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#1 Capricorn85

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:05 AM

Hello to all of you wonderful ladies.  I'm hoping we can get personal here for a minute. I'm wondering what ages you did you IVF cycles at and what your outcome was.

 

We've just had our second BFN since December, and those were the last of the frozen embryos 1f622.png😢

 

So now I sit here totally lost and in a daze with nothing to do but chase my own thoughts in circles around my head. It's been 9 years since that cycle, and I'm afraid of doing another one and still ending up where I am right now anyway.  I was born without a uterus so I knew young that IVF was my route.  I guess this was a "benefit" of the situation - that I was 22 when we did our first cycle.  

 

We got 21 eggs, of which 17 fertilized, and 12 made it to day 3.  We transferred 2 to a surrogate, which resulted in an early miscarriage.  Thawed 3 (1 didn't survive), transferred 2, had a healthy boy in 2009. Fast forward a few years after surrogate search struggles, and we found another angel.  At this point we decided to thaw some embryos and advance them to day 5 at the advice of our RE.  1 didn't survive the thaw, and 1 didn't advance, but this left us with a single embryo to transfer and 2 to put back into the freezer.  Transfer took and we had a healthy girl in 2014.  This ultimately left us with 2 slow movers at day 6 or 7 and 3 more day 3, so 5 embryos frozen total.

 

Now we've got another surrogate and have done 2 FET's, both negative :(  I know we were using the last choice embryos ultimately as they were what was left over, but I'm still heartbroken and don't know how I want to proceed from here.  I'm 31 now, so definitely not 22, and I guess I'm mostly afraid of going through it all again and not get any further ahead anyway - a struggle I'm sure most people here can relate with.

 

I know everyone is different, I'm just trying to do what I can to think of how to move forward from here, and part of that is research.

Thanks all

 



#2 returnable

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

Capricorn, even for most egg donor clinics they still accept people your age, so barring any identified IF issues, you should still have plenty of eggs (based on a pool of people at 31). Of course the individual does not a statistic make. There are tests you can do to see what your egg reserve is such as your AMH level, and FSH at day 3 as well as an AFC. I would recommend you go to see an infertility specialist and see where you stand. One thing you may consider this time is having your embryos grown to day 5 and having them PGS tested to ensure there are no chromosomal abnormalities. As a sense of comfort, the science of IVF has improved in the last 10 years. I definitely would not give up.


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Two IVFs and no chromosomally normal blasts to transfer...we are done with my eggs.


#3 Capricorn85

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:28 AM

Capricorn, even for most egg donor clinics they still accept people your age, so barring any identified IF issues, you should still have plenty of eggs (based on a pool of people at 31). Of course the individual does not a statistic make. There are tests you can do to see what your egg reserve is such as your AMH level, and FSH at day 3 as well as an AFC. I would recommend you go to see an infertility specialist and see where you stand. One thing you may consider this time is having your embryos grown to day 5 and having them PGS tested to ensure there are no chromosomal abnormalities. As a sense of comfort, the science of IVF has improved in the last 10 years. I definitely would not give up.

Thank you <3  

We would definitely go for day 5 this time - day 3 was the standard at our clinic 9 years ago.  That's also the reason we opted to move embryos to day 5 before transfer the last couple of times.  Would my clinic be able to help with those tests or point me in the right direction?



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:33 AM

Not all clinics have the capability to evaluate AMH, but it may also be done (I think) at a normal blood lab if ordered by your family doctor. I would contact your clinic and ask, or perhaps for a faster response contact the people on this site that are at RFP. Of course no blood level or count will guarantee a success, but it will give you a better idea where you stand.

 

Good luck!


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#5 EverHopefull!

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:55 AM

I had success with an IVF at 37, so I'd say you've got some good years left in you! 

 

I did the AMH test (blood test) through my local lab with a requisition from my fertility clinic.  I had to pay for it though (I can't remember how much).  The point of it is to give you an idea how much ovarian reserve you've got, but you're young enough (IMO) that you probably don't need it.  If I was in your shoes I'd just get started.  You have no known fertility problems (aside from no uterus) so there's no reason to think that you won't produce lots of healthy eggs.  The tests are great, but it's not like they can guarantee you any success anyway, so I'd save the time and get started.  

