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Wheatgrass Juice Royal Jelly CoQ10 Mucuna High FSH

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#1 iskwew

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:26 AM

Hello Dr.

I am currently taking frozen Wheatgrass Juice, Royal Jelly, CoQ10, Mucuna & Materna plus acupuncture for high FSH; we also have male factor. The fertility clinic is concerned about my egg quality and reserve. I feel so much healthier during my stimulated IUI cycle (Puregon injections) after taking the supplements (I had horrible side effects first time stimming with no supplements) but I have some concerns...

Three Questions:

1. Is it safe to take these all together?

2. Should I stagger when I take them? (I take RJ & WJ in am CoQ and Mucuna with breakfast & Materna with lunch)

3. Most importantly, after the IUI should I stop taking any of the supplements? I was told NOT to take the wheatgrass juice or the CoQ10 by one person at health food store & then told by another that taking all of them during 2 WW would not hurt chances of implantation or pregnancy.

I've done a lot of research on all of the above but can't seem to find a consistent answer. I understand that one must treat Natural medicines like pharmaceutical ones in that they can be dangerous or counteract one another.

I hope you can help.

Thank You
Me: 39 DH: 41

TTC since Sept. 2008
Nov. 2009 - DH - motility and morphology issues
Dec. 2009/Jan. 2010 Clomid, Ovidrel, & IUI - I react horribly to Clomid, stick it through - produce 2 follies
mid Jan - BFP!!! Can't believe it!!
Feb. 14. 2010 - M/C...not a Happy Valentines Day - I am devastated to lose this little one
April 2012 - start TTC again; FSH is 18 plus right tube looks blocked DR is concerned
May 2012 - DH numbers have drastically improved!!! Vitamins/exercise/no heat all paid off
May 2012 - my FSH is 15 - IUI is cancelled; fearful I will not have any eggs - I'm devastated - first time it was him, now me?
meet with DR - do AMH test (supposed to be more accurate than FSH) decide to do IUI irregardless of FSH #'s although DR thinks I won't respond
May 2012 - Have 2 acupuncture treatments
June 16 2012 - day 3 start of 200 ml Puregon
June 21 - swelling in hands, feet, breasts, & abdomen - severe pain go to ER - cyst burst
June 22 - u/s & blood work - I am responding (yay!), but no sign of over-stimulation; told to take dose of Puregon
June 22 - clinic calls & tells me my E. numbers look too high - they are afraid I'm overstimulating told to not take next dose
June 23 - u/s & blood work - four follies but all on right side; sono showed blockage but laproscopy 4 years ago showed both clear
June 24 - Ovidrel shot @ 10 pm
June 25 - packing my bags to go to TO for IUI in am! a bit of cramping from Ovidrel but nothing too serious
June 26 - IUI at 11 am - three follies 11, 17, & 19 - E2 levels good - DH's numbers good -
June 27 - the dreaded TWW begins... I'm already going crazy & its only day 1
July 11 - Beta is negative... sniff sniff... round 2 begins...
July 12 - start taking natural supplements - Royal Jelly, frozen Wheatgrass Juice, CoQ10
July 15 - day 3 of AF start stimming again same dose of Puregon - FSH has dropped - 11 this time
July 20 - two follies 15 and 16 both on right side :-( - on the plus side no crazy swelling this round - just some bloating & some emotional outbursts
July 21 - trigger tonight with IUI on Monday....
Aug 8 - Negative again - Round 3 - It does feel like a boxing ring & I do feel like I've just been knocked down. I'm so sad.
Aug 10 - day 3 u/s - 3 follies - two on left (11 & 12)!!!! one on right (12)... I hope hope hope the left side matures...started stimming today. FSH is now 8.5 with normal E2 numbers! It has continually dropped!
Aug. 17 - IUI number 3...left follie 2.1 - right 1.7 - DH's numbers normal & best they've ever been. Surged on my own so no trigger. Could this be the month?
Sept. 3 - BFN... heartbreak - RE wants us to move to IVF, but I need to take some time to get my spirit back.

