment April 27, 2009 to discuss IVF#2, and then I think we are done. Oh well, was a fun ride? *snicker*

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#3 Lea

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:27 AM

Hi Val,

I would go with my gut feeling.

But with that being said if it was me - I couldn't go through another cycle knowing that I'm only going to produce 2 or 3 follies. The emotional rollercoaster ride would be way to bumpy and hard for me to handle. I would be so excited about starting a cycle and then when the bad test results would come in that would be so hard for me. And I know that my Dh would hate to see me in so much pain.

You have a very tough decision to make and I wish you all the best.

Take care,

Lea
me 42 DH 44
TTC: November 2005
MF: low sperm count

July 2007 #1 IVF & ICSI = BFN
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2 frosties in the freezer!
FET #1 Jan 25 /08 = BFN
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May 2008 #2 IVF & ICSI = cancelled
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July 2008 #2 IVF & ICIS = BFP!!
4 frosties in the freezer.
Our Daughter, Dani, Born April 29, 2009.
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FET - April 2010 = Fat lady sang....though not the tune i was hoping for - BFN
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Sept 2010 #3 IVF/ICIS
Synarel check sept 15 - E2 81
B/W sept 19 - E2 430
B/w & u/s sept 22 - E2 2063
B/w & u/s sept 25 - E2 5878
B/w & u/s sept 26 - E2 8282
ER - Sept 28 - 12 eggies
ET - Oct 1..... transfered 3-8 cell grade A
Beta Oct 14 - Fat lady is singing that nasty tune again - BFN
-----------------------------------------
RE follow up November 1st. RE says Dh swimmers are of poor quality and my eggs MAYBE old 'cause i'm 40 (lovely) only way to rule out my egg quality is to try donor sperm.
November 30 - great now i find out my tubes are blocked! frigg!
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Jan 2011 #4 IVF
Lupron supression check Jan 20 - E2 - 753 (needs to be under 200)
Jan 25 b/w E2 - 109
Jan 30 b/w - E2 - 714
Feb 1 b/w & u/s - E2 - 1705
Feb 4 b/w & u/s - E2 - 5795
Feb 5 b/w & u/s - E2 - 7946
ER - Feb 7 - 12 eggies
ET - Feb 10....transferred 1-9 cell, 2-8 cell - grades 1 & 2
Beta - Feb 24 14dp3dt - 37
Beta #2 - Feb 26 - 16dp3dt - 85
Beta #3 - Mar 4 - 444 rose by 73%
u/s mar 18 - no sac. no nothing.......beta 791
march 31 - ectopic pregnancy confirmed - thanks fat lady!!!!!
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FET Sept 28, 2011
Beta - Oct 13. Oh this Fat Lady - she sucks! BFN
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Purchased my ticket for my last & final ride on the rollercoaster!
Nov 2011 IVF/ICIS #5
Nov 25 b/w - E2 - 179
Nov 30 b/w & u/s - E2 - 2196
Dec 3 b/w & u/s - E2 - 4973
Dec 5 b/w & u/s - E2 - 9050
Dec 7 - ER - 9am
Dec 10 - ET - 4 embies.....3-8 cell, 1-7 cell....all Grade 1
Beta - Dec 25, Christmas day!!!!!, Santa, I'm not asking for much.....just a double line!!!
Early beta Dec 22 - 421!! Thank you Santa!
Beta Dec 29 - 2659
U/S - Jan 16 - OMG, TRIPLETS!!!! ALL measuring 7 wks ALL with very strong h/b
U/S - Jan 30 - Triplets doing well. Strong h/b, measuring on track 9+weeks.
Feb 3 - Appt. with High Risk OB - misscarried 1 baby, Twins are strong.
U/S - Feb 10 - Twins are doing well!!
NT Scan Feb 17 - very good Heart beats 160-165
U/S - March 8 - 14 weeks - babies are doing great
U/S - March 30 - 17 weeks - can find out gender........but i passed - i want the ultimate surprise!
U/S - April 19 - 20 Weeks - cervix length - awesome....5.6cm!
U/S - April 27 - 21 weeks - babies are doin' good!
U/S - May 10 - 23 weeks - cervix length 5cm - babies good - heart rates 140 -149.
U/S - May 24 - 25 weeks - check up went well.....confirmed that i will be induced or scheduled c-section for 38 weeks!!
U/S - June 8 - 27 weeks - cervix length still locked and loaded.......5cm babies looking good - baby A 2lb 7oz baby B 2lb 12oz
U/S - June 28 -30 weeks - baby A still bum down and baby b head down.....it's looking like a c-section for me!
U/S - July 13 - 32 weeks - baby A has turned (head down) their weights - baby A 3lbs 15 oz and baby B 4lbs 3oz
U/S - July 23 - 34 weeks - both babies doing well - measuring right on track.
U/S - July 27 - 34 weeks - part 2 - just getting a 'quick' u/s done - babies lookin' good...though, baby B is being squished by baby A.....
U/S - Aug 3 - 35 weeks - induction date decided!! thank goodness - 'cause I am done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Induction date is August 18th - but I am already 2-3cm dialated - so we'll see if I meet 'the date'. Baby A weighs 6 lb 6 oz and baby B is 5lb 15 oz.
U/S - Aug 13 - 37 weeks - still sitting at 3cm dilated - confirmed induction date with L&D August 18th.

