Chiming in here. I had three failed IVF cycles using DH's sperm. We have severe male factor. Just had my IUI using DS and it was a success! I only have one tube, also am hypothyroid, and I just turned 37. I think our chances were less than 10% but we didn't have enough money to go to IVF again. I did acupuncture a few months leading up to my cycle and during. She did 2 points for something called the door of the infants I guess it worked!
JacMac is right, it's a crapshoot. I think it's great that you are going to try 3 IUI's before IVF. I've heard that if you are going to have success it will usually happen within the first 3.
Good luck quitting smoking and I hope you get to have success before moving onto IVF!
IUI or straight to IVF?
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 05:32 PM
<p><strong>Me</strong> - 38, one tube, slightly low OR <strong>DH</strong> - 35- severe MFI (usually 0 sperm) TTC #1 since 2008</p><p> </p><p>3 ICSI's with DH, 2 IUI's with DS = <strong>ALL BFN </strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>3rd DIUI </strong> Sep 2014</p><p>Clomid + Letrozole + Pregnyl trigger, 2 follies on left, 7mm lining at trigger, 19 mil post wash <strong>BFP!!!</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 06:21 PM
Fantastic news, abundant love!!!
How did you find being on the clomid?
How did you find being on the clomid?
Me: 38, DH: 36
AMH: 17.9, AFC: 35+, FSH day 3: 6
Dx: mild male factor, Asherman's, AMA
TTC since April 2013
Mmc: September 2013
Referred to Hannam fertility clinic December 2013
Hysteroscopic myomectomy: February 2014
LEEP: May 2014
Abdominal myomectomy: June 2014
Cleared to TTC September 2014
Monitored unmedicated cycle September 2014: BFN
Unmedicated IUI October 2014: BFN
IVF freeze all January 2015 = 11 eggs retrieved, 10 fertilized with ISCI, 3 day-6 blasts sent for CCS testing = 3 euploid (normal) embryos
TTC natural cycle February 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle March 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle April 2015: BFN
May 2015: referred for diagnostic hysteroscopy for possible Asherman's syndrome
May 2015: hysteroscopy results: atrophic uterus; variant of Asherman's syndrome
June 2015: proceeding with gestational carrier
October 2015: gestational carrier found
December 9 2015: one 3BB CCS normal blast transferred to GC; miscarriage at 6.5 weeks
Next steps: find new carrier, get 2nd diagnostic hysteroscopy
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Posted 10 October 2014 - 12:39 PM
Hi Alex,
I didn't really have any side effects from the Clomid, except for a thinner lining...maybe a couple hot flashes. They figured out I needed to start taking Estrace from days 7 to 11 or something to thicken the lining up. Other than that it was totally fine for me. I did Clomid combined with letrozole (Femara) and Estrace and my lining was 7mm at trigger...on the thin side but good enough.
I didn't really have any side effects from the Clomid, except for a thinner lining...maybe a couple hot flashes. They figured out I needed to start taking Estrace from days 7 to 11 or something to thicken the lining up. Other than that it was totally fine for me. I did Clomid combined with letrozole (Femara) and Estrace and my lining was 7mm at trigger...on the thin side but good enough.
<p><strong>Me</strong> - 38, one tube, slightly low OR <strong>DH</strong> - 35- severe MFI (usually 0 sperm) TTC #1 since 2008</p><p> </p><p>3 ICSI's with DH, 2 IUI's with DS = <strong>ALL BFN </strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>3rd DIUI </strong> Sep 2014</p><p>Clomid + Letrozole + Pregnyl trigger, 2 follies on left, 7mm lining at trigger, 19 mil post wash <strong>BFP!!!</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>
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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:51 AM
I had my first IUI today and a few things came up:
1) lining. My lining is thin - less than 6 today. My RE, Dr Hannam, said that many women have pregnancies with thin linings, so it's just a matter of seeing if I'm one of them.
2) PCOS. I have 50+ AFC (whhyyyyy??) and my LH: FSH is about 2:1. However, RE said this wouldn't affect fertility as we know I ovulate. This really flies in the face of everything I've been reading, but he said he's not concerned.
