Do you believe in God?
Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:09 PM
This thread reminds me of a course I took in university, at the start of the class the prof wrote on the board at the front of the room "did god create man or did man create god?". Great thought prevoking thread conky!
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 10:59 PM
ttc from Sept 06
Six clomid cycles including
two IUIs led to one pregnancy
that ended in m/c
IVF #1 in Jan/Feb 09 BFN
FET May 7, 09 BFP!!!
First u/s June 9 at 7w1d: a healthy singleton with a hb of 137bpm
August 20 (four months pg): It's a boy!
DS born February 4, 2010
Posted 18 September 2011 - 01:46 PM
I'm not talking about the people who believe in the Church's version of God--giver of gifts, punisher of wrong doings, father to Jesus, son of the Virgin Mary. Although I cannot relate to this belief system at all, I admire how some can have such strong faith.
I'm talking about the others who believe there is an energy, a universal consciousness that runs thru all living things that we are a part of. Maybe when we die our energy rejoins that consiousness and when the time is right we return to be born again to a chosen couple/woman, to work through our unfinished business. Maybe we just die and return our energy to the group, and nothing more comes of it. Maybe there will be an amazing afterlife- where we have no bodies or belongings- but we are just this vibrating mass of light and color and energy and joy and we experience things that you and I couldn't even comprehend. I think God can be whatever you want God to be. To some, God can be found everywhere, others search and search but do not find God. I believe God is always there, it's just much harder to believe in beauty and wonder when something you love so dearly has been taken away, or when you feel the hopelessness of infertility. I have a difficult time with the actual word God, but that is my personal hang-up.(Higher Power/Great Creator/Universal Mother- are easier for me to swallow.)
The greatest challenge for me moving forward will be deciding how to introduce this incredibly personal, sensitive and complex subject to my children. Do I infuence them with my beliefs? Do I ignore the subject and hope they don't ask too much about it? Do I try and expose them to all religions in earnest? How do I explain Christmas? (I LOVE CHRISTMAS) Do I tell them we are celebrating the birth of the baby Jesus, who some believe is the son of God? or Jesus, the ordinary man (but a great man)who walked the earth thousands of years ago? or Jesus- the fictional Character? I really have no idea how I'm gonna handle any of of that....
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TTC since July 2008
July 2008 ectopic/surgery
Dec 2008 miscarriage
then BFN for 9 months....
2 medicated IUI -both BFN
IVF # 1 (flare protocol)
Cancelled (poor response)
IVF # 1 (2nd attempt)-microdose flare/estrogen priming
Fraternal girls born Dec 2010
M/C at 8.5 wks
NT- all looks good
Baby girl born Aug 2013
Posted 19 September 2011 - 09:55 PM
But since going through what I have gone through, witnessing the miracle of creating another human being...seeing their heart beat, their movements..everything...I definitely can say I do believe in God.
IF, for me, brings together science and religion is such a profound way. I was raised catholic, and have to admit I do not follow much of what my church would like me to. I have faith in my own life, in my home and in my prayers. I do not need to conform to a church or religious community to feel more catholic.
I prayer more these days than I ever have before. It`s the way that I speak to my daughter...it has nothing to do with God or anything else. It`s just the place I feel the safest to be able to say a few words to her.
This is just my belief, I think everyone has their own thing that they do believe in. It doesn`t have to be a religious belief at all. Faith is a very powerful thing to have, and it is something that comes from within you.
Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:03 PM
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married for 15 years
TTC for 14
several failed IUI's
2 ectopic = one tube gone and one is blocked
IVF#1 ( part 1 )
cancelled on 4th sep. 2011 due to poor response
IVF#1 ( part 2 )
cancelled on 28th sep. 2011 due to poor response
IVF#1 ( part 3 )
followup with RE on 20th oct. 2011 .... waiting
Posted 25 July 2014 - 05:12 PM
Very interesting topic and it is a topic that I have consistently been overwhelmed with since my struggles in trying to conceive. I like to think of myself as very spiritual and somewhat religious. I was brought in a Catholic family, however I did not fully follow the Catholic religion. Throughout this journey I solidified my relationship with God, I prayed and I spoke to him quite frequently. I realized though that when things went bad, I blamed God and asked him why this would happen. Just recently, after my negative beta, my mother in law made a comment to me that really hit me hard. When I told her my beta was negative, she calmly replied, "oh my God, Jesus really doesn't want to give you a baby". I was mortified and bit back by saying, "what did I do to Jesus that he would not want me to have a child"? I realized that no one is to blame for my situation. This is my life path and obviously there is a reason that I must go through this. I believe that life teaches us lessons and hopefully we learn from them. I am very spiritual, I interpret signs when given to me by my spirit guides (yes, I have read all Sylvia Browne books} and I do believe in God. As I write this, in the back of my mind I still quietly question what path I am supposed to take now that I finally faxed my withdrawal documents to terminate my involved with the U. S. FERTILITY CLINIC. Do I think God put me on this path, yes I do. But I also believe that we are responsible for our outcome.
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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:50 PM
I was surfing the internet yesterday and I came across this - it touched my heart knowing my m/c baby is alright.....
Question: "What does the Bible say about miscarriage?"
Answer:Probably the most common question people ask after a miscarriage is “Why did this happen?” or “Why did God do this to me?” There are no easy answers to these questions. Indeed, there is no satisfying conclusion that we will ever come to as to why bad things happen to people, especially innocent children. We must understand that God does not take away our loved ones from us as some sort of cruel punishment. The Bible tells us that there is “no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1).