This pregnancy has been a long haul and I'm glad that it's nearly over!

Our 2 healthy baby boys arrived on Sunday August 19th - we are thrilled and over the moon......family is finally complete and now we can move on to the next chapter in our lives.......

#4 sweetredpepper

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:05 AM

Have they recommended converting to IUI to save $$? That might be a solution if there isn't a sperm issue...
Me: 38 DH: 40
TTC since Sept 2004
Unexplained
2 x IUI w/ Clomid BFN
IVF May 2007 Cancelled (poor response)
Surprise natural preg. June 2007
M/C July 2007
Took a break after m/c
Repeat HSG June 2008 found large polyp
Operative Hysteroscopy and D&C Aug 2008
IVF #2 Nov 2008 Converted to IUI (4 follies)
Beta Dec. 1st. BFN :(
Another surprise natural BFP Feb 2009.
Mar 09: 9-week u/s- foetus stopped developing.
Mar 09: D&C :(
Aug 09: IVF "conversion cycle" cancelled. Worst response ever- 2 follicles. Last chance at ART, so we're done.

#5 tryingforever

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:58 AM

I have had the same thing happen to me for my two IVF attempts. If your clinic is willing to do and ER with the two follicles. I would go for it.

I have had 5 medicated cycles and the best I ever did was get 5 follicles and that cycle was an IUI cycle because at that time I didn't think I needed to go the IVF route. This last cycle I only had two and I requested the clinic to do an ER and they wouldn't.

Like everyone says...it only takes one!

Good Luck!
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TTC for 6 years
me=41 dh=44
Jan 07 - HSG - Right tube blocked
Feb 07 - Tubal Canalization perform to unblock tube - unsuccessful
Apr & May 07 - Clomid BFN x 2
July 07 - cancelled IUI - FSH too high to start
Aug 07 - 1st IUI - 2 follicles on left, 1 on right - BFN
Oct 07 - 2nd IUI - 1 med follicle on left, 1 lge on right - BFN
Dec 07 - HSG - now both tubes open???
Jan 08 - 3rd IUI - 5 large follicles - BFN
Apr 08 - 1st IVF cycle started and then cancelled due to poor response.
Jul 08 - 2nd IVF cycle cancelled again due to poor response. Converted to IUI - BFN
Oct 14 - 3rd IVF ER Oct 27, ET Oct 30 (only one 5 cell grade 1 transfered)
Nov 13 - BFN
Apr 09 - IVF #4 - BFN

#6 val42

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:14 AM

Thanks for your replies everyone.

They did not suggest IUI. I guess because we've already had 4 failed attempts.

At this point, I don't think there is anything more I can do personally to improve my egg production. I mean, I can't turn back the hands of time which is really the only thing I think that would work. I don't think I look 42, and I definitely don't feel it, so it seems like my body is playing a cruel trick on me.

It's funny, I look at my friend who is the same age as me, and has a 20 year old daughter, and think to myself, why the hell didn't I have kids when I was younger? But while she was at home raising 3 kids, I was traveling and having fun, trying NOT to get pregnant. I really can't regret any of that because it was my choice, and I've had a pretty good life. Besides, I was waiting for Mr right to come along...Unfortunately, he didn't come along until I was 36. Much later than I ever would have imagined...That was my path or destiny I guess.

The weird thing is that before we even started this cycle, I had already asked myself what I would do if this happened, as if I had a feeling it might. Anyway, I already knew that I wanted to go ahead regardless, and when I spoke with my wonderful DH after my appointment, he was so positive. He truly believes it's our time, and I agree with him. I'm definitely not ready to give up just yet. So, onward and upward! Whatever the outcome, we'll get through it together. As he said, what's $15,000 right?
me: 44 dh: 46
4 failed IUIs
May, 2008-first IVF cycle canceled on day 11
July-Antagonist protocol
ER July 30th, 2008
ET August 2nd, 2008-1 8 cell B grade, 1 4 cell B grade, 1 4 cell C grade.
2ww-hoping for the most wonderful birthday gift ever...
BFN

#7 Lea

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:20 AM

Good luck!

