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#26 lovelyme

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:54 AM

I went to Zlin, Czech Republic for donor egg ivf in April of 2008. I was successful first try.

Generally. I am opposed to Canada's position on donor egg compensation. Putting women in the position of looking for donors on Craiglist is completely absurd. Seems to me that the best way to do it would be to have legislated caps on the amount of compensation payable and also to have the option of open or anonymous egg donation, depending on the wishes of the donor. Instead we have this ridiculous system where the doctors have to tell women that they have to find a donor on the sly and then the doctors are often in the position of having to turn a blind eye to the fact that compensation is probably going on (and it usually is). Otherwise, you have to go out of the country like I did. The clinics I looked at in the USA wanted $30-$40 thousand bucks per try, which was out of the question for me. This is an issue that Canadian women should be writing to their MP's about.

I was diagnosed with POF at age 34. I went to Zlin, Czech Republic for donor egg IVF at age 36. It was my very first fertility treatment of any kind, I was successful and now have a baby daughter 13 months old who is just perfect in every way. I also have 4 frozen embryos in CZ, which I hope to go back for next year.

The law in Czech Republic is that ALL donors are anonymous. You know stats about the donor such as eye colour, hair colour, education level, age, blood type, height, weight and thats about all. Oh, you also can find out if the donor has donated in the past with a resulting pregnancy or not. You can send in your own photo for the doctor to try and choose someone who looks like you, if you want to. You can also indicate certain preferences in your donor. The doctor chooses the donor for you. You will never meet the donor, nor will you ever see her photo. She is not told if her donation results in a pregnancy or not, but she IS told how many eggs she produced from her cycle. If its important for you to meet the donor or see her photo, then you do not want to go to the Czech Republic.

The clinic is very clean, professional and technologically advanced. Czech Republic is NOT a backward country. Most staff at the clinic speak English and there is not a communication problem. (Im specifically referring to the Zlin Clinic of Reproductive medicine: http://www.crmzlin.c...roductory-page/ I cant speak for other clinics, although I know there are some in Prague and Brno as well). You need to spend about 7-10 days in the country for the procedure. While you wait for the fertilization to happen, you can travel around in between appointments and visit nearby cities like Prague or Vienna. I made a 3 week trip out of it and visited about 7 different countries. Zlin itself is not really that interesting of a city though.

I used IVF Vacations: www.ivfvacation.com, but you dont really need a third party to arrange your trip if you are remotely travel savvy (ie if you are not afraid to use trains in europe, not afraid of other cultures, slightly different foods etc). IVF Vacation helps you with airport pick ups, translators, and communications with the clinic before you go. But frankly the Zlin clinic is now "on" to the fact that they make a good business to North American clients, and they can arrange all of these things for you as part of your basic fee. The clinic will even arrange your hotels and so on for you. If you are really leery about the whole process, then using a third party like ivfvacation might be a good idea for you, as they can 'hold your hand' through it all.

The total cost for us, including hotel, flight, meals and donor egg procedure was probably no more than $12,000 and that includes a great 3 week vacation traveling around Europe in a rental car. Obviously, I recommend this clinic, especially to Canadians. I dont mind answering any more questions about this.

There is an active chat forum at www.ivfconnections.com>ivf by location> eastern europe, that has dozens of women chatting about their experiences with IVF vacations and the Zlin clinic, in case you want to check it out.

If anyone wants to PM me with questions, I dont mind answering questions.


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#27 mollygirl21

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 11:19 AM

Lovelyme - thank you so much for sharing your story. Congratulations on your daughter :) You can be sure you'll be hearing from me as we get closer to taking that step.

Stacey - thank you so much for posting those details!

Morningsun - it doesn't seem like donor sperm adds much to the cost. Let us know what your doctor recommends for you guys.

Karolyn - when's the last time you were home to CZ? Is CZ the proper abbreviation for Czech Republic? Do you still have family there?

Lisa - welcome aboard :)

Kat - nice to have you checking in on us but I really hope you never have to consider this option because this FET is it for you!!

Wow, I'm so happy to see so many people interested in this option. I can't wait to hear some more success stories.

MG
After 3+ years, my cycle history is quite long. For details on each cycle, please visit my "About Me" page

Trying since fall 2007
All tests show normal (we're "unexplained")

COH+IUI in Nov 08 = BFN
IVF # 1 Feb 09 - BFN
IVF #2 June 2009 - BFP
13 week u/s showed a missed m/c. Baby stopped developing around 8 weeks. Damn.

Moving on to adoption :)
March 22, 2010 - finished PRIDE classes
waiting to begin homestudy sometime in the next two years. That's not a typo - TWO YEARS
Feb 2012 - got a call that they are ready to start our home study...putting off all adoption decisions for at least 6 months because I am 2 weeks from my due date (see below)

Feb 2011 - we've been offered donor embryos! FET in a few months after preliminary tests are done...
FET June 2011:
May 7 - start suprefact and low dose aspirin (on CD21)
May 14 - AF started - super heavy and I'm super cranky. Headaches from the suprefact too
May 21 - starting Estrace and both of us start antibiotics
June 3 - u/s to check lining
June 8 - FET
June 21 - Beta is 564. June 24 Beta is 2286
July 12 - first u/s at 7w1d
Aug 18 - second u/s at 12w4d - everything looks great
Aug 30 - first prenatal appt
Oct 6 - 20w anatomy scan, could find out the sex!
It's a BOY!!
EDD is Feb 26, 2012
beautiful healthy baby boy born March 1, 2012 <3

My friend ButterflyKiss provided this quote from Laura Bush's book and I think it captures how many of us feel:"The English language lacks the words to mourn an absence... for someone who was never there at all, we are wordless to capture that particular emptiness. For those who deeply want children and are denied them, those missing babies hover like silent, ephemeral shadows over their lives. Who can describe the feel of a tiny hand that is never held?"

#28 lovelyme

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 11:24 AM

A few more comments about some of the questions on this thread . . .

Visas: Most of Europe is now part of the EU and there are no longer "borders" between countries: they are all part of the same EU. So, no need for Visas at all. Canadians do not need visas to go to the EU. We were surprised that there was no customs/border crossings at all in Europe anymore, you just drive right across a border from one country into another - no stopping AT ALL between countries in europe. Also, most of Europe is now on the Euro currency, so no need to constantly change currencies. Czech Republic is part of the EU and is now, on the Euro too.

