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Poll: No nausea/vomiting and miscarriage? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

did you experience no nasuea/vomiting and also miscarry?

  1. experienced nausea/vomit and miscarried (11 votes [28.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.95%

  2. no nausea/vomit and miscarried (19 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. no nausea/vomit and delivered healthy baby (8 votes [21.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

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#1 tmariederm

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 01:50 AM

So for some of you that know I was doing my recertification exam for my Physician Assistant license. thankfully done and awaiting my test results. I had a test question about Hyperemesis Gravadium, severe nausea/vomiting in pregnancy, which is believed to be a result of HCG surges and I read a study showed a relationship to Nausea/vomiting and less risk of miscarriage. My miscarriage in May at 9weeks had no nausea/vomiting so I fit the example although when I had my daughter at 19 (if that even counts...lol) I also experienced no nausea/vomiting. So I wondered how correlated it was? Where do you fit in?
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#2 hopeful123

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 05:30 PM

never experienced that personally but every one i know who had it had healthy babies
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#3 nervus optmist

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 09:21 PM

both my losses were too early to really qualify as having nausea; I thought I felt it, but probably psychosomatic because I also felt nauseous with my BFN. hope you get the answers you're looking for.
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#4 SunnyS

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:00 PM

My loss was without nausea. I am a former doula, and I had 2 clients with severe hyperemisis. Both went on to deliever very healthy babies.

Given my personal experience, and discussions with friends, I don't know anyone who has had moderate to severe morning sickness, and then has gone on to have a miscarriage.

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#5 Stacy

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:50 PM

HI,
To elaborate a little further on my vote...

My first twin pregnancy I didn't have any morning sickness and miscarried one twin but managed to hang on to my daughter.

The second twin pregnancy I had severe morning sickness and lost both at the same time.

The third twin pregnancy I didn't ahe any morning sickness and lost one at a time a few weeks apart.

No trend here :( Hopefully this time I will be as sick as a dog (or not) and carry to term.

Cheers,
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#6 sharlene

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 01:31 PM

My understanding is that it isn't the HCG so much as the progesterone (fondly known as progesterone poisoning) - but I never had any nausea with my miscarriage or my current pregnancy (25 weeks now with one healthy baby) - did you have your 9 week miscarriage fetus chromosomes analyzed? I had a chromosome analysis done on my miscarriage and it was not chromosomally viable, it would never have been a live birth, nothing with those trisomies has ever been born. But I felt the same way at that stage as I did in this pregnancy - my body doesn't seem to react to progesterone (or hcg?) in that way - I get the sore breasts and exhaustion, but luckily, no nausea. Good luck with your test results!

#7 tmariederm

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:17 PM

Interesting results ladies, that honestly will help me feel better this cycle if I get a BFP and am not nauseous. Was worried after reading that study that I would be a wreck thinking I'd miscarry again. Who am I kidding I'll probably be a wreck anyway right??
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#8 Nekodog

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 12:42 AM

I was very sick for the first 17-18 weeks and had no threat whatsoever of miscarriage. Although miserable with nausea and vomiting for that time, I can honestly say that I was never really scared I was going to miscarry. One nice perk to feeling sick all the time?

#9 DiXie

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:46 AM

No nausea and a misscarriage at 10 weeks...hope that helps in your survey.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 06:34 PM

No morning sickness with any of my pregnancies, I had 2 healthy babies and 1 miscarriage.
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#11 headabovewater

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:58 AM

This topic is VERY interesting to me right now. With my first pregnancy, I had hyperemesis from right before a positive pregnancy test until a couple of hours after I delivered at 38 weeks.

Right now, I am 7w2d pregnant. It's still about 50/50 as to whether we'll make it (low betas, baby measuring small, etc.) This time I have had morning sickness (mild) since about 5 weeks. At about 6 weeks, it ramped up significantly and in the past 3 days it's been awful. I can't believe I may have to take Zofran for a potentially nonviable pregnancy. So frustrating! Next ultrasound is tomorrow.

#12 lynter

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:25 AM

I had moderate m/s (nausea, all night every night, but no vomiting thanks to diclectin) and I m/c'd around 8 weeks. Had the m/s from week 5, and it lasted until a few days after I started spotting. Just unlucky, I guess.

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#13 Hoping4_1

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:46 AM

For me the sickness has lasted for 9 weeks and I have been taking Zofran for the last 5 weeks. I lost ALOT of weight. My last pregnancy was the same, although not as bad (didn't have to take Zofran). I never had a m/c.
As for my mom...her first two pregnancies she didn't have any symptoms, her last pregnancy she was sick before she knew she was preggers until she delivered. So, who knows!?

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#14 _journey

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:31 PM

This is an interesting topic - I was really nervous about not having any nausea with my last pregnancy. I had a lot of dizziness until 12w, but I wasn't really nauseous. I went on to deliver three healthy (albeit small) babies at 31w5d. With my previous three losses, I didn't have any morning sickness either. They were all first trimester losses.

My mother and sister never experienced any morning sickness, and between them delivered four healthy babies at, or close to, term. From what I've read (on Dr. Internet FWIW), presence or absence of morning sickness may be more genetic than indicative of m/c.

#15 kacik

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 06:35 AM

Out of my 8 miscarriages, I had morning sickness really bad with one and with the others I had it a little bit. Sorry this probably doesn't really help you much. Good luck!
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#16 headabovewater

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:55 PM

I agree that there's most likely a genetic component - my Mom was sick the whole time with my sister and until 20 weeks with me (and then "not great" after 20 weeks but better.) My sister was sick with her pregnancy until about 16 weeks and then still mildly nauseous the rest of the pregnancy.

Just an update for me, I did end up taking Zofran for the last week of this pregnancy which ended with no h/b. I just had a d&c today and am already feeling less nauseous. Very sad, but less nauseous.

#17 tmariederm

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:51 PM

Just an update for me, I did end up taking Zofran for the last week of this pregnancy which ended with no h/b. I just had a d&c today and am already feeling less nauseous. Very sad, but less nauseous.

Miscarriages Suck and I know all of us would gladly trade for some serious morning sickness! (Hugs) to you.
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#18 stellabelle

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

I think it really depends on the person and how the HSG affects you. My friend had twins and had ZERO morning sickness. I've had one full term birth, one miscarriage at 11 weeks and another baby that I lost at 17 weeks and had morning sickness with all three. All three of them started around 6-7 weeks and ended around 10-12 weeks.

I think the co-relation is that if you are having morning sickness it is seen as a good sign because it means that the HSG in your body is increasing...... but if you don't have morning sickness it doesn't mean that you are going to miscarry it might mean that your body is not as sensitive to it or it's too early.
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#19 #3@44

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:29 PM

I am a perinatal epidemiologist and I have collected several reviews on this well-documented subject.  If you PM me your email address, I would be happy to send them to you - they are too big to send on IVF.CA email.

 

Of note, the difference in survival in NVP vs.non-NVP become more apparent as you age and with vomiting (not just nausea).

 

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 11:39 AM

I had moderate Nausea with all three of my losses this last year and a half.  


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