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#1 Setmefree

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Posted 11 October 2016 - 11:50 PM

It's sad that we don't have complete access to statistics on how each clinic is doing in Canada. Clinics are not obligated to report to the public. Whereas in the USA, all stats are readily available to see. I was wondering which clinicians have people had success with in Toronto. Also, which clinicians were caring, thorough and on top of it?
I personally liked Dr. Garbedian and fully trusted her judgement. I just couldn't afford Hannam. Let's share stories..

#2 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 09:58 AM

Hi Setmefree - I can't speak with any knowledge to the ON clinics but I would suggest focusing in on REs who have specific expertise/interest in your diagnosis.  As an example, an RE who specialises in DOR may have comparatively poor success rates...but...that's understandable given the subject matter with which they work.  His/her success rates vis a vis other clinics treating DOR would provide more of an idea of physician success.  As with most things...it all lies in the details...if your issues are "unexplained" and you have normal ovarian reserve and minimal to no MFI...the large overall success rate is probably just fine...just depends on what you're looking to treat.


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We've tried lots of things for a long time. None of them have resulted in a viable pregnancy.


#3 Setmefree

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:55 PM

No specific diagnosis for me. Just my age-39!
Everything else is pretty normal at least for now!

#4 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 05:43 PM

You'll likely be well served by Create if you're working with AMA (advanced maternal age) and likely diminished quality due to age.  I'm not overly familiar with the ON clinics but I would suggest concentrating your focus on REs who have had success with AMA and DOR.  Best of luck to you!


We've tried lots of things for a long time. None of them have resulted in a viable pregnancy.


#5 Setmefree

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 06:01 PM

Thank you cdnhockeygirl! Why do you think Create is good for this compared to other clinics. I went to 3 clinics in Ontario including Create but didn't see such differences. Thank you. I would appreciate your input

#6 gandere1

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 08:45 PM

I went to create after being at three different clinics. It had a factory feel, but I had DOR and AMA so it ended up being a good fit for me.


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#7 Setmefree

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 09:36 PM

But why would Create be better? What does it do differently ?

#8 CdnHockeyGal

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 12:27 PM

Your best bet would be to speak to CrEate patients and obtain their feedback but they certainly have a reputation for having both interest and success with AMA and DOR.  Good luck!


We've tried lots of things for a long time. None of them have resulted in a viable pregnancy.


#9 Wishinandprayin

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 02:27 PM

We dealt with male factor infertility due to a balanced translocation. We were between Hannam and Dr Baratz at CReATe. We ended up w Baratz based on cost and gut feeling. I read someone say CReATe had a factory feel but I didn't feel that...I suspect all clinics slightly give off that vibe bc it's patient in and out constantly but that's the name of the game. I had a good experience w the clinic-admin/nurses/techs/and most importantly RE. I would highly recommend Baratz. He was efficient and straight forward and felt he ordered a good protocol for our situation and we ended up w three normal embryos. We transferred one last year and now have a two month old baby boy:) good luck w your choice! You really gotta go with your gut and well your wallet and what you can afford.
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#10 Over35

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 04:55 AM

We went to Create after a referral from a family member we no longer speak with. That should have been a clue. Now, we were successful and now have a beautiful girl, but the experience was not enjoyable at all. People were rude, they treated my husband like he wasn't important at all in this process, the receptionist was more interested in chatting with others and overall not listening to patients, a few of the dr's were rude and mean to the nurses, it DOES have a factory feel, and there is little to no direction when you are brand new. Some of the staff were very kind and helpful which was nice, but more I found were not. We will not be returning to this clinic.

#11 Reena28

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 08:15 AM

I suggest First Steps fertility on yonge and Sheppard. There's only one doc so far and she helped me and my sister conceive. It's more personalized since it's a smaller clinic. The nurses will get to know you and I felt like Dr Weisberg got to know me and my sister personally.
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IVF #2 - beginning of April 2016
4 mature eggs retrieved April 19th
4 blasts for freezing!!!!! FET to be done July 2016

July 21 - hatching blast transferred (close to perfect 1ab)
July 27 - HPT+!!!!!
Aug 2 - 385 *happy dance*
Aug 4 - 1408 (14dp5dt)
Aug 6 - 3202
Aug 8 - 5947 (??not double)
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#12 amazing grace

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 06:15 PM

I am with New Life. Dr. Soliman was the only one who was able to help me conceive and carry to 16 weeks after many early miscarriages. Unfortunately my pregnancy ended because of other reasons but he got me further than anyone else. I like the fact that I always see him, he answers all my questions via email and the nurses are amazing. He is really up to date with the latest. I have to warn you though that he is not very warm though and some people don't take to well to that. It took some time for him to warm up to me, but once he did, he was very approachable. Good luck with your decision.


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#13 Sweet_Pea

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 11:02 AM

It's sad that we don't have complete access to statistics on how each clinic is doing in Canada. Clinics are not obligated to report to the public. Whereas in the USA, all stats are readily available to see. I was wondering which clinicians have people had success with in Toronto. Also, which clinicians were caring, thorough and on top of it?
I personally liked Dr. Garbedian and fully trusted her judgement. I just couldn't afford Hannam. Let's share stories..