Our flight cost about $950 per ticket from Vancouver. You can fly to Vienna or Budapest as well, they are all about the same distance from Zlin - 2-3 hour drive.

I believe that you can get into the clinic in as little as 3 months. They have a long list of available donors. Zlin is a university town (in fact, the clinic is directly next door to the university there) so lots of students sign up to be a donor.

Meds: the clinic can send your prescription to www.ivfmeds.com who sends you the meds in the mail (its cheaper to buy on this website than in Canada). However, in my case, I had my gynecologist write the script for the meds since my drug plan covered these meds - IF the script was written by a doctor in Canada. I was asked to take the Lupron shot, which - because it can be used for other things besides ivf - was covered under my drug plan through work. The estrogen pills were covered as well. In fact, ALL of my ivf meds were covered by my drug plan. The clinic can sell you meds over the counter as well, and if you do not have a drug plan, the post-ivf meds should be bought at the clinic as its much cheaper to buy them there than in Canada. Some Canadian doctors do not want to "work with you" when you tell them you are going to CZ for ivf. My doctor was very supportive and helpful, but I've heard of others that won't follow you if you get IVF abroad. I say that if your doctor wont help you, then get another one. Of course, once you are pregnant, you basically should get treated like any other pregnant person, although I took estrogen pills for 3 months after transfer as instructed by the Zlin clinic doctors.

Also, dont forget that IVF is a TAX DEDUCTIBLE medical expense in Canada so you can write off the entire trip come tax time, despite not having gotten the treatment in Canada. That said, I've been audited and my accountant thinks CRA might disallow the flights since we did some vacationing too and the whole trip was not just for medical reasons. So I guess if you go ONLY for the purposes of ivf and come straight home, then I guess the flight should be fully deductible too. I havent heard the results of the audit yet. If they only allow half of the expenses, thats fine with me. Better than none.

rachel

#29 LisainSK

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 11:31 AM

Thanks Rachel...no need to respond to my message. Really appreciate the info with regard to overseas treatment being tax deductible and the Visas's thing. Seriously, seriously contemplating this.

Also, thanks for the heads up about the docs not wanting to work with you. I am quite certain my IVF clinic will respect whatever we decide to do but my local GYN...yeah right! But I'm up for the fight.

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Me (33) and DH (35)....married 10 years (small town sweethearts)

December 2006: TTC # 1
May 2007: DH S/A...normal.
September 2007: BFP au naturelle...holy smokes!
November 2007: M/C # 1 @ 12 wk. DNC reveals a Partial Molar Pregnancy.
January 2009: Referral to local OB/GYN
April 2009: Dx Unexplained. Referral to Calgary RFP.
May 2009: Clomid Cycle # 1...BFN
June 2009: IUI # 1 w/ Clomid # 2 and HCG...BFN
July 2009: Clomid Cycle # 3...BFP! Happy but terrified of another m/c.
September 2009: Worst fears confirmed...M/C # 2 @ 8 weeks
October 2009: IVF Orientation at Calgary RFP and on wait list.
January 2010: Dx (Me) Abnormal Karyotype (Pericentric Inversion Chromosome 16)
March 2010: RFP Referral/Consultation with Reprogenetics in New Jersey
March/April 2010: PGD/IVF success odds very low...20% estimated "normal embryos" per cycle and a 41% pg rate
May 2010: Consult with Dr. Schoolcraft of Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine
June 2010: One Day Work Up @ CCRM (Denver, CO)
June 2010: Predicted Low Responder (Low AFC and AMH). Inversion in difficult spot...We're doing Donor Eggs!!
July 2010: Discovery that I am also a carrier of Fragile X...my eggs didn't have a chance.
July 2010: Annonymous Egg Donor chosen through CCRM
August 2010: Mock FET Cycle completed.
DE IVF # 1
September 2010: Donor Eggs retrieved. Blastocysts to undergo PCR genetic screeing.
October 21, 2010: U/S showing 9.9 mm lining with triple stripe; E2 = 1600 and 1397 US units
November 1st, 2010: FET # 1 (Elective Single Embryo Transfer - eSET)
November 10th, 2010: Beta HCG # 1 = 82, P4 = 23.1 US units
November 12th, 2010: Beta HCG # 2 = 186! BFP!!
November 17th, 2010: Beta HCG # 3 = 1461
November 19th, 2010: Beta HCG # 4 = 3740
November 26th, 2010 U/S: hb = 120 bpm, measuring 6w1d, actual gestation is 6w2d since transfer, CRL = 3.8 mm
Dec. 10th, 2010 U/S: hb = 180 bpm, measuring 8w2d - exactly 8w2d since FET, CRL = 1.8 cm
February 18, 2011: Anatomy scan
EDD = July 20th, 2011

June 28th, 2011 @ 3:19 AM MTN: Levi Darrell John born at 36w6d at 6lbs 14oz and 18" long. He is precious beyond measure.

Visit my blog at:

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February 2012: Bye Bye IVF.ca community...you are the reason I got to where I am today. I am forever reached via pm as my email alerts me. Take care all...wishing you all peace in your hearts soon.

#30 morningsun2

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:09 PM

Thanks so much for posting all this information. It's great to hear first hand accounts from people who've been through it, especially those who had a BFP!!! Congrats!

As for me, I got a call this morning that 2 eggs started fragmenting - apparently there was delayed fertilization for those 2. Not sure of the quality, but I have a tentative transfer schededuled for tomorrow, and the dr. will be telling me the results of the experimentating they did. Fingers crossed!

Whatever happens, I feel so relieved that a donor cycle can be done soon and within what's left of my line of credit! lol
MFI & Endo - TTC since 2006

1st IVF ICSI Sept/08
Lupron 0.05cc, Puregon 200 IU's, Menopur 75 IU's/doubled for last few days
Retrieval - 4 eggs, 2 mature (didn't fertilize) 2 immature - incubated and fertilized
2 fertilized eggs (poor quality) put back Sept 29/08 - BFN

Jan. 22/09 Laparoscopy removal of endometriomas from ovaries

2nd IVF - Start bcp Apr. 16/09
Start Lupron 0.1cc May 5 - not suppressing, eventually go to short protocol
July/09 - try again with short protocol
6 eggs, 4 mature, 2 fertilized, 1 great egg ready to transfer
Transfer postponed due to liquid in uterus.