I truly hope you get your bfp - we all deserve it!

Lea
me 42 DH 44
TTC: November 2005
MF: low sperm count

July 2007 #1 IVF & ICSI = BFN
---------------------------------------
2 frosties in the freezer!
FET #1 Jan 25 /08 = BFN
---------------------------------------
May 2008 #2 IVF & ICSI = cancelled
---------------------------------------
July 2008 #2 IVF & ICIS = BFP!!
4 frosties in the freezer.
Our Daughter, Dani, Born April 29, 2009.
----------------------------------------
FET - April 2010 = Fat lady sang....though not the tune i was hoping for - BFN
----------------------------------------
Sept 2010 #3 IVF/ICIS
Synarel check sept 15 - E2 81
B/W sept 19 - E2 430
B/w & u/s sept 22 - E2 2063
B/w & u/s sept 25 - E2 5878
B/w & u/s sept 26 - E2 8282
ER - Sept 28 - 12 eggies
ET - Oct 1..... transfered 3-8 cell grade A
Beta Oct 14 - Fat lady is singing that nasty tune again - BFN
-----------------------------------------
RE follow up November 1st. RE says Dh swimmers are of poor quality and my eggs MAYBE old 'cause i'm 40 (lovely) only way to rule out my egg quality is to try donor sperm.
November 30 - great now i find out my tubes are blocked! frigg!
-----------------------------------------
Jan 2011 #4 IVF
Lupron supression check Jan 20 - E2 - 753 (needs to be under 200)
Jan 25 b/w E2 - 109
Jan 30 b/w - E2 - 714
Feb 1 b/w & u/s - E2 - 1705
Feb 4 b/w & u/s - E2 - 5795
Feb 5 b/w & u/s - E2 - 7946
ER - Feb 7 - 12 eggies
ET - Feb 10....transferred 1-9 cell, 2-8 cell - grades 1 & 2
Beta - Feb 24 14dp3dt - 37
Beta #2 - Feb 26 - 16dp3dt - 85
Beta #3 - Mar 4 - 444 rose by 73%
u/s mar 18 - no sac. no nothing.......beta 791
march 31 - ectopic pregnancy confirmed - thanks fat lady!!!!!
-------------------------------------------
FET Sept 28, 2011
Beta - Oct 13. Oh this Fat Lady - she sucks! BFN
-------------------------------------------
Purchased my ticket for my last & final ride on the rollercoaster!
Nov 2011 IVF/ICIS #5
Nov 25 b/w - E2 - 179
Nov 30 b/w & u/s - E2 - 2196
Dec 3 b/w & u/s - E2 - 4973
Dec 5 b/w & u/s - E2 - 9050
Dec 7 - ER - 9am
Dec 10 - ET - 4 embies.....3-8 cell, 1-7 cell....all Grade 1
Beta - Dec 25, Christmas day!!!!!, Santa, I'm not asking for much.....just a double line!!!
Early beta Dec 22 - 421!! Thank you Santa!
Beta Dec 29 - 2659
U/S - Jan 16 - OMG, TRIPLETS!!!! ALL measuring 7 wks ALL with very strong h/b
U/S - Jan 30 - Triplets doing well. Strong h/b, measuring on track 9+weeks.
Feb 3 - Appt. with High Risk OB - misscarried 1 baby, Twins are strong.
U/S - Feb 10 - Twins are doing well!!
NT Scan Feb 17 - very good Heart beats 160-165
U/S - March 8 - 14 weeks - babies are doing great
U/S - March 30 - 17 weeks - can find out gender........but i passed - i want the ultimate surprise!
U/S - April 19 - 20 Weeks - cervix length - awesome....5.6cm!
U/S - April 27 - 21 weeks - babies are doin' good!
U/S - May 10 - 23 weeks - cervix length 5cm - babies good - heart rates 140 -149.
U/S - May 24 - 25 weeks - check up went well.....confirmed that i will be induced or scheduled c-section for 38 weeks!!
U/S - June 8 - 27 weeks - cervix length still locked and loaded.......5cm babies looking good - baby A 2lb 7oz baby B 2lb 12oz
U/S - June 28 -30 weeks - baby A still bum down and baby b head down.....it's looking like a c-section for me!
U/S - July 13 - 32 weeks - baby A has turned (head down) their weights - baby A 3lbs 15 oz and baby B 4lbs 3oz
U/S - July 23 - 34 weeks - both babies doing well - measuring right on track.
U/S - July 27 - 34 weeks - part 2 - just getting a 'quick' u/s done - babies lookin' good...though, baby B is being squished by baby A.....
U/S - Aug 3 - 35 weeks - induction date decided!! thank goodness - 'cause I am done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Induction date is August 18th - but I am already 2-3cm dialated - so we'll see if I meet 'the date'. Baby A weighs 6 lb 6 oz and baby B is 5lb 15 oz.
U/S - Aug 13 - 37 weeks - still sitting at 3cm dilated - confirmed induction date with L&D August 18th.

