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#26 2ndchance

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 07:46 PM

Hi Lisa, so glad things went well. I bet you are excited to get those results! Awesome you could sneak in earlier too! As for me it has been 3 weeks since I asked to be scheduled in for a lap and I am still waiting for them to tell me what day :( getting super annoyed about that. They could have told me it would take a while. The receptionist made it sound like she was going to call me back the next day with an appointment. I am trying to let work know as I am taking a leave from work for this and my next cycle; hopefully only one! I am not a patient person lol!

me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#27 Lisa1981

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:57 AM

Awww that sucks... what if you called them and bug them everyday, LOLL. Maybe they would get so annoyed that they would schedule you asap :D. Timing work and all these procedures is hard. Especially if you have to give a few days/weeks notice to your employer. I'm not a patient person either, so I know how you are feeling.


Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


#28 2ndchance

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

I think that's my plan, to keep harassing them!! I'll let ya know when I get a date!
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me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#29 2ndchance

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:48 PM

Hey Lisa, how are things? We called the clinic today and now they are telling us that we won't hear about a date till maybe January. Also I probably won't get surgery till March which means I won't start IVF till around may or June!!! I am so upset right now. I hope you have better news.

me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#30 Lisa1981

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:53 AM

Omg... that is suck a long wait.... Is there a way you can see another doc (like a regular ob/gyn) and have a lap done at a hospital... That's really not fun. As if what you are going thru isnt stresfull enough. I do understand they have many patients and all, but still...

 

I saw my local ob/gyn and got the results from my u/s and the gallons of blood I gave them a month ago, loll. I'm not sure how I feel right now (in a good way..) U/S showed a "mass" so next stop... MRI. But my blood test... everything came back normal BUT... my androgen levels and DHEA where elevated. He then explained that with elevated male hormones (my testosterone was normal), my ovaries are not working like they should (explaining the low AFC). I ask about my FSH levels during the luteal phase and he said they were great... he then asked: Why? where you told you were heading toward menopause, I said yes... he laugh... he said NO, you are not... I said but my results on day 3 were at 13.. he said yes, however; the lab you went to have a normal cut-off value of 15... so you are in the norm for that lab. If you would have went to lab with cut off values lower then that, your values would have been lower (which they have). He then told me, that if I go to a lab that the RE has no experience with and doesn't look at the labs normal values, my results cannot be interpreted properly.

 

So I had repeat blood test and i now have to get an MRI.. Now to wait 2 months for it.. blah...


Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:23 AM

Hi Lisa, I am not sure that it would take me just as long to go through my regular ob/gyn. I tried getting in to see him earlier and they said I had to wait over a month just to see him. I imagine I would then have to wait another month or so for the surgery. Currently I am on the waiting list to have surgery at mcmaster hospital in Hamilton. From what I hear the 4 month wait is typical. I think I will look into other possibilities though. I'm just so upset that they kept telling me I would be having surgery in 2 months. I've already waited a month just waiting for an appointment time! That's awesome news for you though! Well I guess in a way, but not so cool they found a mass. Maybe that's the issue though and then just ironing some things out. Great that you finally found someone who knows their stuff! Did he say what his plans were to fix the androgen levels, or is that what the extra bloodwork is for? That's strange that different labs use different reference values. Guess we are both waiting again. I hope your results shed some more light!
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me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#32 Lisa1981

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:46 AM

Waiting just plain sucks... I wish we could by pass all this waiting... :( I really hope you get that call telling you that you are going in for surgery very soon.

