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#1 DesignerBug

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 04:47 AM

So... I read a fair amount prior to conceiving. Then once we conceived I didn't read all that much up until the end. I don't know that I finished all my books, but I thought I had a pretty good grasp of what was to come. Well maybe not as much as I would have thought. Whatever the case, I thought I'd start a thread where I can give some advice from my lessons learned to those who will be there soon. Hopefully some others will join me in adding their thoughts and experiences.

Here it goes...

• Don't plan... well mostly. Educate yourself on everything, but don't plan for anything. Be open to whatever may come, the more relaxed and open you are, the less likely there is room for disappointment or frustration.

• Breastfeeding is pushed in a very biased manner. They make it sound like the end all and be all... again be open, but don't force things. You'll end up frustraed and your nerves shot when you're baby is not only hungry but picking up on your stress.

• Stay in the hospital as long as they'll have you.... I know plenty of women want to rush home. But I'm telling you, an extra day or two with the care and assistance of nurses will help you tones.

• There is a hormone crash 2-3 days post delivery - it's nothing like any hormones crash you've experienced with IVF meds. Quite frankly I deemed it to be worse.

• Accept Help anytime, anywhere... food and frozen meals... even someone to vacuum your house

• Don't be afraid to sleep when you have company... they're there to see the baby, let them.

• It took me 10 days before I felt remotely human again

• 3.5 weeks before I STARTED to find balance

• Make sure you have your baby's doctor lined up ahead of time. Find out when they'll want to see them for their first visit or if they have privileges at the hospital you'll be delivering at. Whether it's your family doc or a pediatrician, speak with them in advance and get an understanding of who expects what and when.

• "Milk" doesn't come in for 4+ days post delivery, so you MIGHT have a hungry baby if the colostrum isn't enough. Be patient


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9 IUIs, 12 months Fermara, 4 months Clomid, 5 rounds of injectable, 1 LAP, 1 HSG, 2 Uterine Biopsies, 1 Postcoital, 1 IVF, 2 FETs... 2nd Fesh Cycle IVF - ++Beta 110!

TTC#2 - Dreams coming true... Surprise BFP Au Naturel! Never really started trying, but never gave up hope on dreams coming true. 20w2, after 6 days of strict bedrest, we lost our baby boy, Emmett to my incompetent cervix and he was born sleeping. 24cm long, 0.67lbs he was the most perfect little angel and has brought with him many lessons for us to remember him by.

Lightening strikes twice apparently>>>> May 24 ++HPT, Followed by ++Beta. Numbers are low, but doubling. EDD Feb1/2013

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 06:01 AM

Great list DB... :)

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#3 DesignerBug

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 06:22 AM

Oh yes and lanolin cream for the nipples!!!!

use it ahead of time, then apply it after everyy feeding and/or shower - it's magic!

Follow "latching" instructions for BFing... a bad latch could take days and many painful feedings to recover from... hence staying in the hospital where they can help with that stuff

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9 IUIs, 12 months Fermara, 4 months Clomid, 5 rounds of injectable, 1 LAP, 1 HSG, 2 Uterine Biopsies, 1 Postcoital, 1 IVF, 2 FETs... 2nd Fesh Cycle IVF - ++Beta 110!

TTC#2 - Dreams coming true... Surprise BFP Au Naturel! Never really started trying, but never gave up hope on dreams coming true. 20w2, after 6 days of strict bedrest, we lost our baby boy, Emmett to my incompetent cervix and he was born sleeping. 24cm long, 0.67lbs he was the most perfect little angel and has brought with him many lessons for us to remember him by.

Lightening strikes twice apparently>>>> May 24 ++HPT, Followed by ++Beta. Numbers are low, but doubling. EDD Feb1/2013

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 07:02 AM

Great list, I hope to be able to use it one day :)
Our Journey to Parenthood
TTC Since September 2007 - Diagnosis "Unexplained Infertility"
Me 28 - DH 30


Sept 2007-2008 - Trying au natural - When it was fun ;)
Sept 2008 Refered to 1st clinic, what a waste of time
Dec 2008 - Told by old clinic both my tubes were blocked, going for a lap...
Feb 2009 - Lap. done, both tubes clear and open, were never blocked
March 2009 - Clinic gave us the wrong patients results - switched clinics
April 2009 - Started at ISIS
May 2009 - 1st B2B IUI - DH counts amazing, 72 and 42 million 90% mobility - BFN!!! devastated beyond words
June 2009 - IUI #2 - 3 Good follicles - June 16th (113 million sperm, 99% motility WOOHOO) and 17th!! Beta Day July 1st - 14DPIUI...AF arrived...wondering how much more we can take :(
July 2009 - IUI #3 - Changed to timed BD...CD10 (July 10th) Only one good follicle, 2.2 I think, chose timed BD instead of IUI#3, due to only one follicle - we are going to try "au natural " this cycle - BFN again...
August 2009 - Taking time off and enjoying each other, 1st adoption meeting Sept 16th, and I also have a free round of Gonal-F waiting for us at the clinic when we decide to go back - Became a Moderator here at IVF.CA!! Thrilled to be about to give back to a wonderful site and great group
September 2009 - Explored the adoption process with Halton CAS Sept. 16 then decided to take time off from TTC and save for more fertility treatments in the future...
October 2009 - Decided to submit our application for adoption (Oct 27th) and started acupuncture, will not give up we will have a family one day
November 2009 - Finally met Karolyn, she stayed with DH and I for 3 days, she is like a sister to me, and had a few wonderful meet up's with other amazing women from the site...words can not describe what an amazing weekend that was
December 2009 - Re-doing a bunch of tests - hopefully a few IUI's in the new year with a different protocol - Maybe PRIDE training in March
January 2010 - Results from SONO and HSG, all looks great, Right tube questionable, not a huge concern as per Dr. Saving for IVF as that is our next option...might be a few years, hopefully not. Hopefully our miracle will come before -Wondering why is this so hard??
Jan 2010 Cont'd - Accepted to PRIDE training starting in March, SAFE home study to follow...We can finally dream again...
March 2010 - Started PRIDE March 22nd - 9 classes, 3 hrs every Monday night - Enjoying the class, looking forward to the future, getting all our documents ready for our SAFE homestudy package
May 1st 2010 - BFP on a HPT!!! Holy crap how did that happen...May 2nd Beta 182...May 4th Beta 300...1st U/S May 14th - 1st U/S shows healthy miracle bean - H/B and all - 127 beats per minute, what a wonderful moment between DH and I