I loved Dr. Garbedian too - but just couldn't afford Hannam. A friend recommended Dr. Baratz at Create (she's referred 5 people and they've all gotten pregnant with him). Create is MUCH more affordable too. Literally every test and procedure is almost half the cost! I don't know how anyone can afford Hannam to be honest. I'd rather get 2 cycles in then put all my eggs into one basket (pun intended) for 1 cycle.


Me: 37, amh 11.9 pmol, AFC 14-26 depending on month

FSH 7-12 (12 happened one random time after a lot of meds. It's usually around 7)

Compound heterozygous for MTHFR

Hypothyroid

 

DH: 42, SA is perfect and DNA frag completely normal

 

TTC since July 2014

Many many rounds of meds (clomid, fsh, letrozole), 4 IUIs, 5 chemicals but nothing more

 

IVF #1 (Feb 2016):

BCPs 3 weeks, 450IU gonal, 75 IU luveris, and Cetrotide as antagonist

Cancelled because 6 lead follicles were over 1.5 cm after only 3 days of stims!

Should've kept going because I ended up with 12 follicles and estradiol was 11,000.

Obviously they wouldn't let me try naturally, but kind of wish I did. This process is draining sad.png

 

IVF #1.2 (March 2016):

Natural Start. Same protocol as above and same thing happened.

6 lead follicles took off and were over 1.5 cm by day 3 (wonder if this is d/t high dosage)

12 follicles, 6 retrieved, 4 mature, all 4 fertilized

3 perfect by day 3, all arrested by day 5, nothing to transfer

 

IVF #2 (November 2016)

Switched clinics to Create.

Currently in full workup. Doing immunology and clotting testing, along with hysteroscopy to r/o anything other RE may have missed

Will have natural start, and do letrozole with 275IU gonal F 

 

UPDATE October 2016: Natural BFP while waiting to start IVF in November. We're floored! th_abfp.gif

1st Beta 685 at 16dpo

2nd Beta 2468 at 19dpo

3rd Beta 5445 at 22dpo

4th Beta 11,618 at 25dpo (why on earth is my RE doing so many Betas?!)

U/S 6w4d:  perfectly on schedule. HB 132. RE said there's only a 5% miscarriage rate at this point!

U/S 10w3d: growth still on schedule. HB 173.

Harmony results came back. Looks like a healthy GIRL!!!

 

#14 Yinafifa

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 01:37 PM

I'm with Dr. Soliman at Newlife also.  They have their success rates published on their website and his numbers are higher than those for the US averages using CDC numbers.  Echoing what was mentioned above, he's a great doctor, logical but not exactly the warm and fuzzy sort.  He's always working, I've had a transfer done on a Sunday (for example).  It absolutely gives a factory feel but I think that given the demand, that's just part of the deal.  Prices are reasonable, nursing staff is young but the ultrasound techs are very good at what they do.  



#15 sunnyside2020

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 08:45 AM

Create is cheaper but definitely not by 50%. The doctors do offer discounts so don't be afraid to ask. 

However, they are really busy! Can the lab handle the sudden increase in patients due to OHIP funding? That's the dilemma I have. I don't mind factory feel - but this worse than a factory. Cycle monitoring in the morning takes on average 1.5 hours. It's ridiculous. First, blood work, then ultrasound, then doctor, then nurse. It's just too long even if you see the doctors who come in early.

 

They say you can come till 9:30 am but the doctors start procedures then, and come back afterwards to see patients.



#16 WillB4

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 09:00 AM

We dealt with male factor infertility due to a balanced translocation. We were between Hannam and Dr Baratz at CReATe. We ended up w Baratz based on cost and gut feeling. I read someone say CReATe had a factory feel but I didn't feel that...I suspect all clinics slightly give off that vibe bc it's patient in and out constantly but that's the name of the game. I had a good experience w the clinic-admin/nurses/techs/and most importantly RE. I would highly recommend Baratz. He was efficient and straight forward and felt he ordered a good protocol for our situation and we ended up w three normal embryos. We transferred one last year and now have a two month old baby boy:) good luck w your choice! You really gotta go with your gut and well your wallet and what you can afford.


Baratz is our Dr too. Our transfer is scheduled I'm less than a week!

#17 Wishinandprayin

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 09:09 AM

Have you had a good experience w Baratz? Eeek transfer time is so exciting! It's a funny experience sitting in the room and seeing your bean transferred through a little milk door lol but emotional nonetheless! Good luck!
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#18 WillB4

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 12:32 PM

I have! He's been great! Definitely having a relaxing spa day before the transfer. So you actually watch it all happen on a monitor???

