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#1 Lola1973

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 04:41 PM

I heard that royal jelly can help with egg quality, is it true? Where is it sold?

What else could help? I already tried ubiquinol and DHEA. I produced more eggs but their quality still wasn't good.

Thank you Dr Fiona:)

Ttc first child for both of us since February 2012

Surgery and diagnosis of severe endometriosis Nov. 2012

IVF#1 April 2013: BFP8388.gif 9 weeks

IVF#2 Sept 2013: BFP8388.gif 9,5 weeks

Clinic 2:

IVF#3 May 2014: Embryo banking: 4 blasts

IVF#4 July 2014: Embryo banking: 3 blasts

PGS Result August 2014: All 7 blasts are abnormal... Moving on to DE.

Clinic 3:

Transfer #1 Feb. 2015: BFN

Transfer #2 June 2015: BFN

Transfer #3 Sept 2015: th_abfp.gifon hpt Sept 24!!!!

1st beta 12dp3dt: 421 2nd beta 14dp3dt:1025 Viability US (6w6d): One perfect baby measuring 7.0 weeks with HB of 130!!yahoo.gif

8- week US: Cutest little gummy bear measuring 8w1d

Harmony test 10weeks: Risk of trisomy 13, 18 and 21 under 1 in 10,000
20-week US: Baby girl right on track!

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#2 V016

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:01 AM

Hi Lola,

 

I heard the same and went and bough some 2 days ago. I am not sure if you are from Montreal or Markham because my clinic name is Markham Fertility Centre and we call it MFC and I know that Montreal Vertility Centre has the same so if you are from Montreal I am not sure where to get it but if you are from Toronto, I got mine at a health food store in the mall. I got the capsules because the raw stuff is gross. CoQ 10 is also something else that I have been on and it has improved my egg quality a lot. I use to take 400mg a day now I am on 800mg per day as per doctors advise (not mine another one I saw before thie current doctor)

 

Not sure if your dr. has recommended baby aspirin which helps to surpass NK. I have been on it for a while because I too have immune issues.  

 

I see in your siggi that you don’t have issues getting pregnant. I am really sorry about your losses. I recently went through a m/c myself and I never want to feel like that ever again. I don’t even wish that on my worst enemy…

 

PM me if you have any questions. I do a lot of research for everything i buy so feel free to message me anytime.


Me:30 Immune Issues DH:34 TTC since 2009

IVf #1 outside the country. Cant remember the details but was a BFN

3 IUI's with clomid BFN. why isn't this working...In process of doing immune testing. Have to do 2 LIT's and IVIG

LIT #1 April 2013
LIT #2 May 2013 Currently taking Metformin, PregVit, Vitamin D 200iu.Septum surgery May 24, 2013.
LIT boost with donor blood August 2013.September 9 Endo Biopsy and blood test.

IVF #2 October! ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 4 fertilized, ET October 27. 2 Made it to transfer day. Transferred 1 (3AB) 1 (5BB) left to freeze. 8dp5dt HPT BFN latter that day AF showed. November 6 BETA BFN

FET#1 December 16, 2013. Beta December 27. 7dp5dt hpt positive!!! I can't believe it!! Beta #1 December 27 Low Beta #2 December 29 77 still low but it has doubled. Beta #3 December 31 28 Stopped all meds m/c January 4, 2014 at 5 weeks

IVF#3 April 2014. Gonal F and Repronex. ER April 9. Beta #1 11dp5dt 364 Beta #2 14dp5dt 894 Bets #3 16dp5dt 1590 Beta #4 18dp5dt 3,311 No more betas thank God! Ok maybe one more Beta #5 21dp5dt 10,838 Now I mean it no more betas!! Viability u/s May 16 Ultrasound #1 at 5 weeks 5 days due to some bleedingwas only 99 bpm. U/S #3 at 7 weeks 5 days. Baby measured 6 weeks 2 days. Dr. said to take the pills as this is a m/s or to wait few weeks. U/S #4 at 9 weeks. Baby still measuring 6 weeks 2 days. U/S # 5 at 10 weeks. Is official. Baby stopped developing at 6 weeks 2 days. Took Misoprostol to induce m/s.M/S "10" weeks.