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#5 Tina37

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 08:04 AM

Great Advice!!
Me 40 DH 43IVF 2008 BFPFET 20011 BFNIVF mini Stim 2012 BFNOnto FInal IVF April 2012.Long ProtocolVit-supplementsCoQ10Omega 3 fish oilProgressive prenatal VitB-ComplexFolic Acid 5mg dailyVit-CAcupuncture pre and post ET. Highly recommend this!ET April 30thBFP May 10th 10dp3dt2dp3dt noticed cramping on the left side, pain went down my leg.3dp3dt Cramping continue's till 6dp3dt on and off.6dp3dt noticed breast tenderness9dp3dt continued changes in bbs.10dp3dt BFP hpt6 week US May 29th. Saw Heartbeat!Come on little bean, keep growing! Nicolas born Oct 31 @ 28 weeks. Spent 10 weeks in the NICU. Home and doing great!

#6 tigerlady

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 08:08 AM

and don't forget to eat and drink lots of liquids. I could't find time to eat, it really affects your milk supply :-)


Great list DB!!
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Me 34 DH 50 TTC 5 Years, 2 Ectopic, one tube removed one blocked.. many miscarriages and grief later 1 Laparotomy, 1 Laprascopy
IVF#1
Dec 9, 2008 start BCP Dec 20,2008 Start Suprefact Jan 2, 2009 start Puregon....wooohooo good-bye Suprefact headaches
23 Follicles, 20 growing I am starting to feel like I will burst!!! ER: Jan 14Thank god thats over with!!!!!! 11 Eggs retrieved - 9 Fertilized
ET - Jan 17 930 am - transferred 2 8cell grade 3.5 embryos,,, 2 to Freeze :-)) Beta Jan 28- 113 Beta Jan 30- 339 Beta Feb 2- 1570 DUE DATE Oct 8, 2009 u/s feb 9 One baby!
2nd u/s Feb 20 143 HB! All is well, no more trips to OFC! ITS A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shelby-Anne Darcy was born on Sept 17, 2009 at 1920hrs weighing 7lbs5oz!!!! My beautiful little miracle!!

IVF #2 - Consult Mar 17, 2010!! March 29 - Baseline ultrasound - 26 Follicles Woohoo STarted BCP April 28 Suprefact May 8 225iu Puregon May 21 ER: June 2 11 Eggs retrieved!! Only 6 fertilized ET: June 5 2 embies 8 cell grade 4 and 8 cell grade 3 POAS-a-thon begins June 14 - Beta:June 18 BFP - thought it was miscarriage - nope, thought it was ectopic--no..dont think so, something in the uterus......the suspense.....
MISCARRIAGE :-(

IVF#3 Nov 21 start Suprefact, Dec 3 Puregon ----- stay tuned - transferred 2 perfect eggs on Day 3
We are pregnant!! WOohoo Beta 3025 JAN - One perfect bean measuring a week ahead and a beautiful heartbeat!
Mitchell Robert Alphonse Cormier was born August 02, 2011 at 2014 hrs weighing 6 pounds, 6 ounces~

#7 supermom

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 08:27 AM

The hormone crash is SO true, remind yourself that "this to shall pass" because you feel like an emotional mess.
Take a moment to kiss or hug your husband (or partner), they may perhaps suddenly feel rather excluded. You want to be with baby and baby only seems to want you ... they feel like the odd man out.
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Sixteen week Interstitial pregnancy 2000 (major internal damage done)
2004 & 2007 Adopted our two DS's (both autistic)
Au Natural TTC since 2000+ & Infertility treatments since 2002
November 2008 FET - BFP!!!!
1st beta - 113.5 & 2nd beta - 416
26 weeks and baby weighs 2 pounds 1 ounce
Welcomed Maxwell Thomas Ewing on August 2nd
7 pounds 13 ounces and 20 inches


Four frosties waiting for us!