#2 iskwew

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:25 PM

To answer my own question... all of the supplements and the acupuncture combined with no caffeine, no alcohol, no smoking, a healthy diet (no sugar, high protein, low carb, high veggies) and walking everyday are working at least when it comes to my FSH - it has lowered consecutively in the last 4 months from 18, to 15, to 11 to 8.5 with normal Estridol levels so it is not being artificially suppressed. Still not sure about the 2 ww - I only took the Materna, COQ10, and Wheatgrass this last cycle...
Me: 39 DH: 41

TTC since Sept. 2008
Nov. 2009 - DH - motility and morphology issues
Dec. 2009/Jan. 2010 Clomid, Ovidrel, & IUI - I react horribly to Clomid, stick it through - produce 2 follies
mid Jan - BFP!!! Can't believe it!!
Feb. 14. 2010 - M/C...not a Happy Valentines Day - I am devastated to lose this little one
April 2012 - start TTC again; FSH is 18 plus right tube looks blocked DR is concerned
May 2012 - DH numbers have drastically improved!!! Vitamins/exercise/no heat all paid off
May 2012 - my FSH is 15 - IUI is cancelled; fearful I will not have any eggs - I'm devastated - first time it was him, now me?
meet with DR - do AMH test (supposed to be more accurate than FSH) decide to do IUI irregardless of FSH #'s although DR thinks I won't respond
May 2012 - Have 2 acupuncture treatments
June 16 2012 - day 3 start of 200 ml Puregon
June 21 - swelling in hands, feet, breasts, & abdomen - severe pain go to ER - cyst burst
June 22 - u/s & blood work - I am responding (yay!), but no sign of over-stimulation; told to take dose of Puregon
June 22 - clinic calls & tells me my E. numbers look too high - they are afraid I'm overstimulating told to not take next dose
June 23 - u/s & blood work - four follies but all on right side; sono showed blockage but laproscopy 4 years ago showed both clear
June 24 - Ovidrel shot @ 10 pm
June 25 - packing my bags to go to TO for IUI in am! a bit of cramping from Ovidrel but nothing too serious
June 26 - IUI at 11 am - three follies 11, 17, & 19 - E2 levels good - DH's numbers good -
June 27 - the dreaded TWW begins... I'm already going crazy & its only day 1
July 11 - Beta is negative... sniff sniff... round 2 begins...
July 12 - start taking natural supplements - Royal Jelly, frozen Wheatgrass Juice, CoQ10
July 15 - day 3 of AF start stimming again same dose of Puregon - FSH has dropped - 11 this time
July 20 - two follies 15 and 16 both on right side :-( - on the plus side no crazy swelling this round - just some bloating & some emotional outbursts
July 21 - trigger tonight with IUI on Monday....
Aug 8 - Negative again - Round 3 - It does feel like a boxing ring & I do feel like I've just been knocked down. I'm so sad.
Aug 10 - day 3 u/s - 3 follies - two on left (11 & 12)!!!! one on right (12)... I hope hope hope the left side matures...started stimming today. FSH is now 8.5 with normal E2 numbers! It has continually dropped!
Aug. 17 - IUI number 3...left follie 2.1 - right 1.7 - DH's numbers normal & best they've ever been. Surged on my own so no trigger. Could this be the month?
Sept. 3 - BFN... heartbreak - RE wants us to move to IVF, but I need to take some time to get my spirit back.

#3 DrFionaMcCulloch

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

Hi Iskwew,

thanks for your questions!

Yes it is safe to take them all together and you don't need to stagger them. It is best to take CoQ10 with food or an oily supplement like Omega 3 fatty acid.

You can take them all up until a positive pregnancy test. I would stop the mucuna after the IUI though.

Thanks for your question!

Dr Fiona
Dr. Fiona McCulloch, BSc., ND : Naturopathic Doctor, Integrative Women's Health & Fertility
White Lotus Integrative Medicine
Greenfield Ave, Suite 201
North York, Ontario, M2N 3CBCanada
phone (416) 730-8218



 
 





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