FET Augut/09
1 perfect egg survived thaw and was transferred, but BFN

Needed break from IVF. Did weight loss program and lost 30 pounds, eating healthfully, and eating for endo (very little beef/dairy)

Feb. 8/10 - Start Puregon 250 IU's, Menopur 150 IU's on Feb. 8/10
Saw 5 follies on left ovary (and 5 cysts, yikes!) and 3 on right ovary, along with the monster endometrioma
Day 6 - 10 follies between 0.8 & 1.3 (4 on left ovary 1x0.8 and 3x0.9, 6 on right ovary along with endometrioma, 1x0.9, 2x1.1, 3x1.3)
Day 9 - endometrioma is on LEFT ovary!?!?! WHAT?!?! Follies on left not growing, which is okay now. Right side 1x1.1, 4x1.6-1.9, 1x2.1 Stop Menopure!!!
Feb 19/10 - 6 eggs retrieved
Feb 20 - 5 mature, but none fertilized. Time to experiment and see where the issue lies. 1 immature brought along and fertilized with donor sperm. 2 donor eggs (research purposes only) fertilized with dh's sperm to see what happens.
Feb 21 - The Dr. called to say 2 eggs had delayed fertilization and have now started dividing. Potential transfer tomorrow! Wow, so surprised!
Feb. 22 - Transfer cancelled, eggs stopped dividing. Testing proved egg quality issue, can still use dh's sperm! yay!
Onto our new path - donor eggs!

Found an angel to share a cycle. Can't believe it and feel like the luckiest girl on earth!

August 20, 2010 our angel started lupron, Aug 30 started stims
September 10, 2010 Retrieval - 31 eggs (unbelievable!) 10/14 good quality for our angel and 4/15 good quality for us
September 13 - Transfer - 2 each. Our angel has 8 on ice and we have 2 on ice! Never had that before, in fact I've never had 2 good quality eggs to transfer! Amazing.
September 20 - POAS - BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for BOTH of us!
Sept 27 - beta 686 Sept 29 - beta 1941
Oct. 8 - first ultrasound - 1 perfect little baby for me!


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#31 kerrilyn

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:36 AM

I am lurking and reading and finding it all very intersesting. Will be a conversation dh and I will be having for sure!

XO KL
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#32 sketches

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 02:54 PM

My DH and I will be heading to Fertility Argentina in Buenos Aires in 5 weeks for our donor eggs cycle (providing all my tests go as expected) ... that's another option, and was actually provided to me by my doctor at Hannam Fertility after our 4th IVF failed. The other option was Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine, but that cost was upwards of $40,000, versus $5,200 in Argentina.
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The Facts: TTC 5 years, 3 IUIs, 4 IVFs, 1 FET, 2 DE cycles in Argentina ... and success on the final try. Gideon and Grant were born on November 10, 2011.

#33 mollygirl21

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 03:04 PM

Hi Kerrilyn :)

Sketches - good luck with your DE cycle! Did you consider the CZ option? How did you decide on the Argentina program? You mentioned the cost was $5,200 - is that Cdn for the treatment and meds? That's about the same as the CZ clinic. Did Dr. Hannam mention why he recommends that clinic over other foreign countries?

Sorry for all the questions!

Karolyn - I didn't realize you had decided to be a SAHM, lucky you :) What a great option to have.

Lovelyme - again, thank you so much for the info and the reminder about medical expenses and income taxes. I really really hope everyone on this site knows they can claim their medical expenses for IVF, domestic or foreign! It's going to give me about $5000 back in taxes this year :)

MG
After 3+ years, my cycle history is quite long. For details on each cycle, please visit my "About Me" page

Trying since fall 2007
All tests show normal (we're "unexplained")

COH+IUI in Nov 08 = BFN
IVF # 1 Feb 09 - BFN
IVF #2 June 2009 - BFP
13 week u/s showed a missed m/c. Baby stopped developing around 8 weeks. Damn.

Moving on to adoption :)
March 22, 2010 - finished PRIDE classes
waiting to begin homestudy sometime in the next two years. That's not a typo - TWO YEARS
Feb 2012 - got a call that they are ready to start our home study...putting off all adoption decisions for at least 6 months because I am 2 weeks from my due date (see below)

Feb 2011 - we've been offered donor embryos! FET in a few months after preliminary tests are done...
FET June 2011:
May 7 - start suprefact and low dose aspirin (on CD21)
May 14 - AF started - super heavy and I'm super cranky. Headaches from the suprefact too
May 21 - starting Estrace and both of us start antibiotics
June 3 - u/s to check lining
June 8 - FET
June 21 - Beta is 564. June 24 Beta is 2286
July 12 - first u/s at 7w1d
Aug 18 - second u/s at 12w4d - everything looks great
Aug 30 - first prenatal appt
Oct 6 - 20w anatomy scan, could find out the sex!
It's a BOY!!
EDD is Feb 26, 2012
beautiful healthy baby boy born March 1, 2012 <3

My friend ButterflyKiss provided this quote from Laura Bush's book and I think it captures how many of us feel:"The English language lacks the words to mourn an absence... for someone who was never there at all, we are wordless to capture that particular emptiness. For those who deeply want children and are denied them, those missing babies hover like silent, ephemeral shadows over their lives. Who can describe the feel of a tiny hand that is never held?"

#34 morningsun2

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 03:07 PM

Hi all.

No transfer today - those 2 eggs that started dividing have stopped. The good news is that the testing shows that it's my eggs that have issues, and dh's sperm was able to successfully fertilize donor eggs! Yay!

But... now onto the donor egg route. The dr. gave me info on the donor program he works through, and I've emailed them to find out the costs involved, but I have a good idea what their costs will add up to. sigh.

I'm so glad to have other options available! I'll have to check into Argentina as well. Thanks for the tip!
MFI & Endo - TTC since 2006

1st IVF ICSI Sept/08
Lupron 0.05cc, Puregon 200 IU's, Menopur 75 IU's/doubled for last few days
Retrieval - 4 eggs, 2 mature (didn't fertilize) 2 immature - incubated and fertilized
2 fertilized eggs (poor quality) put back Sept 29/08 - BFN

Jan. 22/09 Laparoscopy removal of endometriomas from ovaries

2nd IVF - Start bcp Apr. 16/09
Start Lupron 0.1cc May 5 - not suppressing, eventually go to short protocol
July/09 - try again with short protocol
6 eggs, 4 mature, 2 fertilized, 1 great egg ready to transfer
Transfer postponed due to liquid in uterus.