Total treatments
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#8 ALEX-R

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 10:11 PM

Everything in the list is so true. Especially the breastfeeding, they push it. I got so frustrated from the pushing, ds couldn't latch, it only lasted a month, wish it was more and it would have been if they didn't push me.
IVF March 2006: Successful!!
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10 frozen embryos
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1 frozen blast
FET #5 Maybe sometime in 2010

#9 tannikka

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 11:53 PM

The hormone crash on day three is brutal. It comes out of no where and really bites you in the a##. My DH was at a total loss in what to do with me. It was another mother who shared her story that made me realize that this was normal? Also, breastfeeding is great, if it works for you. Do not stress if you can't. It does not make you a bad mom, it just means that you are going to use formula and not breast milk. Please do not beat yourself up. Great list. I think every new mom needs this thread.
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1st IVF+ ICSI - No Frosties
April 9 - BFN
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Me(35), DH (37)
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Nov 30 Beta - BFN
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3rd IVF + ICSI - 10 Frosties
Six AF called in
Dec 12 Beta -167.7 BFP
Jan 2 - U/S TWINS!!!
March 9 - Identical
March 12 - Laser surgery for TTTS
March 23 - Both babies are fine!!!
April 15 - Another hiccup
April 20 & 29 - Holding steady
June 27/09 - Twin boys, Collin and Rory, 32wk4day

#10 Ope

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:45 AM

Oh those hormone crashes . I remember sitting on my bed and crying just because i took a look at my baby hospital band or folding his tiny socks. And of course dh had no idea what is the matter.
right now me : 37 Dh:40

TTC #1: natural TTC 1.5 yrs
Dh: 35, Severe Male factor infertility, morphology is 1-2%
Me: 32 , tubes open, no endo, regular ovulation, all hormones are good, 3rd day FSH 5.3 , antral follicle count is 12, only problem is my weight BMI: 30

IVF/ ICSI #1: 2008 February -McGill, Montreal
Long protocol: BCP for 1 month, burselin from CD21, 300 Gonal F and 150 Luveris for 10 days
ER: 11 egg , 6 mature , 5 fertilized, 3rd day transfer:a 7 cell & an 8 cell embyos, no frosties.
1st beta : 13dp3dt: 77, BFP
2008,November 19th: Adam has arrived 7 lb 4 oz, 21"

TTC #2: natural TTC 1.5 yr
Dh :39 morphology went up to 4%, we meet the IUI cutoff! count are fluctuating from 30 to 105 million, motility is great. Caryotyping is normal
Me: 36 FSH is slightly elevated and keep rising 8.5, 8.8, 8.9, 9.8 , AFC is still 12, everything else looks good.

IUI #1: Edmonton, 2011 January ,Clomid 50mg (x5), 106 mil ,68% motile, grade 4 :BFN
IUI #2: Edmonton, 2011 February, Clomid 50mg (x5), 30 mil, 57% motile, grade 3: BFN
IUI #3: Edmonton, 2011 March, Clomid 50mg (x5), 88 mil , 49% motile, grade 4: BFN
IVF#2: 2011 May, Edmonton: long protocol , nasal suprefact : CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
IVF#3: 2011 August, Edmonton: short protocol/natural start: CANCELLED due to high progesterone
IVF#4: 2001 September, Edmonton: short protocol with BCP: CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
Change clinic

IVF #5: 2012 March-April Hungary: stimulation starts march 28, 300 Menopur
mixed protocol: BCP for months, CD3: Menopur 300& lupron for 8 days
ER : April 8th , 4 eggs retrieved, all were mature and fertilized with ICSI and AH
ET : April 11th, 1 A quality 8 cell, and 1 A quality 4 cell embryo transferred, no frosties.
BFP on the HPT at 7dp3dt: happy 37th birthday to me :D
Beta: , 12dp3dt: 150, 2nd Beta, 15dp3dt: 550
Anna has arrived on 21st December after being induced at 39 week. She is 6 lb 9 oz, 20" , and has blue eyes, and long dark brown hair and just perfect !

#11 tigerlady

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:53 AM

I had the hormone crash really bad too, it started in the hospital ( I stayed for 5 days), which really made it worse, people pushing you and swarming you and all I would do is cry. I still find myself crying sometimes when I just look at the baby :-)
Anne
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Me 34 DH 50 TTC 5 Years, 2 Ectopic, one tube removed one blocked.. many miscarriages and grief later 1 Laparotomy, 1 Laprascopy
IVF#1
Dec 9, 2008 start BCP Dec 20,2008 Start Suprefact Jan 2, 2009 start Puregon....wooohooo good-bye Suprefact headaches
23 Follicles, 20 growing I am starting to feel like I will burst!!! ER: Jan 14Thank god thats over with!!!!!! 11 Eggs retrieved - 9 Fertilized
ET - Jan 17 930 am - transferred 2 8cell grade 3.5 embryos,,, 2 to Freeze :-)) Beta Jan 28- 113 Beta Jan 30- 339 Beta Feb 2- 1570 DUE DATE Oct 8, 2009 u/s feb 9 One baby!
2nd u/s Feb 20 143 HB! All is well, no more trips to OFC! ITS A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shelby-Anne Darcy was born on Sept 17, 2009 at 1920hrs weighing 7lbs5oz!!!! My beautiful little miracle!!