3) Sperm. This is the big one: my husband had 3 million post-wash. RE said it was poor, and if this didn't work, it was a sperm issue. I was very surprised. My husband seems to think its temporary. We've conceived together before.
So, while my hopes are low for this IUI, I'm glad I did it because it revealed this sperm issue.
1) lining. My lining is thin - less than 6 today. My RE, Dr Hannam, said that many women have pregnancies with thin linings, so it's just a matter of seeing if I'm one of them.
2) PCOS. I have 50+ AFC (whhyyyyy??) and my LH: FSH is about 2:1. However, RE said this wouldn't affect fertility as we know I ovulate. This really flies in the face of everything I've been reading, but he said he's not concerned.
3) Sperm. This is the big one: my husband had 3 million post-wash. RE said it was poor, and if this didn't work, it was a sperm issue. I was very surprised. My husband seems to think its temporary. We've conceived together before.
So, while my hopes are low for this IUI, I'm glad I did it because it revealed this sperm issue.
Me: 38, DH: 36
AMH: 17.9, AFC: 35+, FSH day 3: 6
Dx: mild male factor, Asherman's, AMA
TTC since April 2013
Mmc: September 2013
Referred to Hannam fertility clinic December 2013
Hysteroscopic myomectomy: February 2014
LEEP: May 2014
Abdominal myomectomy: June 2014
Cleared to TTC September 2014
Monitored unmedicated cycle September 2014: BFN
Unmedicated IUI October 2014: BFN
IVF freeze all January 2015 = 11 eggs retrieved, 10 fertilized with ISCI, 3 day-6 blasts sent for CCS testing = 3 euploid (normal) embryos
TTC natural cycle February 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle March 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle April 2015: BFN
May 2015: referred for diagnostic hysteroscopy for possible Asherman's syndrome
May 2015: hysteroscopy results: atrophic uterus; variant of Asherman's syndrome
June 2015: proceeding with gestational carrier
October 2015: gestational carrier found
December 9 2015: one 3BB CCS normal blast transferred to GC; miscarriage at 6.5 weeks
Next steps: find new carrier, get 2nd diagnostic hysteroscopy
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 10:43 AM
Good luck with your IUI, Alex!
I'm not an expert, so I really can't speak to any of your concerns. I have, however, I heard of people becoming pregnant with a 6 mm lining. The one thing I don't agree with is that if it doesn't work then it is solely a sperm issue. I've had over 25 million post wash and still BFN. Other people have have had much less and BFP. It's so much more than the ingredients.... I'm sorry I do not know a thing about PCOS.
Wishing you success! When is your test?
I'm not an expert, so I really can't speak to any of your concerns. I have, however, I heard of people becoming pregnant with a 6 mm lining. The one thing I don't agree with is that if it doesn't work then it is solely a sperm issue. I've had over 25 million post wash and still BFN. Other people have have had much less and BFP. It's so much more than the ingredients.... I'm sorry I do not know a thing about PCOS.
Wishing you success! When is your test?
<p><strong>Me</strong> - 38, one tube, slightly low OR <strong>DH</strong> - 35- severe MFI (usually 0 sperm) TTC #1 since 2008</p><p> </p><p>3 ICSI's with DH, 2 IUI's with DS = <strong>ALL BFN </strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>3rd DIUI </strong> Sep 2014</p><p>Clomid + Letrozole + Pregnyl trigger, 2 follies on left, 7mm lining at trigger, 19 mil post wash <strong>BFP!!!</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 01:45 PM
Thanks, abundant love! My preg test isn't until a week from Monday, but I'm pretty sure this was a fail. We had a meeting with Hannam yesterday and he was much more pessimistic than ever -- mostly because of my lining. He feels that's a huge hurdle to even IVF, as we can deal with sperm via ICSI. I'm pretty gutted. I do have very light cycles, other than when I had the fibroid. My lining was 6mm the day after I was triggered. He actually brought up a GS.
The plan is to do a freeze-all with PGD in January and then try to implant them in me after manipulating my endometrium. If that fails, it's on to GS. I was surprised to hear he was so optimistic about my egg quality though.
The plan is to do a freeze-all with PGD in January and then try to implant them in me after manipulating my endometrium. If that fails, it's on to GS. I was surprised to hear he was so optimistic about my egg quality though.
