Comparring IVF at Hannam and Markham
#1
Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:37 AM
I was wondering if there's anyone on here who's had experience with both Hannam and Markham and what their thoughts are. I'm having a really difficult time deciding where to do my IVF.
I'm scheduled for an IUI at Hannam for my next cycle and I also have a consultation appointment with Dr. V in June.
Can someone who's been to both, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease help me decide?
ME: 38, DH: 39
Trying to conceive since 2007
Natural pregnancy #1: 2007: seven weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
Natural pregnancy #2: 2008: six weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
IVM 1: 2010: BFN
IVM 2: 2011: BFN
IVM 3: 2011: BFN
Changed clinic: MFC
Explored immune testing with AEB: July/August 2012
Suggested Immune treatment: 2 LIT, 1 IVIG, Lovenox and Aspirin
LIT 1: September 2012
LIT 2: October 2012
Got clearance to cycle from AEB
Started BCP: October
November 14: Day 2 of cycle got cancelled due to high estrogen levels and cyst
December: BCP
January: starting IVF #1
#2
Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:59 AM
I will send you a PM. I have been a patient of both doctors.
Leigh
Dx: DH: Vasectomy; need IVF/ICSI ME: D.O.R. and many immunological issues. (Initially presented as "normal" but issues were only discovered after IVF attempt #2 and #3 after testing at new clinic)
IVF attempt #1 Nov.2009, Age 37: Long "Lupron" protocol
Dec.2009: Cycle cancelled due to oversuppression
IVF attempt #2, Age 38: April 2010: 3 eggs retrieved, 2 mature, 2 fertilized, ET of 2 embryos BFN
IVF atempt #3 at new clinic: November 2010, Age 38: 5 eggs retrieved, 4 mature, 4 fertilized, ET of 2 blastocysts BFP
Strong beta numbers but babies not measuring on track but one heartbeat is present. Followup u/s reveals no HB's Had D&C--so sad.
Moved to new clinic closer to home + more of a focus on testing for potential immunological factors:
Further testing reveals three mutations related to inherited thrombophilia (2 MTHFR mutations and PA1-1 mutation), positive ANA, elevated NK cells and cytokines and low levels of leukocyte antibodies (LADS), Recommended Immunological treatment: Humira, LIT, IVig and blood thinners if PG
IVF Protocol: Low stim for me/ TESE needed for DH; took Humira in late August and early September; taking DHEA plus Co-Enzyme Q10, vitamins for DH just for good measure! September--two trips to Mexico for LIT treatment, treatments 3 weeks apart
Initial re-testing through Alan Beer Centre after some of the immune treatments reveals only cytokines were lowered, NKs still high and LAD numbers still low. Another LIT in Mexico is recommended. We decide to begin cycle on doctor's recommendation of just doing IVIG.
IVF#4, Age 39 : November 2011: Worst AFC EVER--a whopping 4! Three follicles responded, two eggs were retrieved. Three day transfer of two Grade 1 8 cell embryos: "Fahita" & "Burrito" Stick, stick, stick little ones!
BFP! Beta of 569
Viability u/s at 6 w 2d shows TWO babies measuring on track with heartbeats of 121. Looks like babies might be sharing the same amniotic sac.
Second u/s at 7w 2 d shows ONE baby with hb of 150, measuring 7 w 3 days. No sign of twin. Vanishing twin syndrome?
Third u/s at 8 w 2d shows ONE baby with hb of 170, measuring 8 w 3 days. Looks like a little jellybean!
12 week u/s at 12 w 2 days and baby is measuring 12 w 5 days with a heart beat of 150. Baby mooned us and waved at us with one hand....looked like a "royal" wave to me!
13 week doctor's appointment, HB=155 on doppler
14 week u/s to check cervix, HB=148
16 week u/s to check cervix, HB=138, baby had hiccups!
20 week u/s--everything looks good! HB=130, looks like we're having a GIRL!
IPS results very good!
39 weeks: Our baby girl arrived!!! She is healthy and beautiful! We are so happy!
#3
Posted 09 March 2012 - 12:09 PM
Me 38 & DH 40 TTC since July 2008
March 2009: m/c
July 2009: m/c
April 2010: BFP - Sadly Baby diagnosed with Cystic Hygoma and Trisomy 21. D&E at 16 weeks
Oct 2010: m/c due to Trisomy #3
March 2011: m/c
IVF#1 - September 2011 with PGD on my eggs (Chemical)
March 2012 - Septum Surgery for uterine septum & immune testing with Allan Beer & treatments
IVF#2 - July 2012 (BFN)
December 2012 - Surgery to remove uterine adhesions from previous D&C
IVF#3 - February 2013 (Chemical) - 5 blast frosties
April 2013 - Natural BFP ! Perfect Baby boy born January 2014 !