#19 Wishinandprayin

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 08:03 PM

WillB4,
Yes they do! You'll see your bean and they'll zoom in and then you see the embryologist hand Baratz this long skinny probe through the milk door and then Baratz will put it in lol not necessarily how you imagine conception to be haha but truly all worth it! Then you'll get a little picture..:looks like nothing but it's there! I literally sat in the room alone waiting for doc and hubby to come and cried. Couldn't believe I was so close to my dream coming true! And now that bean is sleeping beside me.
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#20 WillB4

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:57 PM

Awwwww love it!!! By the way what's a "milk door"?

#21 Wishinandprayin

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 09:53 PM

Haha sorry it just reminds me of the old fashioned milk doors people had in their houses where milk was delivered to the house and left in this little cubby where you could retrieve in from the inside of your house. Ever see one? My grandparents house has one haha and that's what it reminded me of at the clinic!
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#22 marin

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:57 PM

I'm totally biased, but I love Dr Virro at Markham Fertility.  He is an amazing doctor and once you're pregnant you stay on as his patient.  I have nothing but amazing things to say about this clinic.  Their cycle monitoring program runs like clockwork so you don't feel stressed in the AM.  Dr. Virro is very busy and runs behind sometimes, but it is a small price to pay to be his patient.

 

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Me: 39 DH: 40
Unexplained
7 IUIs, one chemical BFP in Nov/08
Switched clinics in Jan/09
IVF - March 2009
BFP on Mar 30th - Missed miscarriage at 12 week u/s. Baby stopped growing at 8w1d. We love you little angel.
FET #1 - July 2009 - BFN
FET #2 - September 2009 - BFN
FET #3 - February 10th 2010
02/16 - 02/22 - Positive HPTs!!!
Beta day - February 22nd (DH's birthday!) - BFP 404!!! (12dp5dt)
DD born October 27th, 2010 - We love our little angel!!
Natural Miracle BFP - November 22nd 2011
DD born July 26th, 2012
Last and Final FET
November 2016
Beta Day: November 28th

#23 Abrianna

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 10:21 PM

I'm totally biased, but I love Dr Virro at Markham Fertility.  He is an amazing doctor and once you're pregnant you stay on as his patient.  I have nothing but amazing things to say about this clinic.  Their cycle monitoring program runs like clockwork so you don't feel stressed in the AM.  Dr. Virro is very busy and runs behind sometimes, but it is a small price to pay to be his patient.
 
PM me if you'd like more information.


I had referral done to Dr Virro two weeks ago to get second opinion on cause of IVF cycle failure. Do you know how long it typically takes them to initiate contact after referral or should we be calling them?
Me:33 DH:37Dx MFI

Ottawa Fertility Centre:
IUI#1 Feb 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
1.5mil post wash BFN

IUI#2 April 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
400,000 post wash BFN

IVF#1 July 2016:long agonist protocol (bcp/suprefact, gonal-f 150iu, Ovidrel)
AFC 36, triggered early due to OHSS
12 mature eggs, 1 fertilized with ICSI
2dt BFP ended in CP

IVF #2 Nov 2016:long agonist protocol
(gonal-f 125 iu and luveris 75 added)
AFC 18, 3 eggs retrieved 2 mature, total ICSI failure

Moving on to new clinic and second opinions🤔

#24 marin

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 12:51 PM

Abrianna - It can take some time for them to get back to you.  I know when I started my FET cycle in early November they were accepting new patients so you should be good there.  I would call and follow up.  Tina is Dr V's secretary.  She doesn't usually pick up, but she should return your call.


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Me: 39 DH: 40
Unexplained
7 IUIs, one chemical BFP in Nov/08
Switched clinics in Jan/09
IVF - March 2009
BFP on Mar 30th - Missed miscarriage at 12 week u/s. Baby stopped growing at 8w1d. We love you little angel.
FET #1 - July 2009 - BFN
FET #2 - September 2009 - BFN
FET #3 - February 10th 2010
02/16 - 02/22 - Positive HPTs!!!
Beta day - February 22nd (DH's birthday!) - BFP 404!!! (12dp5dt)
DD born October 27th, 2010 - We love our little angel!!
Natural Miracle BFP - November 22nd 2011
DD born July 26th, 2012
Last and Final FET
November 2016
Beta Day: November 28th

#25 Abrianna

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:28 PM

Thanks Marin! We are booked with Dr. Hannam Dec 15 and Dr Virro Feb 21. Still debating a referral to Baratz. Here is hoping one of them will have an answer or idea about ICSI failure.
Me:33 DH:37Dx MFI

Ottawa Fertility Centre:
IUI#1 Feb 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
1.5mil post wash BFN

IUI#2 April 2016: gonal-f/centrotide
400,000 post wash BFN

IVF#1 July 2016:long agonist protocol (bcp/suprefact, gonal-f 150iu, Ovidrel)
AFC 36, triggered early due to OHSS
12 mature eggs, 1 fertilized with ICSI
2dt BFP ended in CP

IVF #2 Nov 2016:long agonist protocol
(gonal-f 125 iu and luveris 75 added)
AFC 18, 3 eggs retrieved 2 mature, total ICSI failure

Moving on to new clinic and second opinions🤔