 

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#6 schlepp

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:51 PM

I second the comments about getting tested to see where your fertility is at (day 3 FSH, AFC ultrasound and AMH test) first. I think RFP is Calgary and they are the clinic that freeze everything right after fertilization, other than what you transfer fresh? This is definitely not the standard of care at the rest of the clinics in Canada. And in your case seems like even more of a challenge when you are lining up a surrogate. 

 

If it is within your means, maybe you could travel to a different clinic? Make sure everything is grown to day 5 and PGS tested before freezing. This probably presents all sorts of other logistics with a surrogate but would likely increase your odds. 

 

For the majority of women without health issues, 31 is still a great age for IVF. I'm 39 and am still cursing my 35 year old self for not pursuing egg freezing! 

 

Best of luck!


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#7 amp77

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 08:55 PM

We did two fresh IVFs at age 36 (almost 37) and the second one gave us our son.  At 39 I did a FET from the second cycle and am 27 weeks pregnant from that cycle.

 

Best of luck to you!  


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FET #1 -  Sept 2016

Day 1 - Sept. 9

Monitoring - Sept. 18-22

Lining Check - Sept. 22 (11.3 mm)

Transferred 5B-BB Sept. 25 - BFP!!!  HCG 890 @ 12dp5dt and Progesterone 95.
Midwife appointment Sept. 19 and first ultrasound Nov. 4
3 Frosties left

 

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Seems like forever ago...

 

Age 37, DH 40.

TTC on and off since 2007

Unexplained Infertility

 

IVF #1 - April 2014 - BFN - no frosties

 

IVF #2 - July 2014 - BFP - 5B-AB and 4 frosties (5B-BB, 2x4B-BB and 3B-BB)

Apr. 13, 2015 - Daniel Erik was born at 5:05 am, weight 8 lbs, 13 oz, and 22" long.  He is perfect in every way.

 

 


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:02 PM

Hi! Congrats on your two babies and I'm sorry about the 2 BFNs you've had back to back. For your reference, I was 31 when we did my IVF cycle and was considered just an average responder. I have no other real issues except a blocked tube, and I ended up with 4 high quality 5 day blasts. We used one for my daughter. The remaining are in the freezer. My wife was 30 (I think) when we did her IVF cycle and she ended up with 5 top quality blasts. One was used for our son, one was a BFN, and one is in my belly as I am currently like 6.5 weeks pregnant. Every woman is different, but maybe that could be a reference for your next cycle? Also, I totally second the recommendation to PGS test your embryos to remove the added stress, and likely expense of failed cycles that could have been avoided. We did not PGS test to save the money, and we were novices in the IVF world when we did our cycles. If I could change it, I would have tested them, it's like $5k at our US clinic. Although, so far we have had pretty great luck, but you never know until you know. Good luck! ☺

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Henry Clyde arrives April 25, 2013! 💙

 

2014: DW's turn at Pregnancy/Unmedicated FET/( I was the Egg Donor)

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2017: Try for baby #3 (My turn again...)

January FET (Natural): BFN

February FET (Medicated): BFP!

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#9 Capricorn85

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

I second the comments about getting tested to see where your fertility is at (day 3 FSH, AFC ultrasound and AMH test) first. I think RFP is Calgary and they are the clinic that freeze everything right after fertilization, other than what you transfer fresh? This is definitely not the standard of care at the rest of the clinics in Canada. And in your case seems like even more of a challenge when you are lining up a surrogate. 

 

If it is within your means, maybe you could travel to a different clinic? Make sure everything is grown to day 5 and PGS tested before freezing. This probably presents all sorts of other logistics with a surrogate but would likely increase your odds. 

 

For the majority of women without health issues, 31 is still a great age for IVF. I'm 39 and am still cursing my 35 year old self for not pursuing egg freezing! 

 

Best of luck!

Yes RFP is Calgary, but it's my understanding now that they are pushing more to go to the day 5 before freezing, but I could be mistaken.  I will definitely be asking about all the testing .

 

Unfortunately as much as I would like to entertain the idea of switching clinics, we'd likely be looking at Victoria or Vancouver, and with jobs, a surrogate, and then both of our kids to consider, travelling that kind of distance ends up being a HUGE added cost, and time factor as it's hard to get that much time to go that far away. It's a 13 hour drive from where we live, or a 3 hour drive and a 2 hour ish flight