FET # 2 August 2014 htp 6dp5dt BFP Beta #1 12dp5dt 291Beta #2 14dp5dt 625 U/S #1 at 6 weeks 5 days. All looks good. Measuring 2 days behind heartbeat 124 bpm U/S #2 at 8 weeks. Measuring on track. Heartbeat 156 bpm.

19 week u/s We are having a GIRL!!!! May 2015 our daughter is here

IVF# 4 October 12, 2016.  ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 7 fertelized. ET October 27 transferred 1 blastocyst 5AB. Froze 4 blastocyst on day 5. 5dp5dt HPT Negative. 7dp5dt HPT fait positive. Beta November 8 595!! Beta November 10 1650! Viability u/s November 29.

#3 Lola1973

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:02 PM

Thank you so much for your info, Vio. I am at Markham too but live several hours away. I went there because I trusted them:) I found they were not just applying a recipe, but trying to understand what was happening.

I am sorry for your MC. It is very difficult when you feel you are almost there to loose your pregnancy...

Yes, I got pregnant twice... through IVF. Never on my own. When tested, liquid didn't flow through my tubes... They are probably too damaged by endo...

It looks like my biggest issue is egg quality. Not surprising at 40 with endo. But as I said this last time I tried Ubiquinol and DHEA and still, none of the embryos were normal... How useful is it to have more eggs if none are good enough to become a baby?? Honestly, I am not sure how much I still want to continue treatment. The hope to get one well hidden good egg is pretty small... Maybe I'll try one more time (with the jelly!). Not sure yet. In a reflexion period.

Sorry if I am not more positive. But with that PGS result, I had a bit of a reality check...

Thanks again for your info and best of luck to you:)

Ttc first child for both of us since February 2012

Surgery and diagnosis of severe endometriosis Nov. 2012

IVF#1 April 2013: BFP8388.gif 9 weeks

IVF#2 Sept 2013: BFP8388.gif 9,5 weeks

Clinic 2:

IVF#3 May 2014: Embryo banking: 4 blasts

IVF#4 July 2014: Embryo banking: 3 blasts

PGS Result August 2014: All 7 blasts are abnormal... Moving on to DE.

Clinic 3:

Transfer #1 Feb. 2015: BFN

Transfer #2 June 2015: BFN

Transfer #3 Sept 2015: th_abfp.gifon hpt Sept 24!!!!

1st beta 12dp3dt: 421 2nd beta 14dp3dt:1025 Viability US (6w6d): One perfect baby measuring 7.0 weeks with HB of 130!!yahoo.gif

8- week US: Cutest little gummy bear measuring 8w1d

Harmony test 10weeks: Risk of trisomy 13, 18 and 21 under 1 in 10,000
20-week US: Baby girl right on track!

Lilypie Pregnancy tickers


#4 DrFionaMcCulloch

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:27 PM

Yes, royal jelly does appear to be beneficial!  It contains a wide variety of nutrients that have been traditionally used to impact egg quality.  

 

Good luck and I hope that it is helpful for you as well. 

 

Dr. Fiona


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#5 Lola1973

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 04:09 PM

Thank you Dr Fiona.
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Ttc first child for both of us since February 2012

Surgery and diagnosis of severe endometriosis Nov. 2012

IVF#1 April 2013: BFP8388.gif 9 weeks

IVF#2 Sept 2013: BFP8388.gif 9,5 weeks

Clinic 2:

IVF#3 May 2014: Embryo banking: 4 blasts

IVF#4 July 2014: Embryo banking: 3 blasts

PGS Result August 2014: All 7 blasts are abnormal... Moving on to DE.