IVF #2 - Consult Mar 17, 2010!! March 29 - Baseline ultrasound - 26 Follicles Woohoo STarted BCP April 28 Suprefact May 8 225iu Puregon May 21 ER: June 2 11 Eggs retrieved!! Only 6 fertilized ET: June 5 2 embies 8 cell grade 4 and 8 cell grade 3 POAS-a-thon begins June 14 - Beta:June 18 BFP - thought it was miscarriage - nope, thought it was ectopic--no..dont think so, something in the uterus......the suspense.....
MISCARRIAGE :-(

IVF#3 Nov 21 start Suprefact, Dec 3 Puregon ----- stay tuned - transferred 2 perfect eggs on Day 3
We are pregnant!! WOohoo Beta 3025 JAN - One perfect bean measuring a week ahead and a beautiful heartbeat!
Mitchell Robert Alphonse Cormier was born August 02, 2011 at 2014 hrs weighing 6 pounds, 6 ounces~

#12 Adrienne

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:04 AM

Hey gals,

Great list!!!
I loved the breastfeeding pushing and I took all the help that I could get and called in a nurse each time I would feed because they all have bits of different helpful advice.

Learn how to express colostrum, I had no clue until my sister did it for me and then I would feed that extra to the baby.

They also don't tell you how much you're going to swell post deliver!!!! All that extra fluid has to go somewhere and I wasn't prepared for that!

Yes, crazy hormones!!!!! Crying, crying, crying......

Extreme sleep deprivation

If you have a baby with colic, things don't get easier for quite a while.

Take all the help that you can get

Be prepared to feel like you're leaking out of everywhere
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Started Marvelon Oct 14th
Started Suprefact injections Nov 24th
Started Gonal F and Luveris Dec 5th
1st u/s 8 follies-increased Gonal F
ER Dec 19th
9 Eggs retrieved-8 mature
ET Dec 22nd- transfered 2 (none to freeze)
Now the 2ww!
Dec 29-severe OHSS (hospitalized, fluid drained)
12dp3dt beta= over 200 BFP
1st u/s Feb 4th, at 9 weeks, 1 baby!
It's a Boy!

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#13 wishuponastar

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:37 AM

Goodness, as if I needed another reason to love this site! There are so many things that I wish I had been told before I had my DD, and thank you so much to DB for starting this thread...
In my experience, because I had taken so long to get pg, I had lots of time to research and read and "prepare myself"...what I found out after baby came was that my baby was not in any book...you can't "read" about how much labour hurts, or what your baby's different cries mean...this is something you just have to experience.
I read all about breastfeeding and thought I literally "knew it all". Well, I had major problems with breastfeeding...I have a very large chest and my DD's head measured in the 10th percentile...we just didn't match - and we had no lactation consultant in town at the time...it was brutal. Because I thought I "knew it all" I was devastated and took it very personally when breastfeeding wasn't working out. Which brings me to another important one "You newborn is incapable of hating you"....When my hormones crashed, I was like a zombie, and I really convinced myself that I was a horrible mom, that my baby would be better off with my husband, and that I was a failure, and I really thought she hated me. It only lasted a few days...it wasn't full-blown PPD, but I guess it could've been. It is amazing what the hormones can do. The other main thing that shocked me was when you finally start losing all your extra blood-volume and fluid build-up....man, when you've gotta go, you've really gotta go! My first time ever dealing with having to "mad dash" to pee, and it scared me. I couldn't go anywhere for those days...but it doesn't last long.
The last thing - you can heal from pretty much anything...even if you tear a lot, or have a c-section and think you'll never be the same again...you will sooner than you think. And books also don't do justice to describing the "sleep deprivation"...it is just something you read about until you actually experience that too...and even though it can be brutal too, it also gets better.
So, that's it from me....I thought I had lots of support at the time, but there weren't really people around giving me much assurance - I found that my own mom was more "competitive" with me ("I still managed to have dinner on the table for your father when you were a baby..." - "I still managed to keep the house clean")...this made things worse. So now, I guess I am going to re-read all of your posts and take them to heart since I will be going through this again (God-willing).
Again, thanks for starting this awesome thread, and I hope everyone is well.
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#14 Loopy

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:48 PM

They also don't tell you how much you're going to swell post deliver!!!! All that extra fluid has to go somewhere and I wasn't prepared for that!



So True!! Wow...I had not idea post induction/c-sections that my whole body from my waist down was so swollen. It was the worst part of the recovery for me. And the nurses/Dr's, kept saying oh yeah, thats normal! I ended up getting lasix from my Dr's, cause I could barely walk up the stairs at home!
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:58 PM

One thought on the list: this is why i can not repeat here enough times, go and sign up to prenatal classes. Maybe I was lucky to attend a great prenatal class, but we have been told about all these issues. One full 3hr session was devoted to the potential complications at birth, and how to deal with them. It is much easier to deal with the change in plan if you are knowledgeable about what is going on, when things are not going great. Also another full 3hr session was devoted to the breastfeeding and potential problem, because there are problems for many women and without help you will end up bottle feed, because those problem not always trivial. Also baby blues is a issue that most women experience, and it is not postpartum depression, but it can catch you by surprise if you do not know it is exists. Also our prenatal class emphasized a million times is the best preparation for birth is a stacked freezer, and arranged help in housekeeping for the first weeks (paid or family) .
And do NOT skip those chapters in the book which talking about situation when things are not peachy.
right now me : 37 Dh:40