FET Augut/09
1 perfect egg survived thaw and was transferred, but BFN

Needed break from IVF. Did weight loss program and lost 30 pounds, eating healthfully, and eating for endo (very little beef/dairy)

Feb. 8/10 - Start Puregon 250 IU's, Menopur 150 IU's on Feb. 8/10
Saw 5 follies on left ovary (and 5 cysts, yikes!) and 3 on right ovary, along with the monster endometrioma
Day 6 - 10 follies between 0.8 & 1.3 (4 on left ovary 1x0.8 and 3x0.9, 6 on right ovary along with endometrioma, 1x0.9, 2x1.1, 3x1.3)
Day 9 - endometrioma is on LEFT ovary!?!?! WHAT?!?! Follies on left not growing, which is okay now. Right side 1x1.1, 4x1.6-1.9, 1x2.1 Stop Menopure!!!
Feb 19/10 - 6 eggs retrieved
Feb 20 - 5 mature, but none fertilized. Time to experiment and see where the issue lies. 1 immature brought along and fertilized with donor sperm. 2 donor eggs (research purposes only) fertilized with dh's sperm to see what happens.
Feb 21 - The Dr. called to say 2 eggs had delayed fertilization and have now started dividing. Potential transfer tomorrow! Wow, so surprised!
Feb. 22 - Transfer cancelled, eggs stopped dividing. Testing proved egg quality issue, can still use dh's sperm! yay!
Onto our new path - donor eggs!

Found an angel to share a cycle. Can't believe it and feel like the luckiest girl on earth!

August 20, 2010 our angel started lupron, Aug 30 started stims
September 10, 2010 Retrieval - 31 eggs (unbelievable!) 10/14 good quality for our angel and 4/15 good quality for us
September 13 - Transfer - 2 each. Our angel has 8 on ice and we have 2 on ice! Never had that before, in fact I've never had 2 good quality eggs to transfer! Amazing.
September 20 - POAS - BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for BOTH of us!
Sept 27 - beta 686 Sept 29 - beta 1941
Oct. 8 - first ultrasound - 1 perfect little baby for me!


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:45 PM

MG - Yup after we lost Simon I was not in a good place...(as you can imagine loosing 2 children in 1 year)...I started having anxiety attacks and I was freaking out the second I dropped Emilie off at daycare and when she would get sick (even a runny nose) I would freak...so DH calmly suggested that we should do this. It is rather tight $$$ right now and will be but as we say it is only $$$ - right? So for now until she starts school (fall 2011) I will stay home...and we'll see what other curve ball life decides to throw our way... :)

I am loving reading this thread...it is so interesting :)

#36 LisainSK

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:00 PM

Can't believe it but we have requested tentative dates from the Zlin clinic in May, made appointments with our doctors this week - yup I'd say we're ankle deep into this right now!!

Just love that there really is some hope for us. Even if PGD was our answer I really can't stomach the costs and the emotional toll of doing IVF with PGD. I just want a freakin' baby - don't care if it doesn't have my genes!

LisainSK
Me (33) and DH (35)....married 10 years (small town sweethearts)

December 2006: TTC # 1
May 2007: DH S/A...normal.
September 2007: BFP au naturelle...holy smokes!
November 2007: M/C # 1 @ 12 wk. DNC reveals a Partial Molar Pregnancy.
January 2009: Referral to local OB/GYN
April 2009: Dx Unexplained. Referral to Calgary RFP.
May 2009: Clomid Cycle # 1...BFN
June 2009: IUI # 1 w/ Clomid # 2 and HCG...BFN
July 2009: Clomid Cycle # 3...BFP! Happy but terrified of another m/c.
September 2009: Worst fears confirmed...M/C # 2 @ 8 weeks
October 2009: IVF Orientation at Calgary RFP and on wait list.
January 2010: Dx (Me) Abnormal Karyotype (Pericentric Inversion Chromosome 16)
March 2010: RFP Referral/Consultation with Reprogenetics in New Jersey
March/April 2010: PGD/IVF success odds very low...20% estimated "normal embryos" per cycle and a 41% pg rate
May 2010: Consult with Dr. Schoolcraft of Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine
June 2010: One Day Work Up @ CCRM (Denver, CO)
June 2010: Predicted Low Responder (Low AFC and AMH). Inversion in difficult spot...We're doing Donor Eggs!!
July 2010: Discovery that I am also a carrier of Fragile X...my eggs didn't have a chance.
July 2010: Annonymous Egg Donor chosen through CCRM
August 2010: Mock FET Cycle completed.
DE IVF # 1
September 2010: Donor Eggs retrieved. Blastocysts to undergo PCR genetic screeing.
October 21, 2010: U/S showing 9.9 mm lining with triple stripe; E2 = 1600 and 1397 US units
November 1st, 2010: FET # 1 (Elective Single Embryo Transfer - eSET)
November 10th, 2010: Beta HCG # 1 = 82, P4 = 23.1 US units
November 12th, 2010: Beta HCG # 2 = 186! BFP!!
November 17th, 2010: Beta HCG # 3 = 1461
November 19th, 2010: Beta HCG # 4 = 3740
November 26th, 2010 U/S: hb = 120 bpm, measuring 6w1d, actual gestation is 6w2d since transfer, CRL = 3.8 mm
Dec. 10th, 2010 U/S: hb = 180 bpm, measuring 8w2d - exactly 8w2d since FET, CRL = 1.8 cm
February 18, 2011: Anatomy scan
EDD = July 20th, 2011

June 28th, 2011 @ 3:19 AM MTN: Levi Darrell John born at 36w6d at 6lbs 14oz and 18" long. He is precious beyond measure.

Visit my blog at:

http://wantedonegood...o.blogspot.com/

February 2012: Bye Bye IVF.ca community...you are the reason I got to where I am today. I am forever reached via pm as my email alerts me. Take care all...wishing you all peace in your hearts soon.

#37 lovelyme

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:03 PM

Good luck Lisa. When you hold that little baby in your arms after carrying it for 9 long months, you will not care one bit that it does not have your genes. Are you going through the clinic directly or using ivfvacation?

