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#1 AvoidAARTClinic

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:53 AM

Just wondering if anyone knows if there is a BMI limit to receive IVF at Conceptia? The new AART policy (the clinic in Halifax) is denying IVF and IUI procedures to women over a certain BMI.  I am waiting for a referral to Conceptia now, but if someone knows if there is a limit then it would save me time to just seek out another clinic.  Thanks for the help!!



#2 MGC

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:39 PM

BMI has never been a topic at Conceptia and I have seen many people of many sizes. That being said, I don’t know the situation and cannot confirm this could be a factor however, BMI scoring is also very flawed index as even someone physically fit could be labelled “obese” based on weight and height. Your best bet would be to contact them directly. They are very good at answering these kind of questions via telephone.

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#3 AvoidAARTClinic

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:31 AM

Thanks, MCG! I actually called and the receptionist didn't feel comfortable answering that question, understandably. I didn't know if there was a nurses' line like with AART so I went ahead with the referral.

 

Thanks for the insight though. That makes me feel better. AART's policy I have very mixed feelings about, but its legal (so far). I'm also very very close to meeting AART's policy, I just felt that the entire atmosphere and culture at the clinic is not one that I want to support. 

 

A bonus is that AART is at least 2 thousand more than Conceptia, so hopefully, if I can do IVF in Moncton, I can also have some spare money from savings to get a FET as well (willing IVF gives me some FETs). 



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:46 PM

Fingers crossed for a successful outcome at AART.

 

It's very common for most clinics have BMI limits on both sides of the equation which can be attributable to clinic policy (re outcome measurement) or to restrictions surrounding surgical centres outside of hospitals.  Always a good idea for a potential reproductive patient to discuss any concerns they may have with a prospective clinic directly.

 

Best of luck on your journey!


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:09 PM

Hi Ladies,

I've hidden two posts in this thread and think it is now an appropriate time to remind everyone about our community guidelines.

https://ivf.ca/forums...tion=boardrules

Please note Section C, point 6 which references that we cannot make unproven and potentially defamatory statements about any person or entity.

In IVF there is a range of outcome and experience at any clinic and with any patient. We can absolutely feel free to say that we didn't have a positive experience, that you don't feel care is patient centric or you feel the institution should be more proactive in informing patients of policies and procedures. Statements that are not in keeping with Section C, point 6 will likely be moderated.

Wishing everyone a better outcome with their next steps.

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#6 AvoidAARTClinic

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 06:47 AM

Hi CDNHockeyGal

 

I believe you removed my posts. If I posted supporting evidence or stated the information given to me by a physician during a second consult would that information be allowed? 



#7 loo

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 11:33 AM

Hi CdnHockey Girl,

 

Sorry if my post violated the guidelines!  It certainly was not my intent to be defamatory toward AART... I've used a few different clinics and have had the best experience with AAART.    

 

I just wanted to support AvoidAART, and advise most fertility clinics do have a cutoff BMI thus important to ask upfront.  

 

Once again, sorry for the trouble!

 

Loo :) 


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#8 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:41 PM

Hi Ladies,

 

It's no problem at all!  :)  At any clinic there is always a range of outcome.  I can certainly say I've had my fair share of experiences where I felt that I was badly served by the care team.

 

The best guidance I can give is that it is totally acceptable to say things like "I had a negative experience, I felt I wasn't well guided, I'd urge caution based on my own experiences with my individual care, etc" and it's also ok to say things like "we had a much more positive care experience at our new clinic, etc."

 

As a general commentary...many clinics 2nd or 3rd opinions will differ from the original clinic...everyone wants to believe they are well suited to serve a patient's particular need and they are competing for our dollars.  Having a different opinion doesn't make anyone entity "right" or "wrong"...there are many different IVF protocols available and IVF is at the crux of it...a very expensive scientific hypothesis where we wait for results and then determine how we need to adjust the science going forward.

 

Thanking everyone for their support and understanding.  :)  Best of luck to all!

 

CHG


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#9 AvoidAARTClinic

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:50 PM

I think the best way forward is to post my complete timeline of events so people can gain more insight into my experience and use that experience to make their own opinions. This has no opinions and is 100% my clinical case.

 

  • My husband and I both were referred to AART with irregular test results -- he had a lower sperm count but still "doable" (this is the GP semen analysis, not the in-depth one) and I had suspected PCOS

  • No Semen Analysis (the paid in-depth one) was ordered from Jan 2016 to October 2017 even though I told my physician, my husband and I could afford it and wanted all tests that would provide a better treatment plan. My doctor told me to keep losing weight and didn't prescribe any further treatments, like Clomid, or perform a Semen Analysis or internal ultrasound. 

  • A Semen Analysis was only ordered once I strongly insisted for it to be ordered. 

  • The SA discovered severe MFI. We were immediately referred to IVF + ICSI.

  • I was under the care of my RE from Jan 2016 to Oct 2017 without an SA trying to naturally conceive. 

  • It is impossible for my husband and I to conceive in any manner besides with IVF + ICSI, which was immediately apparent after a 300.00 semen analysis test. 

  • I was referred to a specialist, that was not related to fertility, by my RE. While I was with the referral physician, and informing him that I was there to get treatment to reach a BMI that would permit me to receive IVF from AART, he read aloud to me the reason for referral included by my doctor. It stated in the referral that I wanted this consultation in order to be at my healthiest weight before becoming pregnant. The referral did not mention that I was referred to lose weight to meet the BMI policy from AART, or that I would choose, if possible, to undergo fertility treatments at any weight at AART.   



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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:55 PM

Hi Ladies,

 

As I've mentioned on other threads I think it wise to have the moderating team have an opportunity to discuss & review this thread in it's entirety.  Once we've had an opportunity to review we will either put the post back or put it put with minor edits and our comments.

 

We thank everyone for their patience, understanding and participation.  

 

CHG


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