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#1 nicgro

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 08:56 AM

So this is going to sound stupid, but I am just starting my first IVF. I just finished up BCP and will be starting stims anytime between today and Monday (depending on my blood test from this morning). I am just a little confused because I went in for an ultrasound on Tuesday and the idiot who was on call told me that I have 10 follicles on my right ovary, and told me that he couldn't find my left. He actually went as far as telling me I didn't have one!

 

This morning I had to go in again and a different RE was on. She was super nice, and asked me if I have PCOS, I told her yes I do. At that point she called out to the nurse that I have 30+ follicles on my right side, and about the same on my left. She said she isn't going to count each and every one at this point cause I am only on day 3 and haven't even started stims. She said my biggest is 7.5x7.7.

 

None of this means anything to me, and I am extremely confused as to have I suddenly have 20 more. Does this sound right/normal? How many do the rest of you have starting out?

 

Thanks so much and best wish to you all :)


IVF #1

Oct 1, 2014 - 14 eggs retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 5 make it to blast

Oct 6, 2014 - Transfer 1 beautiful 4AA blast and freeze the remaining 4

Oct 15, 2014 - Start bleeding sad.png

Oct 17, 2014 - First Beta = 6   I know it's over, clinic is still trying to be positive

Oct 19, 2014 - Second Beta = 2  BFN

Oct 27, 2014 - Laparoscopy for Endo and ovarian cysts

FET #1

Feb 9, 2015 - Transfer 1 blast...clinic can't tell me the quality...isn't that weird?

Feb 22, 2015 - Beta = BFN sad.png

April 16, 2015 - Surgery to remove multiple uterine fibroids

Aug 24, 2015 - Take 3 month injection of Lupron Depot to try to help with endo pain/bleeding

Nov 24, 2015 - Take another 3 month injection of Lupron Depot

Feb 24, 2016 - Blood work and ultrasound. Was going to start prepping for FET, but thyroid is very low so need to increase meds before transfer

May 2, 2016 - start Estrace to prepare for FET (FET scheduled for May 18)

FET #2

May 18, 2016 - Transfer 1 blast...again not told what quality it is. Lose one blast in the thaw.

May 31, 2016 - BFN - I ask clinic what is going on and why this isn't working. They schedule me for a biopsy and sono.

June 9, 2016 - Biopsy and Sono performed. They find fibroids in my uterus and book surgery.

June 14, 2016 - Surgery to remove uterine fibroids

FET #3

September 20, 2016 - Transfer our final blast...stick baby stick

October 3, 2016 - BFN. I have never felt so broken in my life. Not sure I can continue on this journey, but must make a decision as just hours after getting my BFN, I get a call from my clinic saying that they made an error with my government funding and if I was going to continue, I must pay  everything back!!!

December 8, 2016 - Here we are again! Sono and biopsy to prepare for IVF #2 in January! They see something very small forming in my uterus, not large enough to operate on at this point though.

December 19, 2016 - Start Birth Control to prepare for next cycle.

January 7, 2017 - Have ultrasound done, everything looks good to move forward. Stop BC Pill.

IVF #2

January 23, 2017 - 12 Eggs retrieved, all mature, 7 fertilized

January 28, 2017 - Transfer 1 little 3AB blast, 5 still hanging in there and hope to freeze them tomorrow

 

 

 

 

 

 


#2 Anaïs

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:19 AM

congratulations on embarking on this adventure!

Sometimes the clinic only counts certain sizes of follicles or at the very beginning of a cycle, they don't really pay that much attention on how many as long as you have some at the beginning of cycle. At my first clinic, they counted every single one from the beginning, which now I think of it (after 5 cycles), it was not the best use of time. My current clinic, just put two smily faces in the system for baseline ultrasound to indicate you have some. So maybe the person you had only counted the good size ones (follicles can vary in sizes from the beginning). Sometimes ovaries go in hiding and it can be hard to see on ultrasound. They do move and perhaps your left decided to go in hiding at the beginning. Best of luck.