This pregnancy has been a long haul and I'm glad that it's nearly over!

Our 2 healthy baby boys arrived on Sunday August 19th - we are thrilled and over the moon......family is finally complete and now we can move on to the next chapter in our lives.......

#8 val42

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 02:03 PM

Thanks Lea. I hope you get your BFP too...I hope we all do!

Val
me: 44 dh: 46
4 failed IUIs
May, 2008-first IVF cycle canceled on day 11
July-Antagonist protocol
ER July 30th, 2008
ET August 2nd, 2008-1 8 cell B grade, 1 4 cell B grade, 1 4 cell C grade.
2ww-hoping for the most wonderful birthday gift ever...
BFN

#9 sweetredpepper

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 02:36 PM

Best of luck & lots of baby dust to you Val! If it helps at all, my SIL (accidently) got pregnant at 45 and has a beautiful 2 year old now. It IS possible!

Oh, and BTW, my RE recently told me of a woman who got pregnant on her 15th IUI! I realize that most people give up looong before that though.

I know what you mean about meeting your DH late; I didn't meet mine until I was 32 and never would have guessed that we would have problems conceiving. Ah, life....

Here's hoping it's your turn for a BFP!
Me: 38 DH: 40
TTC since Sept 2004
Unexplained
2 x IUI w/ Clomid BFN
IVF May 2007 Cancelled (poor response)
Surprise natural preg. June 2007
M/C July 2007
Took a break after m/c
Repeat HSG June 2008 found large polyp
Operative Hysteroscopy and D&C Aug 2008
IVF #2 Nov 2008 Converted to IUI (4 follies)
Beta Dec. 1st. BFN :(
Another surprise natural BFP Feb 2009.
Mar 09: 9-week u/s- foetus stopped developing.
Mar 09: D&C :(
Aug 09: IVF "conversion cycle" cancelled. Worst response ever- 2 follicles. Last chance at ART, so we're done.

#10 Rosa

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:09 PM

Hi,

Well I met my DH at 34 and we got married when I was 37, so I also met him much later in life. I think the same thing sometimes when I see someone my age with an older child. But it wasn't the path I took...still it wasn't an active choice, just the fact that the right one didn't come along when I was in my early 20's.
Me 45, DH 41
TTC 3 years
Uterine polyps, high prolactin levels and tested positive for anti-cardio lipin
5 failed IUI's
IVF #1 July 2007, 32 eggs retrieved (many immature), 12 fertilzed, 9 made it to day 3, transferred 3 embbies, BFN
FET #1 - 3 embryos Oct 07, beta Nov 2nd, another BFN
IVF #2 - Nov 2007, on Lupron and birth control pill, 11 days of stims 225 Gonal F plus 75 Repronex and 150 Gonal F at night, retrieved 18 eggs Dec 11th, 8 fertilized through ICSI and 4 naturally
Transfer - 3, 8 cell embryos Dec 14th, BETA Dec 28th, BFN
7 frozen
FET #2 - June 5/08, BFN
hysteroscopy and polypectomy on Sept 25/08, removed 1 polyp
FET #3 - used up my last 4 frosties Oct 27/08
Beta Nov 9/08 125 BFP 13dp3dt
Beta Nov 11/08 315 15dp3dt
Beta Nov 15/08 over 2000 19dp3dt
Beta Nov 18/08 7365 22dp3dt
U/S date Nov 29/08, a singleton, heart beat 131 beats per minute
U/S date Dec 7/08, heart beat 160 beats per minute, growth good 8 w 2 days
U/S date Dec 13/08, heart beat 157 beats per minute, growth good at 9 w 1 day, baby moving around
U/S date Dec 27/08, heart beat 165 beats per minute, growth good at 11 weeks 1 day, baby moving around, now has arms and legs and was kicking
nuchal test US Jan 2/08 TEXTBOOK NORMAL Thank you God!
IPS pregnancy test results NORMAL, risk is 1/800 of Down's Syndrome and 1/1,100 for spina bifida
anatomical u/s NORMAL, it's a girl!
Due date July 18, 2009 in the home stretch

Sophia Anne born July 22, 2009 at 12:41 AM via emergency C-Section.

Fell down the stairs Aug 4, 2010, fractured C7, T1, T3 and 4 ribs (neck and upper spine). Still healing and hoping bones fuse on their own.