Me: 38, DH: 36
AMH: 17.9, AFC: 35+, FSH day 3: 6
Dx: mild male factor, Asherman's, AMA
TTC since April 2013
Mmc: September 2013
Referred to Hannam fertility clinic December 2013
Hysteroscopic myomectomy: February 2014
LEEP: May 2014
Abdominal myomectomy: June 2014
Cleared to TTC September 2014
Monitored unmedicated cycle September 2014: BFN
Unmedicated IUI October 2014: BFN
IVF freeze all January 2015 = 11 eggs retrieved, 10 fertilized with ISCI, 3 day-6 blasts sent for CCS testing = 3 euploid (normal) embryos
TTC natural cycle February 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle March 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle April 2015: BFN
May 2015: referred for diagnostic hysteroscopy for possible Asherman's syndrome
May 2015: hysteroscopy results: atrophic uterus; variant of Asherman's syndrome
June 2015: proceeding with gestational carrier
October 2015: gestational carrier found
December 9 2015: one 3BB CCS normal blast transferred to GC; miscarriage at 6.5 weeks
Next steps: find new carrier, get 2nd diagnostic hysteroscopy
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 07:07 PM
Thanks, abundant love! My preg test isn't until a week from Monday, but I'm pretty sure this was a fail. We had a meeting with Hannam yesterday and he was much more pessimistic than ever -- mostly because of my lining. He feels that's a huge hurdle to even IVF, as we can deal with sperm via ICSI. I'm pretty gutted. I do have very light cycles, other than when I had the fibroid. My lining was 6mm the day after I was triggered. He actually brought up a GS.
The plan is to do a freeze-all with PGD in January and then try to implant them in me after manipulating my endometrium. If that fails, it's on to GS. I was surprised to hear he was so optimistic about my egg quality though.
Have you tried acupuncture? It helps the lining. I have a thick lining anyway but after acupuncture, it was even thicker. It is good to do for a couple of months before transfer and twice on the day of transfer.
Good luck to you!
Age 40, DH 44 in Oct.
TTC on and off since 2007 before our second IVF, in 2014, brought us our beautiful son and our first FET brought us our second son in 2017. Our family is complete!
IVF #1 - April 2014 - BFN - no frosties
IVF #2 - July 2014 - BFP - 5B-AB and 4 frosties (5B-BB, 2x4B-BB and 3B-BB)
Apr. 13, 2015 - Daniel Erik was born at 5:05 am, weight 8 lbs, 13 oz, and 22" long. He is perfect in every way.
FET #1 - September 2016 - BFP - 5B-BB and 3 frosties (2x4B-BB and 3B-BB)
June 18, 2017 - Matthew William was born at 2:46 am, weight 8 lbs, 11 oz and 21" long. He is perfect in every way too!
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Posted 17 October 2014 - 10:42 AM
Hi Amp, yes I've started acupuncture and a special blend tea from the TCM practitioner--only 2 sessions so far. Here's hoping.
Me: 38, DH: 36
AMH: 17.9, AFC: 35+, FSH day 3: 6
Dx: mild male factor, Asherman's, AMA
TTC since April 2013
Mmc: September 2013
Referred to Hannam fertility clinic December 2013
Hysteroscopic myomectomy: February 2014
LEEP: May 2014
Abdominal myomectomy: June 2014
Cleared to TTC September 2014
Monitored unmedicated cycle September 2014: BFN
Unmedicated IUI October 2014: BFN
IVF freeze all January 2015 = 11 eggs retrieved, 10 fertilized with ISCI, 3 day-6 blasts sent for CCS testing = 3 euploid (normal) embryos
TTC natural cycle February 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle March 2015: BFN
TTC natural cycle April 2015: BFN
May 2015: referred for diagnostic hysteroscopy for possible Asherman's syndrome
May 2015: hysteroscopy results: atrophic uterus; variant of Asherman's syndrome
June 2015: proceeding with gestational carrier
October 2015: gestational carrier found
December 9 2015: one 3BB CCS normal blast transferred to GC; miscarriage at 6.5 weeks
Next steps: find new carrier, get 2nd diagnostic hysteroscopy
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