Miscarriages are usually caused by abnormal chromosome patterns in the fetus. When these abnormalities are detected, the growth is halted, and miscarriage is the result. In other instances, miscarriages are caused by uterine malformations, hormonal abnormalities, problems with the immune system, chronic infections, and illnesses. After thousands of years of sin, death and personal destruction, it should not surprise us that genetic disorders would eventually become commonplace.
The Bible does not comment specifically about spontaneous miscarriages. We can be sure, though, that God has compassion on those who have suffered through them. He cries and suffers with us, simply because He loves us and feels our pain. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, promised to send His Spirit to all believers so that we will never have to go through trials alone (John 14:16). Jesus said inMatthew 28:20, “And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
Any believer who has suffered a miscarriage should have faith in the glorious hope of one day seeing her child again. An unborn child is not only a fetus or a “piece of tissue” to God, but is one of His children.Jeremiah 1:5says that God knows us while we are still in the womb.Lamentations 3:33tells us that God “does not enjoy hurting people or causing them sorrow.” Jesus promised to leave us with a gift of peace unlike any that the world can give (John 14:27).
Romans 11:36reminds us that everything exists by God's power and is intended for His glory. Although He does not inflict suffering on us for punishment, He will allow things to come into our lives that we can use to bring glory to Him. Jesus said, “I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).
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Posted 14 June 2015 - 01:22 AM
My dh and I have been married for almost 19 years. All of our married life has been ttc. When I got pg on our own back in 2003, I was so shocked and over the moon. After I lost that pregnancy I had someone tell me that I probably lost my baby because I was such a horrible child and this was "God's way of getting me back" yes I believed in that for a long, long time. Again, I someonewhat felt similar to this during my cycle in 2007 too!. Before we did our ivf in 2007, I had a friend pretty much tell me that thngs happen for a reason. She said that exact phrase to me when I was in the hospital after we found out about our loss in 2003. I thought she was crazy and almost asked her to leave. Since that day, I do really feel that things happen for a reason and God does have a hand in things. Not all but most.
Posted 14 June 2015 - 07:06 AM
I believe God is involved as a source of strength and an example of grace, not as a punisher for being a bad child. If infertility was God's punishment for being bad kids, the human race would have died out long ago. God is involved in placing "angels" - like the supportive members on this site - in our paths to help hold us up and guide us through the difficult parts, but God isn't Santa. God loves all and hurts for us when things don't go how we hope.
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Charity gives a meal; justice provides a place at the table.
Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:24 PM
Its really hard to hear children are a blessing from God, when you are struggling with infertility, or have lost a baby or child no matter how young or old. Yet I still believe they are a blessing. I do not believe my or our current infertility is God punishing us.
MONDAY we found out for sure, that our two embryos did not result in a pregnancy. Hcg was 1.1 at 11dp5dt, with bleeding while still on meds. I don't know why God, didn't let them continue growing in me or what happened but I have to believe it happened for a reason. That there is a plan in all this sorrow and their short embryonic life had a purpose.
We will heal and continue on our journey to creating and finding our baby. Waiting is hard. Bfn after ivf is heartbreaking. It is better to have loved and lost than too have never loved at all. God is love. He does not want us to suffer.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:29 AM
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Meds estradiol and progesterone
Transferred two February 25th
First beta: 61 BFP!!!
Second beta: 145
Third beta: 305
Ultrasound: 7we3d March 29th twins!
2nd ultrasound: 9w3d April 12
3rd ultrasound: 11w3d April 26
4th ultrasound: 16w3d May 31
1st OB appointment: May 2
Posted 13 March 2016 - 01:10 PM
I have had my share of doubts in my life, none more than when horrible things were happening to me in my childhood. I have come a long way since then & I am grateful I experienced that when I did, because I truly do not know how I would survive this IF journey without my faith/love in God.
Just a note:
I never mean to offend anyone or push my beliefs on them when I say I will pray for them; that is just my way of saying "you are in my thoughts & I am hoping the best for you."
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TOGETHER 20 YEARS, MARRIED 11
TTC for 10 years
Surgery in Feb 2015 to remove large fibroid, polyps, & cysts
1st IVF ER in Sept 2015- 10 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized w/ ICSI, 2 blastosysts initially frozen,one embryo did not survive thaw for PGS testing ( very poor grade)
2nd IVF ER in Nov 2015- 22 eggs, 13 mature, 9 fertilized w/ICSI, 5 blastocysts, 6 total sent out for PGS, 1 missing a chromosome, 2 monosomies & 3 passed test with good grades
1st FET - January 17th 2016, BFN 1-31-16, looks like it may have been a chemical
3/8/16 - SHG all clear
2nd FET - 3/28/16...officially PUPO!
4/5/16 - BFP on HPT
4/7/16 - no longer just PUPO, Beta = 314
4/11/16 - 2nd beta = 3225!!
4/20/16 - 6 weeks, 1st u/s. 4mm, measuring 6w1d, heartbeat = 112bpm!
5/4/16 - 8 weeks, 2nd u/s. 16mm,measuring 8w1d, heartbeat = 175bpm
5/18/16 - 10 weeks, 3rd u/s. 1 1/2 inches, measuring 10w5d (big baby), 180bpm