TTC #2
February 2015 - FET (BFN)
May 2015 IUI#1 (BFN)
August 2015 IUI#2 - BFP !!!
November 2015 - Panorama results are in and we are team PINK !!!
Beautiful Baby Girl born May 22, 2016
#4
Posted 09 March 2012 - 12:11 PM
Looking forward to your thought!!
ME: 38, DH: 39
Trying to conceive since 2007
Natural pregnancy #1: 2007: seven weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
Natural pregnancy #2: 2008: six weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
IVM 1: 2010: BFN
IVM 2: 2011: BFN
IVM 3: 2011: BFN
Changed clinic: MFC
Explored immune testing with AEB: July/August 2012
Suggested Immune treatment: 2 LIT, 1 IVIG, Lovenox and Aspirin
LIT 1: September 2012
LIT 2: October 2012
Got clearance to cycle from AEB
Started BCP: October
November 14: Day 2 of cycle got cancelled due to high estrogen levels and cyst
December: BCP
January: starting IVF #1
#5
Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:28 PM
#6
Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:11 AM
Thank you,
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ME: 35, PCOS
HUBBY: 38, Low Motility
TTC since 2007
My signature is starting to get a bit crazy!!!!
IUI 2007-2008 - 4 failed IUI attempts (1 chemical)
IVF #1 FEB 2010 - Conversion from IUI to IVF.20 eggs retrieved - 2 transfered. 9 frozen - BFP
06/29 - Our little Sebastian was born, spent an hour in his parents arms, then moved on to heaven.
FET #1 NOV 2010 - Sooner than expected - Here we go again! - BFN
FET #2 DEC 2011 - Mentally I think I am ready, but are we ever really ready? - BFN
IVF #2 FEB 2012 - BFN! Again!
IVF #3 JUN 2012 - ER only - ET cancelled due to polyps. Only 1 frozen blast disapointing cycle.
IVF #4 AUG 2012 - Our last chance - BFP!
After the joy of learning we were pregnant - we were filled with fear as our little one was diagnosed with an Omphalocele. We have been given a 50/50 chance of carrying to term. EDD - May 18, 2012
Valentines Day 2013 - Our little Cristiano is born @ 25w5d, 910g
Still in the hospital....
#7
Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:34 AM
Leigh
Dx: DH: Vasectomy; need IVF/ICSI ME: D.O.R. and many immunological issues. (Initially presented as "normal" but issues were only discovered after IVF attempt #2 and #3 after testing at new clinic)
IVF attempt #1 Nov.2009, Age 37: Long "Lupron" protocol
Dec.2009: Cycle cancelled due to oversuppression
IVF attempt #2, Age 38: April 2010: 3 eggs retrieved, 2 mature, 2 fertilized, ET of 2 embryos BFN
IVF atempt #3 at new clinic: November 2010, Age 38: 5 eggs retrieved, 4 mature, 4 fertilized, ET of 2 blastocysts BFP
Strong beta numbers but babies not measuring on track but one heartbeat is present. Followup u/s reveals no HB's Had D&C--so sad.
Moved to new clinic closer to home + more of a focus on testing for potential immunological factors:
Further testing reveals three mutations related to inherited thrombophilia (2 MTHFR mutations and PA1-1 mutation), positive ANA, elevated NK cells and cytokines and low levels of leukocyte antibodies (LADS), Recommended Immunological treatment: Humira, LIT, IVig and blood thinners if PG
IVF Protocol: Low stim for me/ TESE needed for DH; took Humira in late August and early September; taking DHEA plus Co-Enzyme Q10, vitamins for DH just for good measure! September--two trips to Mexico for LIT treatment, treatments 3 weeks apart
Initial re-testing through Alan Beer Centre after some of the immune treatments reveals only cytokines were lowered, NKs still high and LAD numbers still low. Another LIT in Mexico is recommended. We decide to begin cycle on doctor's recommendation of just doing IVIG.
IVF#4, Age 39 : November 2011: Worst AFC EVER--a whopping 4! Three follicles responded, two eggs were retrieved. Three day transfer of two Grade 1 8 cell embryos: "Fahita" & "Burrito" Stick, stick, stick little ones!
BFP! Beta of 569
Viability u/s at 6 w 2d shows TWO babies measuring on track with heartbeats of 121. Looks like babies might be sharing the same amniotic sac.
Second u/s at 7w 2 d shows ONE baby with hb of 150, measuring 7 w 3 days. No sign of twin. Vanishing twin syndrome?
