Icsi fertilization failure
Posted 07 July 2017 - 03:05 PM
My husband was diagnosed with 100% globozoospermia (round headed sperm). My RE was super positive that all would be okay with IVF with ICSI ooygote accitvated with calcium ionophore. I had my egg retrieval this past Tuesday (July 4) and received a phone call the next night. None of my 6 mature eggs fertilized. My doctor was beyond shocked as was everyone in the lab that not one fertilized. My doctor and nurse is adamant that this is not an egg quality issue. My doctor is also weary about doing another cycle that I insist on.
My question is have anyone have fertilization failure with ICSI and AOA
Posted 08 July 2017 - 04:14 PM
KimT0821 - I am really sorry about the news, i hope you are doing ok! We had the same thing happen to us in March, which was also our first IVF! I had 9 follicles, they retrieved 7 eggs and out of those 7, nothing fertilized. In our situation, we were told it was due to poor egg quality, We were devastated! Our doctor was also surprised but unfortunately it is more common than what i thought. There are a few other ladies on this site that also had zero fertilization! Our situation is a little different than yours, as we are not dealing with globozoospermia !
What is your next step? Hang in there!!
35, Endometriosis, TTC 5 years
Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:59 AM
What clinic are you with? I would be tempted to seek a second opinion at a clinic with a laboratory that has an amazing reputation. If you're in the GTA, I would highly recommend the Hannam Fertility Centre. Their laboratory partners with CCRM in Colorado, arguably one of the best clinics in the world. They have a first-class laboratory that offers very specific care (PICSI, for example). Dr. Hannam is amazing and does phone consults. I would recommend having a discussion to get his take and recommendation of your situation.
Hang in there.
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 06:53 AM
We had a very similar situation. First round no fertilization and then the second round we had 100% fertilization with the AOA.
I understand how devastating it is to get a call saying that nothing fertilized
Does the doctor think there could be any other factors (chromosomal etc.)?
We went to a clinic in the GTA as there aren't too many clinics that offer AOA (granted this was around 5 years ago things may have changed). If your doctor is adamant about not doing another cycle, then I would definitely seek a second opinion.
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 06:55 AM
I should also add - wait until your follow-up to see if the doctor has any additional info. Hopefully he's looking into things now (speaking to the embryologist) to see if there could be an explanation why things didn't work.
Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:53 AM
We had a similar situation. Jan 2017 I had 5 eggs retrieved, 4 were mature but they attempted to fertilize all the eggs with ICSI and none of the eggs fertilized.
They thought it was an egg quality issue (I have DOR but I was only 26 at the time) but they had H do a DNA fragmentation test even though all his other numbers were fine, and we found out that he had a really high DNA frag rate of 87% (they consider anything under 30% a good score). He was put on some supplements and changed his diet/put on some weight. We cycled again Feb 2017 and I had 8 retrieved, 7 mature, 4 fertilize and all 4 make it to blast.
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Me - 30 H - 32
TTC #1 since Dec 2013
October 2015 - AMH .43
IVF #1 - Jan 2016. 5 eggs retrieved, 4 matured, 0 fertilized.
IVF#2 - Jan 2016, Converted to IUI -BFN
IVF#3 - Feb 2017
10dp5dt - BFP Beta #1 55. 12dp5dt Beta #2 132 Beta # 3 332 Beta #4 172,. Ectopic pregnancy in left tube. Pregnancy resolved itself.
FET #1 July 2017 - BFN
FET #2 August 17, 2017 - BFP Beta #1 10dp5dt - 800 , Beta #2 - 1501
08/08/2017 - Ultrasound 5 weeks 6 days shows 1 baby measuring right on track with heartbeat of 110 bpm!!
14/08/2017 - Ultrasound measuring 6 weeks 6 days at 6 weeks 5 days, heartbeat of 138 BPM.
EDD - 04/05/2018 - Baby BOY!
DS born May 7th, 2018.
Time for a sibling - No frosties, back to IVF
IVF #1 - 11 retrieved, 7 mature, 1 fertlized, did not make it to blast.
IVF #2 - 8 retrieved, 5 mature, 1 fertilized, 1 5 day blast frozen (5AB)
FET October 2019 - Natural FET cycle with trigger shot & HCG boosters. BFP HCG 10dp5dt - 316 12dp5dt - 687
Ultrasound at 6w1d shows perfect little baby, heart-rate 110BPM
EDD - 22/06/2020 - Baby GIRL!
Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:27 AM
I would recommend a second opinion before going ahead with another cycle. I am so thankful that we got second opinions and then picked Hannam. My only regret is not having someone look at our case after our first cycle.
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Me:33 DH:37 Dx MFI
Ottawa Fertility Centre:
IUI#1 Feb 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
1.5mil post wash BFN
IUI#2 April 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
400,000 post wash BFN
IVF#1 July 2016:long agonist protocol(bcp/suprefact, gonal-f 150iu, Ovidrel)
AFC 28, 12 retrieved 8 mature, 1 fertilized with ICSI BFP ended in CP
IVF #2 Nov 2016:long agonist protocol(gonal-f 125 iu and luveris 75 added)
AFC 18, 3 eggs retrieved 2 mature, total ICSI failure
IVF#3 July 2017: Antagonist protocol( gonal-f, menopur, centrotide, double lupron trigger)
AFC 32, 17 eggs retrieved, 14 mature 6 eggs frozen as back up, 8 PICSI 3 fertilized and arrested at morula/stage 2 blast.
IVF#3.5 Thawed 6 eggs for fertilization with PICSI and AOA. 2 out 6 thawed, 1 fertilized and arrested day 3.
Final diagnosis of severe male factor with sperm head defect and unexplained egg cytoplasm dysfunction. Moving onto known embryo donation!
Create Fertility (Donor Embryos):
FET#1: December 2018 BFN
FET#2: February 2018 BFP