TTC #1: natural TTC 1.5 yrs
Dh: 35, Severe Male factor infertility, morphology is 1-2%
Me: 32 , tubes open, no endo, regular ovulation, all hormones are good, 3rd day FSH 5.3 , antral follicle count is 12, only problem is my weight BMI: 30

IVF/ ICSI #1: 2008 February -McGill, Montreal
Long protocol: BCP for 1 month, burselin from CD21, 300 Gonal F and 150 Luveris for 10 days
ER: 11 egg , 6 mature , 5 fertilized, 3rd day transfer:a 7 cell & an 8 cell embyos, no frosties.
1st beta : 13dp3dt: 77, BFP
2008,November 19th: Adam has arrived 7 lb 4 oz, 21"

TTC #2: natural TTC 1.5 yr
Dh :39 morphology went up to 4%, we meet the IUI cutoff! count are fluctuating from 30 to 105 million, motility is great. Caryotyping is normal
Me: 36 FSH is slightly elevated and keep rising 8.5, 8.8, 8.9, 9.8 , AFC is still 12, everything else looks good.

IUI #1: Edmonton, 2011 January ,Clomid 50mg (x5), 106 mil ,68% motile, grade 4 :BFN
IUI #2: Edmonton, 2011 February, Clomid 50mg (x5), 30 mil, 57% motile, grade 3: BFN
IUI #3: Edmonton, 2011 March, Clomid 50mg (x5), 88 mil , 49% motile, grade 4: BFN
IVF#2: 2011 May, Edmonton: long protocol , nasal suprefact : CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
IVF#3: 2011 August, Edmonton: short protocol/natural start: CANCELLED due to high progesterone
IVF#4: 2001 September, Edmonton: short protocol with BCP: CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
Change clinic

IVF #5: 2012 March-April Hungary: stimulation starts march 28, 300 Menopur
mixed protocol: BCP for months, CD3: Menopur 300& lupron for 8 days
ER : April 8th , 4 eggs retrieved, all were mature and fertilized with ICSI and AH
ET : April 11th, 1 A quality 8 cell, and 1 A quality 4 cell embryo transferred, no frosties.
BFP on the HPT at 7dp3dt: happy 37th birthday to me :D
Beta: , 12dp3dt: 150, 2nd Beta, 15dp3dt: 550
Anna has arrived on 21st December after being induced at 39 week. She is 6 lb 9 oz, 20" , and has blue eyes, and long dark brown hair and just perfect !

#16 Loopy

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:00 PM

When your water breaks...its not just a gush, and then thats it. No...it keeps going and going. TMI, but I was dripping all over the house, My pants were absolutely soaked within minutes, a pad did nothing at all!. Getting into the hospital was not so much fun! I wish I had been prepared with an adult diaper...it would have saved so much time trying to get out of the house.

I also wish someone had told me, when you are feeding your baby that if you say the baby is eating every 2 hours, it means from the START of the feeding to the start of the next. This could be a big difference if breastfeeding is taking a long time! I was in the hospital 2 days before a nurse told me this...I was probably starving my little girl! Maybe thats why both she and I got so frustrated with trying to breastfeed, and ended up switching to formula! Am I the only one who didn't know this??


Trying to dry up your milk if you attempted breast feeding, but it doesn't work is not so much fun! You need a pump, and need to keep pumping regularly for quite sometime before it dries up, which means pumping in between feedings still for a while, which adds to the complete exhaustion in the first couple of weeks.
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IVF/ICSI - Retrieval Sept 27 2008, transfer Sept 30 2008
BFP!!! Due date June 21 2009
Feb 18 - It's confirmed...it's a girl and all went well with the ultrasounds! :)
June 24 2009 - Alexis Lynn born! 6 pounds 7oz at 7:25pm!
"Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will."
~ Dr. Robert Anthony

#17 Duck

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:42 PM

Great idea to make this list DB. Congrats! I will have to reference later! It's funny, I guess because I am not carrying a child, all I read about is the time after they are born (so for me I am far more focused on when they are done baking then the baking!). Great suggestions. It's good to read that it takes a while for the milk to come in, I plan on inducing lactation so I will be pumping for 6 weeks at least before they're born, but, it is good to know what normal boobs do (well "normal pregnancy milk boobs").

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5 pelvic surgeries

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2 different gestational carriers

Now mother of 2 year old twins.


#18 Adrienne

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:43 AM

Hey ladies,

As I continue to read all these posts I think of more stuff that they don't tell you about.

