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#1 Trinity28

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 11:04 AM

Just wondering how you girls are doing and what stage you are at.

I had my first appt with Dr V in July (after a 9 month wait). He recommends that I go straight to IVF based on how extensive the Endometriosis is. I did a lap last year (with another doctor) and was diagnosed with Stage IV. Left tube was removed.

Waiting to do a hysterocopy next Friday. Hopefully will be able to cycle soon after. It will be my first IVF. We're excited and can't wait to get started.


me 33 DH 32
Started TTC right after wedding in August 2007
DX: endometriosis
Sep 2008 - laparoscopy, stage IV endo, left tube removed
July 2009 - first appt at MFC with Dr. Virro
Aug 2009 - hysteroscopy: removed large septum, followed by 2 cycles of estrogen therapy
IVF #1 - 2009 (BCP, menopur, puregon & orgalutron)
Day 5 report= 2 blasts and 1 6-cell. Transferred 1 blast. (No frosties.) HPT showing positive starting 8dp5dt
Dec 18 - 11dp5dt- Beta 495! Woohoo!
Jan 8 - first u/s @ 7w2d, baby right on track with heartbeat of 143bpm
Feb 5 - 2nd u/s @ 11w2d, baby very active with heartbeat of 161bpm
March 26 - 18 week anatomy scan.......it's a Girl! Saw baby yawn and wave!
August 22 - at 39w4d through emerg c-section my baby girl arrived! 6lbs 15oz

IVF #2 - Sept 2011 - (BCP, menopur, puregon & orgalutron)
CD13 - ER 6AM, 14 eggs Day 1 Report: Out of 14 eggs, 11 were mature, 6 fertilized, Day 3 Report: 1 6-cell, 5 8-cell, Day 5 Report: 2 blasts "1--" and 1 blast "2--/3--", ET 10am, transferred 1 blast (2 frosties)
Beta - BFN

(Natural) FET #1 - Oct 2011
Lining 0.6cm too thin for transfer - cancelled

FET #2 - Medicated with Lupron and Estrace - Nov 2011
CD19 - Lining check u/s shows thin lining of 6.1mm, being delayed by 4 days, CD 23 - Lining check u/s shows lining 7.1mm, CD 28 - eSET of one embie 4AB0, thawed at 100%HPT showed faint line on 8dp5dt and 9dp5dt but line disappeared on 10dp
Beta - Dec 14 - 6Beta - Dec 16 - 0 - BFN

FET #3 - Natural with Neupogen to help with liningDoc wants to do another natural FET, adding experimental drug called neupogen to my protocol. To be inserted into uterus on CD5. Taking baby aspirin. Crossing fingers lining will be ok for transfer.
CD1 - Feb 10, CD12 - lining check - 7.7mm, CD13 - confirmed ovulation, FET - February 26th
Beta - March 9th - BFN

Immunological Issues explored with Alan Beer Center- normal levels except for slightly elevated NK cells - Dr V recommends IVIg only

IVF #3 - July 2012 (BCP, Puregon, menopur, orgalutron, luveris + IVIg)
- ER July 31st - 9 eggs retrieved- Day 1 report: 6 mature, only 2 fertilized, Dr V wants to proceed with a day 5 transfer, Day 3 report: 1x 6-cell grade 1 and 1x 5-cell, grade 1, Day 5 transfer of 2 embryos, did not make to blast....only 10-12 cells. Any hope for me??
- Beta: BFN

IVF #4 - September 2012 (BCP, Puregon, menopur, orgalutron + IVIg)
- ER Sept 27th - 11 eggs retrieved- Day 1 report: 10 mature, 5 fertilized. Day 3 report: 1 8-cell, 3 4-cell, 1 2-cell (all grade 1). Day 5 report: 1 early blast '1--' and 1 early morula transferred (no frosties). Lining: 0.84cm
- Beta: BFN

IVF #5 - November 2012- f/u appt with Dr V on Nov 2nd to see what protocol he recommends (New drug protocol - BCP, lupron start CD21, all menopur + Intralipids)
- Nov 23rd - intralipids
- Nov 24th - ER @ 9am, 15 eggs collected, 1 fractured. Lovenox added to protocol.
- Day 1 report: 11 mature, 7 fertilized. Day 3 report: 2 8-cell, 2 6-cell, 3 4-cell (all grade 1 except for one 6-cell).
- Day 5 ET @ 10:30am, transferred 2 morulas II, no frosties. Taking lovenox and HCG booster shots during 2ww.
- beta 12dp5dt - 66 with hcg booster
- beta 14dp5dt - 77 with no hcg booster
- beta 18dp5dt - 744!!!!! Total shock!
- repeat betas not doubling but actually stalling, not looking good
- first viability u/s at 7w2d shows empty sac measuring 6w5d
- second viability u/s at 8w2d shows fetal pole and sac measuring 7w. Dr says 99% will miscarriage. HoldIng onto that 1% chance!!
- third u/s at 8w6d shows sac is shrinking and no visible fetus. =(
- take misoprostol 2 doses.......u/s shows miscarriage happened, no need for repeat msoprostol
- f/u with Dr V, going to try a natural IVF next cycle