Rachel

#38 mollygirl21

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:24 PM

Ohmygosh Lisa!! You move fast woman :) :) :) That's awesome, I can't wait to hear about every detail (if you care to share, please please share!).
After 3+ years, my cycle history is quite long. For details on each cycle, please visit my "About Me" page

Trying since fall 2007
All tests show normal (we're "unexplained")

COH+IUI in Nov 08 = BFN
IVF # 1 Feb 09 - BFN
IVF #2 June 2009 - BFP
13 week u/s showed a missed m/c. Baby stopped developing around 8 weeks. Damn.

Moving on to adoption :)
March 22, 2010 - finished PRIDE classes
waiting to begin homestudy sometime in the next two years. That's not a typo - TWO YEARS
Feb 2012 - got a call that they are ready to start our home study...putting off all adoption decisions for at least 6 months because I am 2 weeks from my due date (see below)

Feb 2011 - we've been offered donor embryos! FET in a few months after preliminary tests are done...
FET June 2011:
May 7 - start suprefact and low dose aspirin (on CD21)
May 14 - AF started - super heavy and I'm super cranky. Headaches from the suprefact too
May 21 - starting Estrace and both of us start antibiotics
June 3 - u/s to check lining
June 8 - FET
June 21 - Beta is 564. June 24 Beta is 2286
July 12 - first u/s at 7w1d
Aug 18 - second u/s at 12w4d - everything looks great
Aug 30 - first prenatal appt
Oct 6 - 20w anatomy scan, could find out the sex!
It's a BOY!!
EDD is Feb 26, 2012
beautiful healthy baby boy born March 1, 2012 <3

My friend ButterflyKiss provided this quote from Laura Bush's book and I think it captures how many of us feel:"The English language lacks the words to mourn an absence... for someone who was never there at all, we are wordless to capture that particular emptiness. For those who deeply want children and are denied them, those missing babies hover like silent, ephemeral shadows over their lives. Who can describe the feel of a tiny hand that is never held?"

#39 capo

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:53 PM

This thread is so interesting - thanks MG! My DH was really interested in trying ivf abroad, but I was intimidated by the idea. My fear seems foolish now that I'm reading all this!

Good luck girls!!!
Me-35, DH - 41
TTC since 2005 - high FSH/low ovarian reserve and endo
Ectopic pregnancy Dec 2006
3 cycles clomid (Ob Gyn) - BFN
TCART
2 IUIs (Letrosol) - BFN
3 IUIS (Menopur & Letrosol) - 1 chemical pg
OFC
IVF#1/ICSI Feb./Mar. 2009 (Puregon & Repronex) 6 retrieved, 5 fertilized, 2 embies 3dt - BFN
July 20 - Laparoscopy & laser for stage 2 endometriosis, tubes clear
Sept. 2009 - Approved for CAS adoption!!
Create
IVF#2/ICSI Dec. 2009 - natural cycle - BFN
IVF#3 planned for Feb. 2010, but life had better plans:
Jan. 2010 Nicholas is our CAS miracle! Our son is home and we are ecstatic!
April 2010 surprise natural BFP - Allyson was born December 31st 2010!

What a year - we are truly happy and beyond grateful!

#40 LisainSK

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 10:47 PM

Yes, we move fast. We knew we'd love to do egg donation but where and who...so this thread was a GOLD mine for me. Just hope that our local specialist will respect our wishes and cooperate with us. Crossing fingers. we're about 98% certain we're doing this and once we get some logistics finalized I'll definitely share our experiences. Yes, you could look at photos, etc. but a lady from Ontario sent me some photos of potential egg donors and quite frankly it took me for a loop...of course they don't look like me so I'd much prefer things 100% anonymous.

Good luck to all.

Lisa
Me (33) and DH (35)....married 10 years (small town sweethearts)

December 2006: TTC # 1
May 2007: DH S/A...normal.
September 2007: BFP au naturelle...holy smokes!
November 2007: M/C # 1 @ 12 wk. DNC reveals a Partial Molar Pregnancy.
January 2009: Referral to local OB/GYN
April 2009: Dx Unexplained. Referral to Calgary RFP.
May 2009: Clomid Cycle # 1...BFN
June 2009: IUI # 1 w/ Clomid # 2 and HCG...BFN
July 2009: Clomid Cycle # 3...BFP! Happy but terrified of another m/c.
September 2009: Worst fears confirmed...M/C # 2 @ 8 weeks
October 2009: IVF Orientation at Calgary RFP and on wait list.
January 2010: Dx (Me) Abnormal Karyotype (Pericentric Inversion Chromosome 16)
March 2010: RFP Referral/Consultation with Reprogenetics in New Jersey
March/April 2010: PGD/IVF success odds very low...20% estimated "normal embryos" per cycle and a 41% pg rate
May 2010: Consult with Dr. Schoolcraft of Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine
June 2010: One Day Work Up @ CCRM (Denver, CO)
June 2010: Predicted Low Responder (Low AFC and AMH). Inversion in difficult spot...We're doing Donor Eggs!!
July 2010: Discovery that I am also a carrier of Fragile X...my eggs didn't have a chance.
July 2010: Annonymous Egg Donor chosen through CCRM
August 2010: Mock FET Cycle completed.
DE IVF # 1
September 2010: Donor Eggs retrieved. Blastocysts to undergo PCR genetic screeing.
October 21, 2010: U/S showing 9.9 mm lining with triple stripe; E2 = 1600 and 1397 US units
November 1st, 2010: FET # 1 (Elective Single Embryo Transfer - eSET)
November 10th, 2010: Beta HCG # 1 = 82, P4 = 23.1 US units
November 12th, 2010: Beta HCG # 2 = 186! BFP!!
November 17th, 2010: Beta HCG # 3 = 1461
November 19th, 2010: Beta HCG # 4 = 3740
November 26th, 2010 U/S: hb = 120 bpm, measuring 6w1d, actual gestation is 6w2d since transfer, CRL = 3.8 mm
Dec. 10th, 2010 U/S: hb = 180 bpm, measuring 8w2d - exactly 8w2d since FET, CRL = 1.8 cm
February 18, 2011: Anatomy scan
EDD = July 20th, 2011

June 28th, 2011 @ 3:19 AM MTN: Levi Darrell John born at 36w6d at 6lbs 14oz and 18" long. He is precious beyond measure.

