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#1 sweetsummer

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 09:07 AM

Hi I just want to know if the ER time does not happen on the right time what would be the possible concequences? what is the best time between trigger shut and egg retrival? what if this time passes?

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 09:14 AM

I'm not a doc or andrologist but would expect that the risk of going much beyond the 24-26 hours post trigger range would be that the eggs would be released before they could be collected for use in IVF. If all the eggs are released before they can be collected, no IVF can take place; if some remain and can be collected then you might be able to go ahead but obviously with fewer shots at finding the "golden egg" than you might have had. FWIW, both mine were closer to 36 hours than 24.

 

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History: ectopic; late miscarriage
Many child 'free' years
Success on 2nd IVF (Halleujah! and happy 44th birthday to me!)
SHE'S HERE! SHE'S HERE!Born 05/11/2010 8:25pm. 5 lbs 13 ozs of absolute sunshine!
Tea parties, mud pies, and glitter!
Exploring options for IVF#3 (OE).
Test results appear promising and we are greenlighted.
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All 4 on board; beta set for 04/17/14. Second beta scheduled for 04/21/14. 3rd beta set for 04/23/14. Sono to see what might be going on set for 04/24.
Waiting game is over; another ectopic.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 09:41 AM

It's actually about 36 hours. We did our shot at 11 pm, had a day off from all shots and then did my retrieval the day after that in the morning.
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Trying to conceive since our wedding day May 25, 2008.
Started Clomid Jan-April 2012.
Referred to RFP June 2012.
First consult at RFP November 2012.
First IVF cycle on antagonist protocol (GonalF, Luveris) January 2013.
Transferred two day-3 embryos, had severe OHSS, lost one twin between 7-13 weeks but was expecting one little one October 2013.
Found out at 6 mos that our little one had died weeks earlier and had to induce and deliver stillborn, July 25, 2013.
Something found on adrenal gland at follow up ultrasound, MRI showed what seems to be a benign tumor.
Meeting with specialist Jan 8, 2014 - all fertility treatments on hold. :/
Tumor is definitely producing Aldosterone (causes high blood pressure) and most likely Cortisol - more tests and surgery in the horizon. Then hopefully cycling before too long.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 11:50 AM

Hi I just want to know if the ER time does not happen on the right time what would be the possible concequences? what is the best time between trigger shut and egg retrival? what if this time passes?

Thanks in advance.

 

We were told we had 36 hours from time of trigger to collection. My trigger was at 11:30pm and we had to be at the clinic not the next day but following day. They time it out for you so there should be no worries. They stagger when people do their triggers so they are able to do retrieval after retrieval. Best of luck. 


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TTC since 2000
Unexplained Secondary Infertility (Had a son while a teen and gave him up for adoption)
March 2000- M/C @ 11 weeks
January 2001- M/C @ 9 weeks
February 2003- M/C @ 8 weeks
2004-2007- 6 Cycles of clomid and natural conception- BFN
November 2009- IUI with injectables- BFN
February 2010- IUI with injectables- BFN
May 2012-Consult with KRF. Re-due blood tests and prep for IVF
June 2012-Started taking Estrace for estrogen priming protocol
Blood test to see why af hasn't started. BFP with low numbers. Chemical Pregnancy
IVF#1 (KRF/Genesis)--July 29, 2012- Estrogen Priming Protocol
August 19-Egg Retrieval 20 eggs; 18 fertilized; 11 made it to Day 5
August 24- Transferred 1 Blast; Froze 4 (the rest didn't make it overnight to Day 6)
Sept 2-Took HPT (Faint Positive)
Sept 5-Beta 3 (BFN--Another Chemical)
FET#1(KRF/Genesis)-Oct 30 2012 On Estrace and Prednisone. Transferred 2 blasts (Had to thaw 3-one didn't make it. One left in the freezer)
Nov 13 2012- Beta- BFN

FET#2(KRF/Genesis) -Nov 16,2013 BETA Nov 27--Chemical Pregnancy 

 

IVF#2 (KRF/Olive)Consult Jan 27. (Doing CCS & immune treatments this cycle)

Estrogen Priming Starts February 19, 2014 YAY!!!!

STIMS START March 1, 2014

Retrieval Mar 13, 2014. 17 eggs retrieved, 16 of which mature and 15 fertilized. 

11 made it to blast and were biopsied and frozen. 5 NORMAL BLASTS yahoo.gif

FET with next af (transfer May, hopefully). 

FET transfer with One Normal Perfect Embryo May 15, 2014

5dp5dt--Faint positive on hpt. Darker on 6dp5dt yahoo.gif

BETA--May 26, 2014 (FX this is it)

ANOTHER F**KING chemical--beta 21 th_agrr.gif

FET#2--Lining scan on July 15. Lining at 10mm and dominate follicle is at 19mm. Waiting on ovulation to time transfer. Here we go again. FX this is it!!!