Clinic 3:

Transfer #1 Feb. 2015: BFN

Transfer #2 June 2015: BFN

Transfer #3 Sept 2015: th_abfp.gifon hpt Sept 24!!!!

1st beta 12dp3dt: 421 2nd beta 14dp3dt:1025 Viability US (6w6d): One perfect baby measuring 7.0 weeks with HB of 130!!yahoo.gif

8- week US: Cutest little gummy bear measuring 8w1d

Harmony test 10weeks: Risk of trisomy 13, 18 and 21 under 1 in 10,000
20-week US: Baby girl right on track!

Lilypie Pregnancy tickers


#6 Pharoah

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:37 AM

Hi there, I'm new to the forum.  I searched other relevant topics before starting a new one and came across this chat.  I have questions regarding the use of Royal Jelly.  Is it (more?) recommended to have the Royal Jelly in honey form or are the capsules just as effective?  I can't seem to find the liquid form, but have come across plenty of health food stores in Toronto that carry capsules. Any suggestions or recommendations? Thank you.



#7 V016

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:03 PM

Hi i got the row stuff from a Chinese store. But capsules work the same.

Good luck
Me:30 Immune Issues DH:34 TTC since 2009

IVf #1 outside the country. Cant remember the details but was a BFN

3 IUI's with clomid BFN. why isn't this working...In process of doing immune testing. Have to do 2 LIT's and IVIG

LIT #1 April 2013
LIT #2 May 2013 Currently taking Metformin, PregVit, Vitamin D 200iu.Septum surgery May 24, 2013.
LIT boost with donor blood August 2013.September 9 Endo Biopsy and blood test.

IVF #2 October! ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 4 fertilized, ET October 27. 2 Made it to transfer day. Transferred 1 (3AB) 1 (5BB) left to freeze. 8dp5dt HPT BFN latter that day AF showed. November 6 BETA BFN

FET#1 December 16, 2013. Beta December 27. 7dp5dt hpt positive!!! I can't believe it!! Beta #1 December 27 Low Beta #2 December 29 77 still low but it has doubled. Beta #3 December 31 28 Stopped all meds m/c January 4, 2014 at 5 weeks

IVF#3 April 2014. Gonal F and Repronex. ER April 9. Beta #1 11dp5dt 364 Beta #2 14dp5dt 894 Bets #3 16dp5dt 1590 Beta #4 18dp5dt 3,311 No more betas thank God! Ok maybe one more Beta #5 21dp5dt 10,838 Now I mean it no more betas!! Viability u/s May 16 Ultrasound #1 at 5 weeks 5 days due to some bleedingwas only 99 bpm. U/S #3 at 7 weeks 5 days. Baby measured 6 weeks 2 days. Dr. said to take the pills as this is a m/s or to wait few weeks. U/S #4 at 9 weeks. Baby still measuring 6 weeks 2 days. U/S # 5 at 10 weeks. Is official. Baby stopped developing at 6 weeks 2 days. Took Misoprostol to induce m/s.M/S "10" weeks.

FET # 2 August 2014 htp 6dp5dt BFP Beta #1 12dp5dt 291Beta #2 14dp5dt 625 U/S #1 at 6 weeks 5 days. All looks good. Measuring 2 days behind heartbeat 124 bpm U/S #2 at 8 weeks. Measuring on track. Heartbeat 156 bpm.

19 week u/s We are having a GIRL!!!! May 2015 our daughter is here

IVF# 4 October 12, 2016.  ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 7 fertelized. ET October 27 transferred 1 blastocyst 5AB. Froze 4 blastocyst on day 5. 5dp5dt HPT Negative. 7dp5dt HPT fait positive. Beta November 8 595!! Beta November 10 1650! Viability u/s November 29.

#8 Pharoah

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:32 PM

Ok.  Thanks for the response.  How many capsules did you take per day?  I'm reading conflicting stuff, where ppl took it 3 times in between meals and some say they only took it once a day.