Visit my blog at:

http://wantedonegood...o.blogspot.com/

February 2012: Bye Bye IVF.ca community...you are the reason I got to where I am today. I am forever reached via pm as my email alerts me. Take care all...wishing you all peace in your hearts soon.

#41 avanderheide

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:16 PM

Lisa - How exciting for you! You will have to let us all know how it goes. I wish you the best of luck with your journey!
Amanda

Me: 25 DH: 28
TTC since December 2007
Issues: annovulatory, low count and low morphology

Mar '09 - IUI #1 - BFN
Apr '09 - IUI #2 - BFN
May '09 - IUI #3 - BFN
Aug '09 - IVF #1 - BFN - Chemical pregnancy
ER: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized
ET: 8-cell, grade B+ and a 5-cell, grade B
Dec '09 - FET#1 - BFN
ET: 9-cell B+, and a 5-cell B

Miracle Pregnancy!
March 8, 2010 - +HPT (LMP January 28th)
March 10 - Beta: 17,000s
March 22 - U/S: 7w4d - measuring perfectly, FHR 130 bpm
June 17 - 20w U/S: It's a GIRL!!
Makenna Raine born on her due date, November 4th, 9lb 7oz, 51 cm long
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#42 morningsun2

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 09:11 AM

Hi all.

At the Zlin clinic, do you get the entire batch of the donor's eggs or are you sharing? I've noticed a few other clinics mention a minimum guarantee of eggs, and then they mention that the eggs are shared with other women who are doing donor cycles. I didn't see that mentioned for Zlin, so I'm not sure. It would be nice if you got the whole batch and could freeze any eggs for a future FET.

Thanks!
MFI & Endo - TTC since 2006

1st IVF ICSI Sept/08
Lupron 0.05cc, Puregon 200 IU's, Menopur 75 IU's/doubled for last few days
Retrieval - 4 eggs, 2 mature (didn't fertilize) 2 immature - incubated and fertilized
2 fertilized eggs (poor quality) put back Sept 29/08 - BFN

Jan. 22/09 Laparoscopy removal of endometriomas from ovaries

2nd IVF - Start bcp Apr. 16/09
Start Lupron 0.1cc May 5 - not suppressing, eventually go to short protocol
July/09 - try again with short protocol
6 eggs, 4 mature, 2 fertilized, 1 great egg ready to transfer
Transfer postponed due to liquid in uterus.

FET Augut/09
1 perfect egg survived thaw and was transferred, but BFN

Needed break from IVF. Did weight loss program and lost 30 pounds, eating healthfully, and eating for endo (very little beef/dairy)

Feb. 8/10 - Start Puregon 250 IU's, Menopur 150 IU's on Feb. 8/10
Saw 5 follies on left ovary (and 5 cysts, yikes!) and 3 on right ovary, along with the monster endometrioma
Day 6 - 10 follies between 0.8 & 1.3 (4 on left ovary 1x0.8 and 3x0.9, 6 on right ovary along with endometrioma, 1x0.9, 2x1.1, 3x1.3)
Day 9 - endometrioma is on LEFT ovary!?!?! WHAT?!?! Follies on left not growing, which is okay now. Right side 1x1.1, 4x1.6-1.9, 1x2.1 Stop Menopure!!!
Feb 19/10 - 6 eggs retrieved
Feb 20 - 5 mature, but none fertilized. Time to experiment and see where the issue lies. 1 immature brought along and fertilized with donor sperm. 2 donor eggs (research purposes only) fertilized with dh's sperm to see what happens.
Feb 21 - The Dr. called to say 2 eggs had delayed fertilization and have now started dividing. Potential transfer tomorrow! Wow, so surprised!
Feb. 22 - Transfer cancelled, eggs stopped dividing. Testing proved egg quality issue, can still use dh's sperm! yay!
Onto our new path - donor eggs!

Found an angel to share a cycle. Can't believe it and feel like the luckiest girl on earth!

August 20, 2010 our angel started lupron, Aug 30 started stims
September 10, 2010 Retrieval - 31 eggs (unbelievable!) 10/14 good quality for our angel and 4/15 good quality for us
September 13 - Transfer - 2 each. Our angel has 8 on ice and we have 2 on ice! Never had that before, in fact I've never had 2 good quality eggs to transfer! Amazing.
September 20 - POAS - BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for BOTH of us!
Sept 27 - beta 686 Sept 29 - beta 1941
Oct. 8 - first ultrasound - 1 perfect little baby for me!


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#43 staceylee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 09:40 AM

Ok Ladies I thought I would try to include as much information here as possible however if any of you want me to forward you the information from the Zlin I would be happy to just PM your email address and I will send it.

I have previously posted the fee schedule but I thought i would also post their "GUARANTEES"

. Examination and selection of donors according to strict criteria
set by American Association for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM)

. Selection of a suitable anonymous donor in compliance with
recipients request (height, weight, hair/eye color, education, etc.)

. Each recipient can expect 6_8 mature ooces ready for
fertilization from one donor

. Minimum of 2 embryos of a high quality on the day of embryo
transfer ready for transfer (couple can decide how many embryos
are transferred after doctor's recommendation)

o lf the failure is caused by the donor (she doesn't administer her
medication, gets ill, terminates the stimulation), you will be
immediately offered a back up donor, if at all possible, that meets
your requirements and treatment will continue without
interruptions.

o lf donor's eggs don't fertilize by the lCSl method (and sperm is of
good quality), the next treatment will be offered to you free of
charge

o The cost of your medication, used for your uterus lining
preparation, wll not be reimbursed to you, should the treatment
not result in embryo transfer

ME 38 DH 37


TTC 6 Yrs
Diagnosed HIGH FSH Levels (13) Low Follicle Count placed immediately in IVF program

IVF #1 - Jan/Feb 2010 - Flare Protocol - BFN
IVF #2 - Sept/Oct 2010 - Min Stim - BFN
Going into Menopause at 34 no more biological options for me

Moving on to Adoption with Adoption Options
On the wait list - July 22, 2011

Got the Call - January 17, 2013 Baby Girl due February 11, 2013

Finally a mom - Alexis Nicole Born February 21, 2013. She is forever ours

#44 staceylee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 09:40 AM

Ok now for the list of Tests you need to go over there

General information about the recipient
Women 45 years of age and older have to undergo a mammogram and
consult with their general practitioner or OB/GYN of their attempt for
pregnancy

Women 50 years of age and older are advised to have the EKG test and to
have a blood pressure and glucose levels check.
Transvaginal Ultrasound

If the menstrual cycle is regular, thickness of the endometrium should be
measured 13 -14 days into the cycle (13th or 14th day from the start of
bleeding)

If the cycle is not regular, thickness of the endometrium should be measured
after 14 days of using Estrogens (6 mg of Estradiol daily or Estradiol valerate)
taking from first day of bleeding. Women without bleeding (menopausal
women) can start with treatment anytime.