I had a 44 hour labor, most of it drug free until I would no longer dilate any longer and was stuck at a painful 7cm for a few hours before finding out that they had to induce further, meaning an epidural.
I didn't want an epidural, but let me tell you it was the most wonderful relief and I was able to sleep a few hours before the 2 hours of pushing began. After hours of pushing it came down to a forceps delivery or a C-sectiom and we decided on forceps. The OB did a perfect job with the forceps but I tore pretty and had an episiotomy as far as it can go!!!! 30 minutes of stitching later and I was put into my bed to recover with the baby.
So, from my experience the other things that they don't tell you if you end up with an episiotomy

ICE, ICE, ICE..... as long as you can and keep it on there for days
Take all the meds they give you
I couldn't pee without a catheter for a few days and then I couldn't pee without my squirt bottle and running water for weeks.
Your very first BM after your delivery is worse then the entire labor and I'm sure I screamed louder!!!! Also take all the help you can get with the BM's, mineral oil is a wonderful thing!
Take epsom salts baths if they tell you to 2-3x a day, it's worth it, make the time.
You will be more sleep deprived then ever in your life and it is like torture but it does get better.
At one point you might ask yourself why did you have a baby!!! LOL
Now me and baby are also dealing with thrush, not very fun but are on the road to getting rid of it.
Breastfeeding is one of the hardest jobs but if you can make it throught the first few months it's so wonderful and it does get easy.
ME:28 DH:29
TTC since 2005
Male factor infertility
IVF#1
Started Marvelon Oct 14th
Started Suprefact injections Nov 24th
Started Gonal F and Luveris Dec 5th
1st u/s 8 follies-increased Gonal F
ER Dec 19th
9 Eggs retrieved-8 mature
ET Dec 22nd- transfered 2 (none to freeze)
Now the 2ww!
Dec 29-severe OHSS (hospitalized, fluid drained)
12dp3dt beta= over 200 BFP
1st u/s Feb 4th, at 9 weeks, 1 baby!
It's a Boy!

Cooper James Horbas, born Sept 3rd 2009, 7lbs 5 ozs

#19 mouse

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:53 AM

Just wanted to thank all of you chickadees for compiling this list - I know that if I'm lucky enough to make it as far you have, the info will be very helpful (scary! but helpful).

Edited to add: What I learned from my delivery is that we're all really, really different! Or maybe I'm just really contrary, lol. I had no hormone crash and no baby blues. I haven't minded not sleeping nearly as much as I thought I would (who'd have guessed I'd love waltzing my baby to sleep in the golden glow of the street lamps at 3 in the morning?!?) and while going back to work was hard, it was more because I don't get to spend the day with my baby than because of sleep dep.

One thing that everyone told me that HAS turned out to be true is that time absolutely flies by and babies change and grow unbelievably quickly.

Something that no one warned me about (or I don't remember the warning) is that the epidural can stop working - and it can take anesthesia staff hours and hours and hours to show up to fix it - my guy finally turned up about 6 hours after the baby was born. I also had no idea how rough OBs would be - they (at least the ones I had) just about me off the bed shoving right up to their elbows in, rooting around and the vacuum tore going in and ripped coming out - I expected women to be more gentle, lol!

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1 ectopic1 late miscarriageMultiple chemical pregnanciesMany child 'free' yearsSuccess on 2nd IVF (Halleujah! and happy 44th birthday to me!)SHE'S HERE! SHE'S HERE! Born 05/11/2010 8:25pm. 5 lbs 13 ozs of absolute sunshine!Tea parties and glitter! Exploring options for IVF#3 (OE). Test results appear promising and we are greenlighted. 4 mature eggs retrieved 04/06/14. All fertilized normally; scheduled for transfer on 04/09/14. All 4 on board; beta set for 04/17/14. Second beta scheduled for 04/21/14. 3rd beta set for 04/23/14. Sono to check for ectopic set for 04/24


#20 Ope

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:01 PM

Hey ladies,

As I continue to read all these posts I think of more stuff that they don't tell you about.

I had a 44 hour labor, most of it drug free until I would no longer dilate any longer and was stuck at a painful 7cm for a few hours before finding out that they had to induce further, meaning an epidural.
I didn't want an epidural, but let me tell you it was the most wonderful relief and I was able to sleep a few hours before the 2 hours of pushing began. After hours of pushing it came down to a forceps delivery or a C-sectiom and we decided on forceps. The OB did a perfect job with the forceps but I tore pretty and had an episiotomy as far as it can go!!!! 30 minutes of stitching later and I was put into my bed to recover with the baby.
So, from my experience the other things that they don't tell you if you end up with an episiotomy

ICE, ICE, ICE..... as long as you can and keep it on there for days

In our prenatal class the nurse suggested to dampen a feminine pad and put into the freezer. Great idea! (I had episiomy and a forceps delivery, AFTER, 2 hr pushing without epidural)
right now me : 37 Dh:40

TTC #1: natural TTC 1.5 yrs
Dh: 35, Severe Male factor infertility, morphology is 1-2%
Me: 32 , tubes open, no endo, regular ovulation, all hormones are good, 3rd day FSH 5.3 , antral follicle count is 12, only problem is my weight BMI: 30

IVF/ ICSI #1: 2008 February -McGill, Montreal
Long protocol: BCP for 1 month, burselin from CD21, 300 Gonal F and 150 Luveris for 10 days
ER: 11 egg , 6 mature , 5 fertilized, 3rd day transfer:a 7 cell & an 8 cell embyos, no frosties.
1st beta : 13dp3dt: 77, BFP
2008,November 19th: Adam has arrived 7 lb 4 oz, 21"

TTC #2: natural TTC 1.5 yr
Dh :39 morphology went up to 4%, we meet the IUI cutoff! count are fluctuating from 30 to 105 million, motility is great. Caryotyping is normal
Me: 36 FSH is slightly elevated and keep rising 8.5, 8.8, 8.9, 9.8 , AFC is still 12, everything else looks good.