TTC since Dec. 09
Me (35) him (30)
Unexplained infertility but have only one ovary (lost right to dermoid cyst in Nov. 07) and he has low morphology (5%)

July 10 - Consultation at OFC
All test results normal (did not do Kruger test or AMH test) and was told to try for another 6 months
FSH around 6, antral foli count 9 (on the left)

Dec 10 - Asked to be transferred to MTL (OVO) from OFC
April 11 - Saw Dr. Jamal, antral folli count 8 (on the left) and AMH test show low ovarain reserve (due to a single ovary). Given Clomid for two cycles, had bad reaction (very cranky) and BFN. Dr. Jamal suggested Natural IVF without stimulation. Hated OVO dearly (long wait time, extreme lack of organization, nurses, etc). Googled and found MFC. Consultation booked in Sept. 11

Sept. 11 - Saw Dr. Sophia at MFC. She suggests a standard IVF.
Sept. 11 - Learned that private insurance thru work have coverage up to 20K for IVF (Thank goodness!)
Decided to go for 1st trial at OFC given proximity.

IVF #1 (Oct 11) at OFC (Dr. Haebe) - Puregon 400 IU for 9 days. 9 leading follicles (and 8 smaller ones), which resulted in 5 eggs (but one degenerated). Only 2 fertilized thru ICSI (embryo quality second best and average). Day 3 transfer of 2 embryos, which resulted in BFN

IVF #2 (Nov 11) at MFC - Puregon 300 IU and Menopure 75 IU for 10 days. 8 leading follicles (and some smaller ones). egg collection Nov. 16/11. 7 eggs collected out of 8 follies. 6 are mature and ALL SIX FERTILIZED!!! 5 day transfer of 1 blast Nov. 21/11. Beta scheduled Dec. 2nd 1st Beta 10dp5dt 287. 2nd beta scheduled Dec. 5th 2nd Beta 14dp5dt 1,524

1st U/S Dec. 19th (6wks & 6 days): heartbeat measured at 137bpm, baby measuring 7.2mm, cervix measured at 32.9mm

 

August 12, 2012: A beautiful baby girl born at 11:21 pm measuring 8 lbs 3 ounces/53 cm long

 

Trying for Number 2

October 7, 2013 - CD1

October 9, 2013 - First consultation

Start stimulation Friday October 11 (Puregon 300 & Menopur 75) for 10 days

Last us on October 21, 2013 7 leading follicles - Trigger shot tonight (Ovidral)

Retrieval October 23, 2013 - 6 eggs retrieved

Ferti report October 24, 2013 - 4 mature eggs and only 2 fertilized

At this point, I am losing hope.

Oct 25, 2013 - Surprisingly Dr. M. wants us in for 5 day transfer

ET October 28, 2013: one young blastocyst to transfer

2WW

8dp5dt HPT Positive yahoo.gif

Some spotting on 9dp5dt and 10dp5dt huh.png

Beta scheduled November 8,2013

1st beta 11dp5dt 106

2nd beta 14dp5dt 525.6

Viability scan scheduled Nov. 21, 2013

Viability scan shows fetus behind schedule by a couple of days

Repeat U/S

Discovered on Dec 10/2013 that fetus stopped growing at 7wk4days (Missed miscarriage)

 

2.2.

CD1 March 29. First consult on March 31. Same protocol.

Stimulated for 8 days trigger April 8. ER April 10. Out of 8 follicles, 6 eggs retrieved. Only 1 egg was mature & fertilized. Clinic recommends Day 2 transfer. We declined Day 2 transfer given this may be a complete waste.

Dr.M. understood our concern & agreed. Booked for a Day 5 transfer (but will be a miracle if this one embryo makes it to Day 5). Dr. M. advised that the embryo on Day 2 is 4 cell grade 1. So there is little hope.

Ok no call until Tuesday, which means we are going in for a transfer on Day 5. ET on April 15. Transferred an excellent quality blastocyst. Now 2WW. Blood test April 28. BFN

 

2.3.

CD1 August 18. First consult on August 19. Spoke with Dr. M about two wishes - minimum 10 day stimulation & 5 day transfer. Stimulated for 11 days. ER September 4. Out of 9 follicles, 6 eggs, 4 mature and all fertilized. Dr. M called and suggest double Day 3 transfer. However, DH veto a double transfer. Sticking to Day 5 transfer. ET September 9. Suprisingly out of 4 embryos on Day 3, 3 made to blastocysts. Transfer 1 Day 5 blastocyst. Shocking call the next day saying two left over embryos were good enough for freezing. 2ww Turned out to be a chemical pregnancy

 

2.3.1.

FET CD1 Sept 27 First consultation Sept 30 Oct 16 Transferred two blastocysts 2ww

Started nausea 3dp5dt it can`t be this early POAS 5dp5dt readable BFP! Wow

7dp5dt POAS show dark test line (never had such a strong positive)

Worried about risk of multiples

11dp5dt 1st beta at 382.8 13dp5dt 2nd beta at 850

Viability scan booked Nov 11th (6wk 4days)

Viability scan at 6w and 8w are both fine. Now graduated to OB.