Male Partner
Results of the sperm analysis if partners sperm is used

Both partners
Results of these tests (not older than three months)
HIV 1,2,
Hepatitis B and C
Syphilis

ME 38 DH 37


TTC 6 Yrs
Diagnosed HIGH FSH Levels (13) Low Follicle Count placed immediately in IVF program

IVF #1 - Jan/Feb 2010 - Flare Protocol - BFN
IVF #2 - Sept/Oct 2010 - Min Stim - BFN
Going into Menopause at 34 no more biological options for me

Moving on to Adoption with Adoption Options
On the wait list - July 22, 2011

Got the Call - January 17, 2013 Baby Girl due February 11, 2013

Finally a mom - Alexis Nicole Born February 21, 2013. She is forever ours

#45 staceylee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 09:41 AM

So Morning Sun to answer your question you do get ALL of the donor eggs and yes in most cases you will have embryos to freeze.

ME 38 DH 37


TTC 6 Yrs
Diagnosed HIGH FSH Levels (13) Low Follicle Count placed immediately in IVF program

IVF #1 - Jan/Feb 2010 - Flare Protocol - BFN
IVF #2 - Sept/Oct 2010 - Min Stim - BFN
Going into Menopause at 34 no more biological options for me

Moving on to Adoption with Adoption Options
On the wait list - July 22, 2011

Got the Call - January 17, 2013 Baby Girl due February 11, 2013

Finally a mom - Alexis Nicole Born February 21, 2013. She is forever ours

#46 morningsun2

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:11 PM

Thanks Staceylee!

So how are people approaching these test requirements? I am so nervous to ask my ivf clinic to forward all this info - sperm analysis, HIV, hepatitis tests, etc. Has anyone asked their clinic to forward that info and how did they react?

Thanks!
MFI & Endo - TTC since 2006

1st IVF ICSI Sept/08
Lupron 0.05cc, Puregon 200 IU's, Menopur 75 IU's/doubled for last few days
Retrieval - 4 eggs, 2 mature (didn't fertilize) 2 immature - incubated and fertilized
2 fertilized eggs (poor quality) put back Sept 29/08 - BFN

Jan. 22/09 Laparoscopy removal of endometriomas from ovaries

2nd IVF - Start bcp Apr. 16/09
Start Lupron 0.1cc May 5 - not suppressing, eventually go to short protocol
July/09 - try again with short protocol
6 eggs, 4 mature, 2 fertilized, 1 great egg ready to transfer
Transfer postponed due to liquid in uterus.

FET Augut/09
1 perfect egg survived thaw and was transferred, but BFN

Needed break from IVF. Did weight loss program and lost 30 pounds, eating healthfully, and eating for endo (very little beef/dairy)

Feb. 8/10 - Start Puregon 250 IU's, Menopur 150 IU's on Feb. 8/10
Saw 5 follies on left ovary (and 5 cysts, yikes!) and 3 on right ovary, along with the monster endometrioma
Day 6 - 10 follies between 0.8 & 1.3 (4 on left ovary 1x0.8 and 3x0.9, 6 on right ovary along with endometrioma, 1x0.9, 2x1.1, 3x1.3)
Day 9 - endometrioma is on LEFT ovary!?!?! WHAT?!?! Follies on left not growing, which is okay now. Right side 1x1.1, 4x1.6-1.9, 1x2.1 Stop Menopure!!!
Feb 19/10 - 6 eggs retrieved
Feb 20 - 5 mature, but none fertilized. Time to experiment and see where the issue lies. 1 immature brought along and fertilized with donor sperm. 2 donor eggs (research purposes only) fertilized with dh's sperm to see what happens.
Feb 21 - The Dr. called to say 2 eggs had delayed fertilization and have now started dividing. Potential transfer tomorrow! Wow, so surprised!
Feb. 22 - Transfer cancelled, eggs stopped dividing. Testing proved egg quality issue, can still use dh's sperm! yay!
Onto our new path - donor eggs!

Found an angel to share a cycle. Can't believe it and feel like the luckiest girl on earth!

August 20, 2010 our angel started lupron, Aug 30 started stims
September 10, 2010 Retrieval - 31 eggs (unbelievable!) 10/14 good quality for our angel and 4/15 good quality for us
September 13 - Transfer - 2 each. Our angel has 8 on ice and we have 2 on ice! Never had that before, in fact I've never had 2 good quality eggs to transfer! Amazing.
September 20 - POAS - BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for BOTH of us!
Sept 27 - beta 686 Sept 29 - beta 1941
Oct. 8 - first ultrasound - 1 perfect little baby for me!


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#47 LisainSK

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:32 PM

Morningsun...that's a good question! But I'll let you know after next Monday! But really all we need are DH's sperm analyses tests and STD tests. My specialist has already said she will provide us copies of our lab reports but has requested an appointment (March 1st)...so she knows somethings up. And an STD test...you can walk into any med clinic and request such requisitions.

But our intentions are not to be sneeky around our specialists. We wish to request their cooperation and respect of our decision even if they are against it. And we also request their pre-natal care if treatment is successful. But we plan to come loaded with information...stats, clinic is of high reputation and operates within the EU's highest gynecological and IVF treatment protocols and donors are treated as per American Reproductive Medicine Association's guidelines (ie no donor is stimulated more than 5-6 times for risks for cervical and ovarian cancer are elevated). Plus we truly, truly believe that annonymous donation is best for all parties...donor included. I understand donation is very emotional for the donors also but the clinic states that the donors do not know if their eggs acheived pregnancy just how many eggs and what quality. Plus these are independent, free will women...not exploited. Again, added peace the donors are treated ethically.