IUI #1: Edmonton, 2011 January ,Clomid 50mg (x5), 106 mil ,68% motile, grade 4 :BFN
IUI #2: Edmonton, 2011 February, Clomid 50mg (x5), 30 mil, 57% motile, grade 3: BFN
IUI #3: Edmonton, 2011 March, Clomid 50mg (x5), 88 mil , 49% motile, grade 4: BFN
IVF#2: 2011 May, Edmonton: long protocol , nasal suprefact : CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
IVF#3: 2011 August, Edmonton: short protocol/natural start: CANCELLED due to high progesterone
IVF#4: 2001 September, Edmonton: short protocol with BCP: CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
Change clinic

IVF #5: 2012 March-April Hungary: stimulation starts march 28, 300 Menopur
mixed protocol: BCP for months, CD3: Menopur 300& lupron for 8 days
ER : April 8th , 4 eggs retrieved, all were mature and fertilized with ICSI and AH
ET : April 11th, 1 A quality 8 cell, and 1 A quality 4 cell embryo transferred, no frosties.
BFP on the HPT at 7dp3dt: happy 37th birthday to me :D
Beta: , 12dp3dt: 150, 2nd Beta, 15dp3dt: 550
Anna has arrived on 21st December after being induced at 39 week. She is 6 lb 9 oz, 20" , and has blue eyes, and long dark brown hair and just perfect !

#21 nikkib

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:29 PM

I have to agree with Ope...I use the femine pads that were dampened and frozen. Same thing...no epidural and pushed for 1 hour. (No episiomy though). They do work wonders.....

One positive note about the hormone crash....when you think you have had enough, and you are at the end of your rope...your baby will look at you and at just the right time they will smile and make everything perfect again (for awhile). It always amazed me that my baby girl would always do it at just the right time.

I had a retained placenta, and had to push after delivery for about 45 minutes to get it out. I knew something wasn't right within hours of having the baby and the nurses just brushed it off. I was given medication to stop the bleeding and nothing seemed to work and they discharged me anyways. I continued to bleed heavy for about 3 weeks after delivery until one day (TMI!) I passed a clot (which included leftover placenta) about the size of both my fists put together. I wish I would have fought harder at the hospital to have something done about it.

I can relate to almost everything that is listed here, and for the most part, I didn't find any of it in any book. I wish someone would have told me.......
Me, 29 DH 38
TTC - Lost count
IVF #1 Burnaby November 8th with ER/ET end of November - Cancelled Estridol too high
IVF #1 Trying again....different med's
ER - February 21 11 embryo's 8 mature 3 of 8 fertilized
ET - February 24 Transferred 2 embryo's 8/6 cell other one stopped growing....nothing to freeze
Beta March 6th BFP
Ultrasound March 26th - SUPRISE!!! It's TWINS!!!!
NT scan showed no heartbeats....m/c twins at 12 weeks...feeling lost.....
IVF #2 September 2008
ER - Sept 21 ET - Sept 24
Beta October 5th - BFP EDD June 14, 2009
My baby girl was born on June 13, 2009 7lbs 4 ozs and 19 inches long.
IVF #3 April 2010
BCP March 16
Baseline April 12 ER April 28
ET May 3 - 2 Top Grade Embies *Come on embies!!!*
Beta May 12th - BFN

June 12th - +++ HPT's (How did that happen?!?)
06/14 Beta 330 ~ 06/21 Beta 5677
Our miracle baby girl born February 20, 2011 6lbs 15 ozs

#22 Ro-Ann

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:11 AM

Hi girls

thank you for putting the list together :)

One thing I remember from my DD's delivery was that the nurse forgot to give me the tube of cream for after to put on the stiches( I had episotomy and teared pretty bad because of forceps) So I went for 4 days in the hospital without it and sufferuiing not knowing since it was my first. Then when I was leaving the new nurse asked if I had my tube of cream. What cream?? it was such a nice relief.

Does anyone know what that cream is, I can't remember and want to bring my own this time :) Was it hemeroid cream ?
Me 34 DH 31
IVF#1 IVF+ICSI

April 18 Started BCP until May 13
May 15 Start Puregon 200
May 16 Day 1
May 19 B/W and U/S showed 12 follies growing.
May 21 Start Orgalutran, continue Puregon 200.
May 27 B/W and U/S: E2 3667, 3 over 17mm, 4 over 15mm, 3 over 13mm and 2 over 9mm.
Trigger Wednesday May 27th
ER Friday May 29th -> Got 8 eggs
Sat May 30th call -> On the 8 only 4 were mature and 3 fertilized!

Monday June 1st, ET transfered 2 embies (10 cell 3.5 and 8 cell 3.5)
June 15th Beta 700!!!
BFP yesssssssss

U/S July 2 shows 1 little heart beat :)
U/S Aug 12 (IPS)
U/S Morphology Sept 29th

Expecting a little BOY !!!!
....

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#23 Loopy

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 07:10 AM

On a good note, this is something I just discovered.

Pre pregnancy I would get the worst cramps for usually one day at the beginning of my period.
Well I noticed, now, that I don't get any at all! I'm not complaining at all, but I was curious as to why, and this is what I found...