IVF #6 - March 2013 - Natural IVF
- cycle cancelled due to spontaneous ovulation

IVF #6 (again) - April 2013 (lupron, menopur and puregon)
- day 3 transfer of a 5 cell and a 4 cell, both grade 1 with assisted hatching
- Beta: May 1 (12dp3dt) - BFN

IVF #7 - May 2013 - attempting natural cycle again with 2 neupogen washes on CD6 and CD9
- transferred a 7 cell gr 1 with cracked zona
- Beta: BFN

IVF #8 - told Dr V this will be my LAST cycle
Protocol: Menopur, Puregon, Orgalutron + Saizen
- Day 5 transferred a 1-- and a Morula grade 1 (appears Saizen had no effect on me)
- Beta: BFN

I know I should stop but I can't.................

Went back to see Dr V....attempting few cycles of natural IVF with a day 5 transfer. Hoping natural egg quality is better than my medicated ones.


#2 foxburybaby

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 11:21 AM

Good luck to you. Dr. Virro is really great at what he does..I hope you find success with him. I'm 13 weeks pregnant after my 2nd IVF with Dr. V. We did a SET this time around and it worked :)

If you want to know anything or have any questions...please feel free to contact me :)

Take care,

Fox.
Me 31 Hubby 32
PCOS Dx'd at 16
TTC naturally for a year. Then started clomid x 6 months..not even close to O'ing!
Referred to Dr. Virro/MFC
July 2006
IVF # 1 5 Eggs Retrieved
1 died..4 fertilized
Transfered 2 "Perfect" Embies
Froze 2 "Perfect" Embies
BFP!!! Twins!! B/G
Preterm Labour at 21 wks due to IC
My Angels were born and returned to Heaven January 3rd, 2007
June 2007 FET--Chemical
August 2007-Adoption opportunity presents itself!!
Our Son is born March 2008..the best day of my life.
December 2008--IUI # 1--Chemical
March 2009--IUI #2 -- Cancelled after 3 weeks of Stims..0 response to meds!
May/June 2009--IVF # 2
After 12 days of stims...25 follies measuring 1-2 cm's..retrieval booked for June 4th
Retrieval day...23 follicles retrieved...20 fertilizied!! HOLY COW!!!
Day 3--17 "Oustanding" 8 cell or more and 3 average
Transfer booked for June 9th
One "Spectacular" Embie transfered June 9th
2ww :(
faint bfp 5dp5dt..not getting excited until my beta comes back
darker on 7dp5dt..still holding back the exctitment till the 22nd...
8dp5dt's pee stick..test line is just a shade lighter than the control line..I'm happy and can now stop daily POAS. Still waiting for beta on the 22nd......
Beta # 1-June 22nd : BFP..898!!!
July 6th--First u/s...1 little one..good heartbeat and measuring exactly right for Feb. 24, 2010 Due Date :)
July 13th--2nd U/s..hb is 150bpm and adjusted due date of Feb. 25, 2010
July 27th--3rd u/s due to cramping...hb of 173 and measuring 2 days ahead at 10weeks. Everything looks good!
Aug. 19th--4th u/s. Baby looks/measures perfect. Was moving, kicking and mooning lol. Very happy :)
Next u/s will be at 18wks....
18wk 6day u/s shows we are having a BOY Baby measures exactly right..except for long legs measuring at 20 wks! Showing partial Placenta Previa..so back in a week for another u/s!!!
Brodey Jonas born Feb. 18th, 2010 weighting 9lb 8oz's! 21 inches long and healthy!
Getting ready to make our family bigger!! FET in November
eSET FET November 25th--1 excellent blast transferred. 2ww...ugh
SUPER faint-hold-it-in-only-natural-light-and-wiggle-the-stick-around-now-do-you-see-it BFP 4dp5dFET
5dp5dFET--Line is there and although super faint does not need to be manipulated to be seen!
12dp5dFET--BETA is 584!!! Woo Hoo!!
First u/s! All looks perfectly on track. HB is 112!
Jan 4th 2011-2nd u/s. Saw baby moving..hb of 173. Blood sacs around the baby..to be followed up next week with another u/s.
March 21st u/s shows everything looking exactly as it should and shows that we are expecting another BOY!!



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#3 Luckypenny

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 11:50 AM

Hi Trinity! I hope the hysteroscopy goes well and you can get started with cycling right away!

Foxburybaby - congratulations on you BFP - 13 weeks, that's great! I remember you had another post asking about being released from Dr. Virro's care to go to a midwife (I think it was you). Did you end up switching, or did you decide to stay under Dr. Virro's care?