#9 DrFionaMcCulloch

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:50 PM

For our patients, we usually recommend freeze dried (in capsules) - standardized to 6% 10-HDA content. 

 

Typical doses are from 500-1500mg per day.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Dr. Fiona 


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phone (416) 730-8218



 
 

#10 Pharoah

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:41 PM

Thank you :)



#11 V016

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 10:38 PM

Ok.  Thanks for the response.  How many capsules did you take per day?  I'm reading conflicting stuff, where ppl took it 3 times in between meals and some say they only took it once a day.

I took 1000mg per day. And they were freeze dried capsules.


Me:30 Immune Issues DH:34 TTC since 2009

IVf #1 outside the country. Cant remember the details but was a BFN

3 IUI's with clomid BFN. why isn't this working...In process of doing immune testing. Have to do 2 LIT's and IVIG

LIT #1 April 2013
LIT #2 May 2013 Currently taking Metformin, PregVit, Vitamin D 200iu.Septum surgery May 24, 2013.
LIT boost with donor blood August 2013.September 9 Endo Biopsy and blood test.

IVF #2 October! ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 4 fertilized, ET October 27. 2 Made it to transfer day. Transferred 1 (3AB) 1 (5BB) left to freeze. 8dp5dt HPT BFN latter that day AF showed. November 6 BETA BFN

FET#1 December 16, 2013. Beta December 27. 7dp5dt hpt positive!!! I can't believe it!! Beta #1 December 27 Low Beta #2 December 29 77 still low but it has doubled. Beta #3 December 31 28 Stopped all meds m/c January 4, 2014 at 5 weeks

IVF#3 April 2014. Gonal F and Repronex. ER April 9. Beta #1 11dp5dt 364 Beta #2 14dp5dt 894 Bets #3 16dp5dt 1590 Beta #4 18dp5dt 3,311 No more betas thank God! Ok maybe one more Beta #5 21dp5dt 10,838 Now I mean it no more betas!! Viability u/s May 16 Ultrasound #1 at 5 weeks 5 days due to some bleedingwas only 99 bpm. U/S #3 at 7 weeks 5 days. Baby measured 6 weeks 2 days. Dr. said to take the pills as this is a m/s or to wait few weeks. U/S #4 at 9 weeks. Baby still measuring 6 weeks 2 days. U/S # 5 at 10 weeks. Is official. Baby stopped developing at 6 weeks 2 days. Took Misoprostol to induce m/s.M/S "10" weeks.

FET # 2 August 2014 htp 6dp5dt BFP Beta #1 12dp5dt 291Beta #2 14dp5dt 625 U/S #1 at 6 weeks 5 days. All looks good. Measuring 2 days behind heartbeat 124 bpm U/S #2 at 8 weeks. Measuring on track. Heartbeat 156 bpm.

19 week u/s We are having a GIRL!!!! May 2015 our daughter is here

IVF# 4 October 12, 2016.  ER October 22. 8 retrieved, 7 fertelized. ET October 27 transferred 1 blastocyst 5AB. Froze 4 blastocyst on day 5. 5dp5dt HPT Negative. 7dp5dt HPT fait positive. Beta November 8 595!! Beta November 10 1650! Viability u/s November 29.

#12 Ellainner

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 03:11 AM

Can we took it during  stimulation?

 

Thank you!



#13 lesnic

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 03:00 PM

I take the Royal Jelly in the liquid (honey form) with my oatmeal in the morning to help mask the taste.

 

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#14 Spencemom

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:14 PM

I was just eating a spoonful of royal jelly honey daily and had 30 eggs retrieved with 8 PGS blasts frozen. I also took Ubiquoinal. So not sure if that helped but my doctor did seem surprised.

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4 losses before 9 weeks

1 baby w/ anencyphaly

1 year of acupuncture
IVF 2016 - 8 healthy PGS blasts
2 rounds of LIT (spouse and donor)
2 rounds of Humira for high cytokines (50)

Currently waiting for cytokines to reduce before FET
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