TRANSFER July 21, 2014--1 PGS Normal Blast

 


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 12:25 PM

Dear mouse ,JacMac, and waiting forbfp
Really thanks you for all your responses.
Dear Mouse, I guess 36 is the ultimate time but I feel you are correct. At my clinic my doctor got stuck in snow and had to Ferlinghetti from Windsor to Toronto and we did ours late. I suspect that I had lost my golden ones too. But I am looking for a doc to proof. They were very nervious but didn't tell us anything. I feel sth wrong!!!
Wish you all best of luck

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

Thanks for catching my typo JacMac - I had meant 24 to 36 hours of course (per the labelling on my ovidrel shot).


me 48, he 50 30 years together!
History: ectopic; late miscarriage
Many child 'free' years
Success on 2nd IVF (Halleujah! and happy 44th birthday to me!)
SHE'S HERE! SHE'S HERE!Born 05/11/2010 8:25pm. 5 lbs 13 ozs of absolute sunshine!
Tea parties, mud pies, and glitter!
Exploring options for IVF#3 (OE).
Test results appear promising and we are greenlighted.
4 mature eggs retrieved 04/06/14. All fertilized normally; scheduled for transfer on 04/09/14.
All 4 on board; beta set for 04/17/14. Second beta scheduled for 04/21/14. 3rd beta set for 04/23/14. Sono to see what might be going on set for 04/24.
Waiting game is over; another ectopic.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:18 PM

There will be a bit of a window to aim for. 36 hours should be near the start of that window. If the retrieval is done too soon the eggs will not have released from the wall of the follicle and those follicles will seem empty, too late and you will have ovulated. If they weren't seeing ruptured follicles (those that have ovulated already) and they were getting eggs you should be okay (other than being even more stressed than you would have been anyways).

Good luck with everything!
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July 2012 - referred for fertility treatment

Feb 2013 - IUI  #1 BFN

March 2013 - IUI #2 BFN

April 2013 - IUI #3 BFN

June 2013 - suspected appendicitis, emergency surgery turns out to be a ruptured ovarian cyst but they took the appendix as well just to be safe.  Fortunately, it shouldn't impact IVF.

July 28 2013 - Accepted for IVF

Aug 8th - start Suprefact

Aug 22nd - ultrasound and bloodwork look good, starting stims

Aug 31 - second ultrasound after starting stims.  Not good.  Maternal age, and possibly my remaining cyst, seem to be impacting egg production.  We will see what the next ultrasound shows.

Sept 5 2013 - ER went way better than expected based on the last two ultrasounds. 12 eggs! Early guess by RE is 10 probably mature, 2 probably not.

Sept 6 2013 - 11 eggs were mature and all fertilized with ICSI

Sept 7 2013 - 8 embryos still going strong!Sept 9 2013 - 7 good quality embryos, 1 straggler. Going in for a 5 day transfer tomorrow.

Sept 10 2013 - transfer of two 5 day blasts. The 2WW begins.

Sept 11 2013 - 4 frozen blasts

Sept 16 2013 - stick says pregnant!  Waiting for official results.

Sept 19 2013 - 9dp5dt beta 248

Sept 21 2013 - 11dp5dt beta 584

Sept 23 2013 - 13dp5dt beta 1468

Oct 11 2013 - ultrasound - twins!! 

Nov 18th 2013 - Two babies looking good.

Dec 31 2013 - babygirl.gif babygirl.gif  

March 5 2014 - Cervix very thin at 28 weeks.  Hopefully the babies stay put a while longer

April 18 2014 - baby girls arrived at 34w 1d and came home after a 10 day stay in the NICU.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:26 PM

Thanks Crazy for the reply.
Anyway my first attempt got failed and I feel so depressed and want to cry loudly every day. I have to focus and think what I should do for the next round!
Take care

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:30 PM

I am so sorry sweetsummer.

July 2012 - referred for fertility treatment

Feb 2013 - IUI  #1 BFN

March 2013 - IUI #2 BFN

April 2013 - IUI #3 BFN

June 2013 - suspected appendicitis, emergency surgery turns out to be a ruptured ovarian cyst but they took the appendix as well just to be safe.  Fortunately, it shouldn't impact IVF.

July 28 2013 - Accepted for IVF

Aug 8th - start Suprefact

Aug 22nd - ultrasound and bloodwork look good, starting stims

Aug 31 - second ultrasound after starting stims.  Not good.  Maternal age, and possibly my remaining cyst, seem to be impacting egg production.  We will see what the next ultrasound shows.

Sept 5 2013 - ER went way better than expected based on the last two ultrasounds. 12 eggs! Early guess by RE is 10 probably mature, 2 probably not.

Sept 6 2013 - 11 eggs were mature and all fertilized with ICSI

Sept 7 2013 - 8 embryos still going strong!Sept 9 2013 - 7 good quality embryos, 1 straggler. Going in for a 5 day transfer tomorrow.

Sept 10 2013 - transfer of two 5 day blasts. The 2WW begins.

Sept 11 2013 - 4 frozen blasts

Sept 16 2013 - stick says pregnant!  Waiting for official results.

Sept 19 2013 - 9dp5dt beta 248

Sept 21 2013 - 11dp5dt beta 584

Sept 23 2013 - 13dp5dt beta 1468

Oct 11 2013 - ultrasound - twins!! 

Nov 18th 2013 - Two babies looking good.

Dec 31 2013 - babygirl.gif babygirl.gif  

March 5 2014 - Cervix very thin at 28 weeks.  Hopefully the babies stay put a while longer

April 18 2014 - baby girls arrived at 34w 1d and came home after a 10 day stay in the NICU.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:33 PM

Thanks. Best of luck for you
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

I have never heard of someone ovulating 24 hours after trigger. I was always told your egg goes through it's final maturation process after trigger and then is released 36-48 hours afterward. If 24 hours was common to ovulate they wouldn't wait for the 36 hour mark to do retrieval for IVF or everyone would have no eggs to retrieve. 



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:16 PM

Oh I have never heard of 48 hours too !!!
Anyway thanks for the reply.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

Oh I have never heard of 48 hours too !!!
Anyway thanks for the reply.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

Oh I have never heard of 48 hours too !!!
Anyway thanks for the reply.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

Oh I have never heard of 48 hours too !!!
Anyway thanks for the reply.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

Oh I have never heard of 48 hours too !!!
Anyway thanks for the reply.