 

My doc did say there's a way to reduce the androgen and DHEA levels but I don't really know what it is yet...  It's weird because I have no sign of high androgen levels. But i'll just have to wait... loll


Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


#33 2ndchance

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:09 PM

I hate the waiting! Thanks, I am just so anxious to find out what is going on in me.... even though I pretty much know. Good luck to you on your wait lol!

me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#34 Lisa1981

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 08:20 PM

Right back at you 2ndchance :D. I hope your waiting ends soon ajigl.gif


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Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


#35 Diemtee

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:32 PM

Hi 2ndchance, I'm reading your posts and I can relate 100%! I left my previous clinic and by chance I got in on a cancellation and only waited a month to get into my new clinic. Had the first appointment a few weeks ago, was told I had endo (something my previous clinic failed to pick up on!). Today, I called to find out what was happening with my lap since I still haven't got a date... At the appointment, I was told that I'd have a date by now. Today I find out that I won't get a phone call about my lap til March. Jeez I wish they had just told me from the getgo what the realistic wait time would be like... I feel like I'm getting depressed from all the waiting...

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 03:53 PM

Lisa!

 

I just read your timeline!!! OMG congrats!!! That is awesome.  I will be crossing my fingers for you!!  Good Luck and hope that little bean sticks!!!!

 

Diemtee, 

 

yup, that's what I went through... it's so frustrating!!!!  I asked to book a Lap back in October,  I am finally getting my surgery at the end of March!  I didn't find out my surgery date until about 2 months before my date.  The waiting definitly sucks. 

 

I was just told that they want me to do another IUI after my surgery.  I wanted to start IVF right away and now more waiting!!!! they said I needed to wait a month after the surgery anyways.  I just hope that my IVF cycle doesn't get pushed back more because of that.  I am getting so anxious about it all!


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me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol

 


#37 Lisa1981

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:15 PM

2ndchance: FINALLY, you got your date. Omg, that took for EVER. Many woman get pregnant naturally after a lap (if endo or something else is found) so maybe an iui isn't a bad idea.

 

Thank you for your encouragement. I need all the good vibes I can get :)


Me: 33 - DH: 36

July 2012: referred to Ottawa fertility center
August 2012: Test results are back
High FSH, Low AFC (only 6)
Endo (duuuh) & DOR  (great....)

And may has well make it a trio...male factor (motility)

 

After 2 failed IUIs, 5 Failed IVF:

Trying on our own until spring come's along... 

 

Feb 09: A little Miracle, a natural BFP. Praying it sticks around for 9 months.

Feb 11: Beta 25 (yikes)- P4: 47 oh boy, put on progesterone

Feb 13: Beta 86 - P4: 144

Feb 18: Beta 544 - P4: 96

Feb 20: Beta 1128 - P4: 81... increased progesterone to 600mg

Feb 24: Beta 1608 - P4: 100... oh boy, not looking promissing

Feb 25: Beta: 1942 (no P4) at another hospital.. ok, looking better... U/S: sac and yolk. Nothing else.

March 04: HB 115. Problem: Sac is small... repeat u/s next week

March 14: U/S , HB (abdominal) 167bpm (internal) 158bpm. Problem: Sac still small, reapeat u/s in 10 days..

March 24: U/S confirmed no HB.. stop progesterone. M/C that same evening


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:53 PM

Hi Lisa!

 

I know, I am soooo hoping the Lap is the ticket for me!  I am just going back and forth over the IUI, my last 2 hurt so bad!!  But I guess its better than doing IVF if I don't need to right away. 

 

I am just growing impatient lol!

 

I am so happy for you, your Betas look great :)


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me 35, Dh 37, Dd 3

Endo

tty #2  2yrs

July 2012 BFP-Chem/ mc 5wkscry.gif

Sept 2013 IUI 1-puregon BFN

Oct 2013   IUI 2-Puregon BFN

                  IUI 3-Gonal F BFN

Laproscopy/hysteroscopy-endo diagnosed stage 2/3

April 2014  IUI 4-femara 2.5mg

                 - ovulated before IUI-BFP- Chem/ mc 4wkscry.gif

June/july 2014 IVF#1- BCP, 200ug puregon, ug Hcg, suprefact.

                                    converted to IUI, 7 follies, only 3 of mature size. BFN

                                    told I have DOR? waiting for AMH results- thought this was already ruled out wtf?!

                                      th_agrr.gif

August 2014 IVF#2- short protocol