NT scan in December 2015: all is good

Anotomy scan in Feb. 2015

 

 

 

 


#3 Watermelon

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:27 AM

Sounds possible if you have pcos. I had 13-15 per side before starting stims. I do not have pcos, but was told this was "borderline high" by one RE and "pcos like ovaries" by another as my ovaries are quite enlarged (I responded like a pcos patient on Stims with lots of follicles, sky high estrogen, and few mature eggs). Full pcos can certainly result in AFCs like yours. I'd be inclined to trust the count of the second RE who could actually find your ovaries!

Me -29 31 - unexplained poor egg quality.  I was told I had endometriomas.....but repeat ultrasounds at other clinics have said no sign of endometriomas. Maybe PCOS-like ovaries, but no PCOS - AMH, AFC are great. No one can explain why my eggs are so poor sad.png

DH 30 - severe teratospermia, count and motility are excellent.  

 

May 2014 - 2.5mg femara - BFN (ovulated night before)

June 2014 - IUI with 5mg femara - BFN (ovulated night before)

August 2014 -  IVF with ICSI - Antagonist protocol, 150Bravelle, 75 menopur, stimmed 8 days

                      - 19 follicles (all 15-22mm at trigger), 12 eggs retrieved, 7 mature,, 5 fertilized with ICSI sad.png

                      - only 7 mature eggs with an estrogen of 20000?! wtf?! Sigh...Freeze All

                       -only one BB Blast made it. Freeze "all" became "freeze one".  All others arrested between day 3 and 4 sad.png

 

January 2015 - FET of lone embryo  - c'mon little figher

                      - BFP!!! Beta 1 475 at 10dp5dt , Beta 2 - 1495 at 12dp5dt

 

 

 Baby boy born Sept 28/15


#4 amp77

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:41 AM

I had about 36 the first round and 24 the next round for the reason others have stated - some technicians only count ones of a certain size where others count them all.  The first time, she counted them all, next time, just ones over 3mm or so.  I asked her, where the others went and she said they are likely there but just small and she isn't spending time looking for them.

 

Good luck to you!


Age 40, DH 44 in Oct.

TTC on and off since 2007 before our second IVF, in 2014, brought us our beautiful son and our first FET brought us our second son in 2017.  Our family is complete!

 

IVF #1 - April 2014 - BFN - no frosties

 

IVF #2 - July 2014 - BFP - 5B-AB and 4 frosties (5B-BB, 2x4B-BB and 3B-BB)

Apr. 13, 2015 - Daniel Erik was born at 5:05 am, weight 8 lbs, 13 oz, and 22" long.  He is perfect in every way.

 

FET #1 - September 2016 - BFP - 5B-BB and 3 frosties (2x4B-BB and 3B-BB)

June 18, 2017 - Matthew William was born at 2:46 am, weight 8 lbs, 11 oz and 21" long.  He is perfect in every way too!

 

 


#5 nicgro

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 01:12 PM

thanks for all your help. Totally makes sense.

 

Good luck to all of you :) and Amp, congrats on BFP


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IVF #1

Oct 1, 2014 - 14 eggs retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 5 make it to blast

Oct 6, 2014 - Transfer 1 beautiful 4AA blast and freeze the remaining 4

Oct 15, 2014 - Start bleeding sad.png

Oct 17, 2014 - First Beta = 6   I know it's over, clinic is still trying to be positive

Oct 19, 2014 - Second Beta = 2  BFN

Oct 27, 2014 - Laparoscopy for Endo and ovarian cysts

FET #1

Feb 9, 2015 - Transfer 1 blast...clinic can't tell me the quality...isn't that weird?

Feb 22, 2015 - Beta = BFN sad.png

April 16, 2015 - Surgery to remove multiple uterine fibroids

Aug 24, 2015 - Take 3 month injection of Lupron Depot to try to help with endo pain/bleeding

Nov 24, 2015 - Take another 3 month injection of Lupron Depot

Feb 24, 2016 - Blood work and ultrasound. Was going to start prepping for FET, but thyroid is very low so need to increase meds before transfer

May 2, 2016 - start Estrace to prepare for FET (FET scheduled for May 18)

FET #2

May 18, 2016 - Transfer 1 blast...again not told what quality it is. Lose one blast in the thaw.