Third u/s at 8 w 2d shows ONE baby with hb of 170, measuring 8 w 3 days. Looks like a little jellybean!
12 week u/s at 12 w 2 days and baby is measuring 12 w 5 days with a heart beat of 150. Baby mooned us and waved at us with one hand....looked like a "royal" wave to me!
13 week doctor's appointment, HB=155 on doppler
14 week u/s to check cervix, HB=148
16 week u/s to check cervix, HB=138, baby had hiccups!
20 week u/s--everything looks good! HB=130, looks like we're having a GIRL!
IPS results very good!
39 weeks: Our baby girl arrived!!! She is healthy and beautiful! We are so happy!
#8
Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:28 PM
you'll get lots of insight from these girls in regards to your question...
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions also. I'm at Hannam at the moment.
ME: 38, DH: 39
Trying to conceive since 2007
Natural pregnancy #1: 2007: seven weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
Natural pregnancy #2: 2008: six weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
IVM 1: 2010: BFN
IVM 2: 2011: BFN
IVM 3: 2011: BFN
Changed clinic: MFC
Explored immune testing with AEB: July/August 2012
Suggested Immune treatment: 2 LIT, 1 IVIG, Lovenox and Aspirin
LIT 1: September 2012
LIT 2: October 2012
Got clearance to cycle from AEB
Started BCP: October
November 14: Day 2 of cycle got cancelled due to high estrogen levels and cyst
December: BCP
January: starting IVF #1
#9
Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:32 PM
Can you please PM me your opinions as well of MFC vs. Dr. Hannam?
I am getting a referral to an FC next week and have generally been set on MFC because of all of the positive feedback I've heard of Dr. V. I've heard Dr. Hannam is very good as well recently in another forum, but truthfully, I really don't want to go downtown when there's a supposedly a great clinic located more conveniently close to home.
I am debating whether to make an appt with Dr. Garcia at MFC instead of Dr. Virro though, because of the long wait time...
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
#10
Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:58 AM
DH:35 Oligozoospermia
TTC since June 2009
First SA done Oct 2010
Feb 25th 2011 First visit to urologist
April 7th 2011 Second visit to urologist
April 11th 2011 First visit to Fertility Clinic
April 2011 First IVF cycle-BFN
Nov 1st 2011 ET-FET-BFP-Chemical
Took some time off
Sept 2012-changed clinic got referred to Dr G at Markham Fertility Oct 2012- found huge Septum and Uniconate Uterus
March 2013- Septum removal, turns out it was a huge adhesion not a septum
May 2013- 2nd IVFMay 10- ERMay 15- transferred 1 4AB blast
May 24 9dp5dt- early beta 56
May 27 12pd5dt- 2nd beta 252
Jan 15th 2014- Beautiful Baby Girl was born.
#11
Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:51 PM
I have had numerous rounds of failed IUI and IVF cycles at create and I just received my BFN few days ago regarding my latest cycle.
I am losing hope and devastated...
I wish I don't have to worry about $$ but I have used up my savings to do those rounds of treatments... I would like to switch clinic because I can only afford one more IVF financially... and hope to get the best doctor possible... Could you please PM me your thoughts about Markham Fertility Centre and Hannam? And which doctors are the best in those clinics?
Thanks a lot.
TTC since 2009
One ovary, low AMH, high FSH, poor responder, DOR, low LAD, a little high NK
Clinic 1: HSG, hysteroscopy
IUI#1 - Aug 2011: BFN
IUI#2 - Sep 2011: BFN
IUI#3 - Oct 2011: BFN
IVF/ICSI#1 - Nov 2011: BFN
Started CoQ10 and DHEA
IVF#2/IUI#4 - Feb 2012 converted to IUI due to low response: BFN
IVF/ICSI#2 - July 2012 (with Fragmin): BFN
Stopped DHEA due to acne issues. Continue CoQ10
Switch Clinic Oct 2012
Clinic 2: Immune testing
Started Vit D and Pregvit5
2xLIT - Jan/Feb 2013
IVF#3 - Mar/Apr 2013 (with IVIG, Lovenox): BFN
Natural IVF#4 - Oct 2014 (with intralipid, Lovenox, HCG support): BFN
#12
Posted 10 August 2012 - 05:31 PM
Bambi, if you dont mind could you please forward me those PMs you earlier? And please do write about your experience with Hanman.
#13
Posted 10 August 2012 - 07:20 PM
I'll pm you as soon as I can!! In case I forget... send me a quick reminder ok? Just heading out now...