"In general, a woman's menstrual cramps do not worsen during her lifetime. In fact, the menstrual cramps of primary dysmenorrhea usually diminish with age and after pregnancy. This is thought to be due to the fact that the nerves of the uterus degenerate with age and disappear late in pregnancy, with only a portion of these nerves regenerating after childbirth."


I didn't know this all, but I sure am enjoying this relief of pain!
DH - Failed Vasectomy Reversal - Feb 2007......Me - Diagnosed PCOS March 2008
IVF/ICSI - Retrieval Sept 27 2008, transfer Sept 30 2008
BFP!!! Due date June 21 2009
Feb 18 - It's confirmed...it's a girl and all went well with the ultrasounds! :)
June 24 2009 - Alexis Lynn born! 6 pounds 7oz at 7:25pm!
"Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will."
~ Dr. Robert Anthony

#24 Ope

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 11:20 AM

On a good note, this is something I just discovered.

Pre pregnancy I would get the worst cramps for usually one day at the beginning of my period.
Well I noticed, now, that I don't get any at all! I'm not complaining at all, but I was curious as to why, and this is what I found...

"In general, a woman's menstrual cramps do not worsen during her lifetime. In fact, the menstrual cramps of primary dysmenorrhea usually diminish with age and after pregnancy. This is thought to be due to the fact that the nerves of the uterus degenerate with age and disappear late in pregnancy, with only a portion of these nerves regenerating after childbirth."
I didn't know this all, but I sure am enjoying this relief of pain!

I used to have terrible menstrual cramps when I was a teenegertoo. My grandma used to say it will disappear once I have a baby. Of course she didn't know why, she actually said, because the baby fix your body, lol
right now me : 37 Dh:40

TTC #1: natural TTC 1.5 yrs
Dh: 35, Severe Male factor infertility, morphology is 1-2%
Me: 32 , tubes open, no endo, regular ovulation, all hormones are good, 3rd day FSH 5.3 , antral follicle count is 12, only problem is my weight BMI: 30

IVF/ ICSI #1: 2008 February -McGill, Montreal
Long protocol: BCP for 1 month, burselin from CD21, 300 Gonal F and 150 Luveris for 10 days
ER: 11 egg , 6 mature , 5 fertilized, 3rd day transfer:a 7 cell & an 8 cell embyos, no frosties.
1st beta : 13dp3dt: 77, BFP
2008,November 19th: Adam has arrived 7 lb 4 oz, 21"

TTC #2: natural TTC 1.5 yr
Dh :39 morphology went up to 4%, we meet the IUI cutoff! count are fluctuating from 30 to 105 million, motility is great. Caryotyping is normal
Me: 36 FSH is slightly elevated and keep rising 8.5, 8.8, 8.9, 9.8 , AFC is still 12, everything else looks good.

IUI #1: Edmonton, 2011 January ,Clomid 50mg (x5), 106 mil ,68% motile, grade 4 :BFN
IUI #2: Edmonton, 2011 February, Clomid 50mg (x5), 30 mil, 57% motile, grade 3: BFN
IUI #3: Edmonton, 2011 March, Clomid 50mg (x5), 88 mil , 49% motile, grade 4: BFN
IVF#2: 2011 May, Edmonton: long protocol , nasal suprefact : CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
IVF#3: 2011 August, Edmonton: short protocol/natural start: CANCELLED due to high progesterone
IVF#4: 2001 September, Edmonton: short protocol with BCP: CANCELLED due to high progresteron & cyst
Change clinic

IVF #5: 2012 March-April Hungary: stimulation starts march 28, 300 Menopur
mixed protocol: BCP for months, CD3: Menopur 300& lupron for 8 days
ER : April 8th , 4 eggs retrieved, all were mature and fertilized with ICSI and AH
ET : April 11th, 1 A quality 8 cell, and 1 A quality 4 cell embryo transferred, no frosties.
BFP on the HPT at 7dp3dt: happy 37th birthday to me :D
Beta: , 12dp3dt: 150, 2nd Beta, 15dp3dt: 550
Anna has arrived on 21st December after being induced at 39 week. She is 6 lb 9 oz, 20" , and has blue eyes, and long dark brown hair and just perfect !

#25 tannikka

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 12:03 PM

Ladies,

How I wish I had known about the frozen pad. Sigh. This is what makes this site so damn good. While I had no forceps, I tore pretty badly, no drugs, TMI I even tore my labia. I did not realize I could tear like that. Yep, half an hour of stitching, with me begging to just leave it alone. LOL. At that point, I just wanted the pain to stop.

Once again, what a great thread!!!!!!!!
Tannikka(40)

Me(34), DH(36)
DS 18(mine) TTC 2 yrs
1st IVF+ ICSI - No Frosties
April 9 - BFN
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Me(35), DH (37)
2nd IVF + ICSI - No Frosties
Nov 30 Beta - BFN
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me (36), DH (38)
New Clinic
3rd IVF + ICSI - 10 Frosties
Six AF called in
Dec 12 Beta -167.7 BFP
Jan 2 - U/S TWINS!!!
March 9 - Identical
March 12 - Laser surgery for TTTS
March 23 - Both babies are fine!!!
April 15 - Another hiccup
April 20 & 29 - Holding steady
June 27/09 - Twin boys, Collin and Rory, 32wk4day