May 31, 2016 - BFN - I ask clinic what is going on and why this isn't working. They schedule me for a biopsy and sono.

June 9, 2016 - Biopsy and Sono performed. They find fibroids in my uterus and book surgery.

June 14, 2016 - Surgery to remove uterine fibroids

FET #3

September 20, 2016 - Transfer our final blast...stick baby stick

October 3, 2016 - BFN. I have never felt so broken in my life. Not sure I can continue on this journey, but must make a decision as just hours after getting my BFN, I get a call from my clinic saying that they made an error with my government funding and if I was going to continue, I must pay  everything back!!!

December 8, 2016 - Here we are again! Sono and biopsy to prepare for IVF #2 in January! They see something very small forming in my uterus, not large enough to operate on at this point though.

December 19, 2016 - Start Birth Control to prepare for next cycle.

January 7, 2017 - Have ultrasound done, everything looks good to move forward. Stop BC Pill.

IVF #2

January 23, 2017 - 12 Eggs retrieved, all mature, 7 fertilized

January 28, 2017 - Transfer 1 little 3AB blast, 5 still hanging in there and hope to freeze them tomorrow

 

 

 

 

 

 


#6 huron1209

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:37 PM

I had 11 follicles on both ovaries on AFC. RE told me technically having 12 or more follicles on each side is considered PCO. But I do have very long/irregular cycles and so he still labels me PCO.

 

I don't remember how many on my first U/S, but I do remember the doc on duty that day said I had lots of follicles. I had 15 follicles before ER, 11 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 7 fertilized by ICSI, ended with 1 day 5 blast and 2 day 6 blasts. 

 

My left ovary has been very shy, so it's hardly been seen on U/S vaginally. Docs at my clinic had to see it abdominally. 


Me: 367, DH: 478

PCOS and adenomyosis. Not sure which one is my primary fertility issue... 

Had a lap in May 2012 and then on Diphereline for six months.

3 clomid cycles. Not respond to clomid.

 

IVF#1:

Nov 2013: offered and accepted IVF BCP+antagonist protocol

Jan 16, 2014: started injections of gonal-f and luveris

Jan 20, 2014: started Cetrotide

Jan 24, 2014: coasting

Jan 25, 2014: HCG trigger shot

Jan 27, 2014: ER, 11 eggs, 9 mature

7 fertilized

Feb 1, 2014: ET one day 5 blast

Feb 2, 2014: two frozen day 6 blasts

Feb 14, 2014: official BFP

Mar 4, 2014 (about 7 weeks): Started to bleed, increased cramping 

Mar 7, 2014: Cramps became unbearable, even with prescription pain killers. Called ambulance and went to E.R. D&C next day. zjujfjf.gif

 

FET#1:

Apr 30, 2014: started BCP

May 19, 2014: started suprefact

June 3, 2014: started estrace

June 19, 2014: started endometrin

June 23, 2014: transferred 2 day 6 blasts

July 6, 2014: official BFP

July 8, 2014, beta decreasing

July 10, 2014, beta dropped below 25. chemical icon_cry.gif

July 16, 2014, ob/gyn ordered tests for recurrent pregnancy loss

 

Aug 15, 2014, consult with RE. Starting metformin

Sept 16, 2014, karyotypes come back normal, anticardiolipin also normal

Sept 18, 2014, finally reached RE after two days of calling clinic. OK for IVF #2.

 

Nov 3, 2014, AF came and called clinic

Nov 4, 2014, Offered and accepted IVF #2.

Dec 1, 2014, AF came & started injections

Dec 14, 2014, ER, 14 eggs retrieved, 12 mature

11 fertilized

Dec 19, 2014, ET 2 day-5 blasts, 4 day-5 blasts frozen

Dec 20, 2014, 2 day-6 blasts frozen

Dec 25, 2014, ER visit for increased heartbeats of 120/min. ER doc couldn't find a reason why, thought I was dehydrated. Found out my HCG level was 93 smile.png

Dec 29, 2014, admitted to hospital for severe OHSS

Jan 10, 2015, finally discharged from hospital. Drained 5.5L of fluid in total. One good thing about being admitted to hospital was they checked my HCG levels several time and did quite a few U/S so that I knew the progress of pregnancy

Jan 19, 2015, 7w U/S, two sacs, one heartbeat 141, measured at 7w

Feb 25, 2015, NT scan