Yeah, so much to think about but for the first time in probably a year we are finally at peace with a decision. We always liked the idea just where, how and who? So kudos to EVERYONE that has contributed to this thread.

I should also mention that we are 98% certain we will go this route. We just want to talk to the doctors first, get their opinions and make the final decision. But I don't think they will ever be able to talk us into PGD (issues with mosaicism, ah God add amateur geneticist to my title?!!).

LisainSK
Me (33) and DH (35)....married 10 years (small town sweethearts)

December 2006: TTC # 1
May 2007: DH S/A...normal.
September 2007: BFP au naturelle...holy smokes!
November 2007: M/C # 1 @ 12 wk. DNC reveals a Partial Molar Pregnancy.
January 2009: Referral to local OB/GYN
April 2009: Dx Unexplained. Referral to Calgary RFP.
May 2009: Clomid Cycle # 1...BFN
June 2009: IUI # 1 w/ Clomid # 2 and HCG...BFN
July 2009: Clomid Cycle # 3...BFP! Happy but terrified of another m/c.
September 2009: Worst fears confirmed...M/C # 2 @ 8 weeks
October 2009: IVF Orientation at Calgary RFP and on wait list.
January 2010: Dx (Me) Abnormal Karyotype (Pericentric Inversion Chromosome 16)
March 2010: RFP Referral/Consultation with Reprogenetics in New Jersey
March/April 2010: PGD/IVF success odds very low...20% estimated "normal embryos" per cycle and a 41% pg rate
May 2010: Consult with Dr. Schoolcraft of Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine
June 2010: One Day Work Up @ CCRM (Denver, CO)
June 2010: Predicted Low Responder (Low AFC and AMH). Inversion in difficult spot...We're doing Donor Eggs!!
July 2010: Discovery that I am also a carrier of Fragile X...my eggs didn't have a chance.
July 2010: Annonymous Egg Donor chosen through CCRM
August 2010: Mock FET Cycle completed.
DE IVF # 1
September 2010: Donor Eggs retrieved. Blastocysts to undergo PCR genetic screeing.
October 21, 2010: U/S showing 9.9 mm lining with triple stripe; E2 = 1600 and 1397 US units
November 1st, 2010: FET # 1 (Elective Single Embryo Transfer - eSET)
November 10th, 2010: Beta HCG # 1 = 82, P4 = 23.1 US units
November 12th, 2010: Beta HCG # 2 = 186! BFP!!
November 17th, 2010: Beta HCG # 3 = 1461
November 19th, 2010: Beta HCG # 4 = 3740
November 26th, 2010 U/S: hb = 120 bpm, measuring 6w1d, actual gestation is 6w2d since transfer, CRL = 3.8 mm
Dec. 10th, 2010 U/S: hb = 180 bpm, measuring 8w2d - exactly 8w2d since FET, CRL = 1.8 cm
February 18, 2011: Anatomy scan
EDD = July 20th, 2011

June 28th, 2011 @ 3:19 AM MTN: Levi Darrell John born at 36w6d at 6lbs 14oz and 18" long. He is precious beyond measure.

Visit my blog at:

http://wantedonegood...o.blogspot.com/

February 2012: Bye Bye IVF.ca community...you are the reason I got to where I am today. I am forever reached via pm as my email alerts me. Take care all...wishing you all peace in your hearts soon.

#48 sketches

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:07 PM

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Dr. Hannam's clinic in Toronto recommended we consider a donor egg program in Buenos Aires. Dr. Hannam and his staff were awesome, provided all my test results to our new clinic in Argentina, and also gave me a contact of another woman who had just returned from a procedure there. And our first clinic in Moncton, NB is doing the two preliminary tests I'll need before we travel, so if your doctor really cares about your needs, they should provide the support you need. We travel in early April, provided all my tests go well and the lining/hormones are ready. We are guaranted a minimum number of embryos.

We went with Argentina because the doctor there has worked with Dr. Hannam before. The total cost is around $5,200, but doesn't include the flight and accommodation costs. I'll let y'all know how the experience is; it might give you another option as well as Zlin.
Me-36, DH-47
The Facts: TTC 5 years, 3 IUIs, 4 IVFs, 1 FET, 2 DE cycles in Argentina ... and success on the final try. Gideon and Grant were born on November 10, 2011.

#49 brneyedgirl

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:56 PM

Sketches i'm interested in your experience. It's great that Dr. Hannam was able to help you. Good Luck too you I hope everything goes well.
Brneyedgirl
Married: September 30, 2006
TTCing Since:December 22, 2006
me: 40 dh:37

7 IUI'S - All cancelled due to poor response

IVF #1 October - CANCELLED(Oct 8th)!!!!!
BCP Sept 11 for 16 days, start Lupron sept 23rd, start Gonal F Oct 3rd, Double dose on gonal f to 600 - Oct 6

IVF #2 Mar. 4th - Random BW & US
Mar. 6th - 27th marvelon
Apr. 1 cycle review date and pre-stimulation assessment
Apr. 3 day 1 - start gonal f 450 & menopur 150
Apr 17 day 15 ER!!!
Apr 20 ET
Beta - May 4th BFN

May 27th - Followup with RE


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#50 lovelyme

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:48 AM

In my donor cycle in Czech Republic, our donor produced 12 eggs, of which 10 fertilized, and of those, six remained at day 5: 4 were top quality, and two were second quality embryos. So, we transferred two grade 1's and froze the other 4 (2 gr 1's and 2 gr 2's). So, we have 4 frozens over there. The FET cycle only costs about $750, but of course, you have to pay all the travel costs and meds. From what I hear, having 4 frozen embryos left over is an unusually high number. And yes, the entire cycle is yours there is no sharing.

Luckily, my gynecologist was supportive of my decision to go for donor egg ivf abroad. He wrote the prescriptions here in Canada for me, which meant that my drug plan covered them totally (in my case, maybe not for you depends on your plan obviously). The CZ clinic can send your prescription anywhere, but your drug plan may not cover it unless the prescription is made by a Canadian doctor.

Also, I found it easiest to get my own test results and email them to the clinic by way of a pdf attachment. I didnt really trust that my GP's office would do it, or would send the wrong thing, or send it to the wrong place etc., so I just preferred to do it myself and made sure it was done right.

Rachel