ME: 38, DH: 39
Trying to conceive since 2007
Natural pregnancy #1: 2007: seven weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
Natural pregnancy #2: 2008: six weeks, left ectopic (treated with Methotrexate)
IVM 1: 2010: BFN
IVM 2: 2011: BFN
IVM 3: 2011: BFN
Changed clinic: MFC
Explored immune testing with AEB: July/August 2012
Suggested Immune treatment: 2 LIT, 1 IVIG, Lovenox and Aspirin
LIT 1: September 2012
LIT 2: October 2012
Got clearance to cycle from AEB
Started BCP: October
November 14: Day 2 of cycle got cancelled due to high estrogen levels and cyst
December: BCP
January: starting IVF #1
#14
Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:33 PM
I'm new here and facing the same choice of Markham (Garcia) vs Lifequest (Redmond). I'd really appreciate any thoughts or guidance!
#15
Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:08 PM
Hi all,
I'm new here and facing the same choice of Markham (Garcia) vs Lifequest (Redmond). I'd really appreciate any thoughts or guidance!
Hello Sunandsky (cool name!)
Welcome to the community and I hope your journey is short and fulfilling.
I cycled with Dr. Redmond at LQ and Dr. Virro at Markham. I have met and also talked to Dr. Garcia (she performed a biopsy and sono on me...not in that order, though. )
Dr. Redmond is conservative, very organised and is not a believer in things like immunological issues having an impact on fertility. A purist, of sorts. If you want things that are a little more progressive (like an endometrial biopsy, you'll have to initiate and follow-up if you want that to be part of your protocol.)
I say she is a good fit if you do not have a complex case, but this kind of thing is only discovered over time and seldom from the very start.
Although I have mot cycled with Dr. Garcia, the Markham clinic is open to exploring immunological issues and will do the testing and treatment. Dr. Virro has more experience with that.
Markham has very good results for frozen transfers.
If you can see both to help you decide I say it would not hurt. No doctor has 100% approval and two people can visit the same doctor and have completely different opinions about that professional. There things I liked about Dr. Redmond, but there other things that were challenging about dealing with her. I wish she had noticed the septum that took up 75% of my uterus, but not all REs believe septums impact fertility and implantation.
Wishing you the very best in your decision and treatment.
#16
Posted 14 December 2014 - 08:54 PM
Hi,
I hope I am not too late in this subject.
I am currently a patient of Dr Hannam, planning iui next month.
However, I got an appointment from Dr. Virro, earlier than I thought (i got referal on November and got an appointment in Feb, although I expected more than 6months of waiting)
My plan was trying upto 2-3 ivf with Dr. Hannam then move to Dr Viro in case I am not concieved until the time,
but now I have choice of starting IVF with Dr. Virro.
Can anybody give me an advice on this?
I would deeply appreciate if you could share experience with both doctors and your opinion on it via PM.
Thank you!
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iui #1 (Unmedicated)
Jan 5 CD1
Jan 14 CD10 Follicle 1.13
Jan 16 CD13 Follicle at 1.45 Lining 0.81
Jan 18 CD 14 Follicle 1.55 Lining 0.78 (seems to be wrong)
Jan 19 CD15 Ovideral (9am) + iui #1 (12:20pm), Follicle at 1.65 Lining 1.10, DH: 75million/96% mobility after wash
Jan 20 CD 16 iui#2, Follicle at 1.80, DH: 45 million/96% motility after wash
iui #2 (Medicated)
March 12 CD1
March 13 CD2, Started menopur 75 iu
#17
Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:12 PM
#1 IUI on Dec 12/14 on CD15 - 50mg clomid CD 5-9, Gonal F @ 75iu cd 7-12, beautiful 25 mm follicle,Trigger cd 13, 12 mil swimmers post wash2ww Dec 12 - 24/14 -->>> 10-16 dpiui - HPT all negative; 15 dpiui - went for beta - waiting for results - - > Beta less than 2
#2 IUI - Jan 17/15 on cd 17 - same protocol, 2 follicles at 21mm each! Yay! 16 mil post wash; 2ww - Jan 17-29th - BFN
#18
Posted 03 January 2015 - 08:28 PM
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iui #1 (Unmedicated)
Jan 5 CD1
Jan 14 CD10 Follicle 1.13
Jan 16 CD13 Follicle at 1.45 Lining 0.81
Jan 18 CD 14 Follicle 1.55 Lining 0.78 (seems to be wrong)
Jan 19 CD15 Ovideral (9am) + iui #1 (12:20pm), Follicle at 1.65 Lining 1.10, DH: 75million/96% mobility after wash
Jan 20 CD 16 iui#2, Follicle at 1.80, DH: 45 million/96% motility after wash
iui #2 (Medicated)
March 12 CD1
March 13 CD2, Started menopur 75 iu