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Study Shows Women Are Starting Families Later In Life Because They Are Spending Longer In Education


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#1 Bud

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:00 AM

A study by the University of Southampton has shown that women are having children later in life mainly because they are spending longer in education...

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:59 AM

...because it is a constructive alternative to sitting by the phone waiting for a man-child to call you.

In this culture we teach our boys not to settle down, to wait for something better, that marriage/committed relationships will be the end of them. The result? Legions of fabulous single women...waiting. No, taking back their power and getting on with life.

I know too many intelligent and beautiful single women who would LOVE to be mothers, but time and the single men who think they are Peter Pan have not been on their side.

Then if she strikes out on her own to build a family it opens up a new set of judgement.

All too often we blame the women.

These studies are short-sighted.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:16 AM

Well, it is totally normal, and know for the long time A few hundreds years ago, when women were not allowed to go to school, their purpose was to serve their man and give birth birth. Even today , in countries where women has no rights, they force marry them as teenagers and they start to producing babies when they are 16 or 18 the latest.
It is the contraceptions that gave women the power to choose when to have their children. The ability to delay childbearing combined the right for education freed the women.
Unfortunately while a high school education and maybe a 1 or 2 yr collage was plenty to get a good paying job a few decades earlier, we need higher and higher education level today to get a good job.

I do not think there is any of the genders out there to "blame". Both gender get higher education,because it is required on the workforce. This obviously delay childbearing. Not to mention the financial burden of settling down and start a family is much higher today then it was. People always wanted financial stability and a home to raise their children.
Today an average house in Canada cost $350,000, which is doubled! within a single decade and quadrupled since the 70's. Although the average salary risen too, but far less sharply. Today a young couple need a much longer time to accumulate enough wealth to purchase a home then it needed a few decades ago.
Back then most couple bought a home soon after marrying. Today couples live in rent for years and years to save up for the down payment and even after that their pay a much higher % of their income to mortgage then they used to.
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#4 Gillian

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:14 PM

This really isn't new news - I clearly remember agonising as a teen in the late 70s and early 80s about how on earth I could be a young Mum with any sort of career - my role model was my Mum who had 7 years of nursing education and quit on the spot once she married and had her first baby at 26. She never really worked again. Mind you, I didn't meet and marry my husband until I was 32, so worried probably for nothing. I have to say, I would LOVE to be a stay at home Mum at this point.
Women do have it tough with the pressure to advance career-wise and the urge to start a family (I know there are stay at home dads, just not that many). And lots of my Uni friends either never had children or were into their 30s. Just a fact of life nowadays for many.
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#5 impatient

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:09 AM

They needed to do a study to figure that out?!

It seems like women just can't win. If you go to school for years and years so that you can get a good job that might allow you to afford to raise a family, then you're foolish for waiting 'too long', but then if you don't go to school or get a job because you want to take advantage of your 'prime' childbearing years, well then you're foolish for not getting an education or a job that will allow you to provide.

Ope - sigh ... I wish you could buy a house for $350,000 in Vancouver ...
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