First appointment for DH and I is October 1st (6 month wait). DH went in for his testing yesterday (blood and sperm sample). I was hoping we could go together, but he really can't get away from work either of the days that I have to go in for ultrasounds (his family owns their own business, and the other two people that manage it are away on vacation right now. Better now than when I really need him!). I am booked for the full bladder ultrasound next Tuesday Aug. 25th and for the SHG on Aug. 31st (we did the tests previously, in January 2008, with another clinic. So there shouldn't be any surprises - I hope!). Then another month wait until we find out what Dr. Virro recommends in terms of a protocol. The wait is going quickly, but I am getting excited about finally meeting with Dr. Virro and hopefully starting with treatment!
Me: 35 DH:35
Dx: Unexplained
Started ttc September 2006
November 2007 - Initial consult at LifeQuest
January 2008 - Diagnostic testing.
February 2008 - Test results - No problems with DH. Dr. suspected I had a PCOS variant and that I probably wasn't ovulating. Suggested superovulation (injectibles) with or without IUI
Decided to forgo treatment for the time being and focus on improving my health.
March 2008 - October 2009 - LOTS of alternative therapy. You name it, I tried it!
February 2009 - confirmed via cycle monitoring I was now ovulating and my ovaries both look fine. Officially unexplained IF. Hmmm, now what?
Next Steps: Had initial consult with Dr. Virro at Markham Fertility Centre on October 1, 2009. Hysteroscopy/laproscopy performed on February 5, 2010. Post op appointment on March 8, 2010. Found out one small spot of endo removed from uterus and a very tiny septum resected.
Started BCP on March 31, 2010.
First IVF (first anything!) cycle after.
Last BCP April 20th.
Started stims: April 25 (Puregon - varied from 100iu to 42.5iu, Menopur - 75iu, and orgalutron)
ER date - May 5th.
14 retrieved, 11 mature, 7 fertilized - 4 via IVF, 3 via ICSI
3 days past retrieval - 5 8-cell embryos (3 via IVF, 2 via ICSI), 2 lagging 6-cell embryos (1 via IVF, 1 via ICSI)
ET on May 10, 5day past retrieval - tranferred 1 "superb, could sell it on e-bay" embaby - grade 5AB0! 4 more "lovely" totsicles (2 5day, 2 6day). The ivf embies did better than the icsi embies.
Beta - May 21s: BFP! Beta was 507! Still early days, but we're happy to be pg!
Viability scan - June 11. Baby right on track, heartrate of 140bpm, measuring 7weeks 1day at just over 1cm long. HOWEVER, big cyst in my right ovary. Going back for another u/s in two weeks to monitor the cyst.
U/S to monitor cyst - June 24 - cyst shrank slightly. Baby still measuring on track, 9weeks 1day and just over 2cm long, heartrate of 167bpm
12week u/s - July 12 - cyst had shrank to 2cm. Baby looked like a baby! Moving around and flailing arms and legs. Just over 5.5cm long, heartrate of 160bpm. Nuchal scan and nasal bone both looked good. Doctor's appointment went well.
20 week ultrasound and doctors appointment - baby looks good - its a girl :) Test results from IPS test show a 1 in 20,000 risk of a chromosomal abnormality. Placenta is partially covering cervix, doctor will check again at 32 weeks.
26 week doctors appointment - GD test
30 week doctors appointment - got GD test results, I passed. Baby measuring on track, good strong heartbeat :)
32 week doctors appointment - u/s to check placenta position to see if it has been pulled up from my cervix and also to check baby's size

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#4 Jen-ttc

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 12:10 PM

Good luck Trinity! Its great to finally be getting down to the short strokes, huh? A hysteroscopy is so worth it and revealed a small septum which was missed before for us. It's also less invasive and requires less recovery than a lap.

Luckypenny - Almost there too! I was there yesterday too for an IVIG infusion which I require monthly to sustain this pregnancy. Ask your hubbie if he saw a woman hooked up to IV while there. hehe ;)

Good luck to you both and keep us posted....

Jen
me (43) & DH (48)
Our darling daughter, Charlotte, born Jan 19, 2010
Furbaby: Lily the dog


Our loooooong journey to parenthood (I keep this to remind me of all the steps along the way and hope it helps others):
  • TTC #1 since 06/01 & charting since 03/02
  • Oct/02: Spontaneous ectopic pregnancy & right tube removed with emerg surgery
  • April 17/04: 1st IVF consult
  • June/04: IVF #1 - 21 retrieved, 2 grade A, 8-cell embryos transferred, 13 frozen: BFN
  • Aug 16/04: FET - 3 transferred & 8/18 - 1 transferred: BFN
  • Nov/04: IVF #2 - 11 retrieved, 9 fertilized, 4 transferred, none to freeze & another BFN
  • June/05: completed home study for China adoption, but put file on hold to pursue IVF at SIRM Las Vegas. In hindsight, not our best decision.
  • Aug/05: Immune testing results: Heterozygous MTHFR, borderline APAs, high ATAs & TSH.
  • Sept/05: IVF #3 at SIRM: worst cycle ever! 7 retrieved, 6 fertilized, none to transfer due to embies arresting by day 3
  • Oct/05: Moving forward with adoption from China.
  • April/06: Adoption file sent for gov't approval
  • July/06: gov't approval for adoption
  • Aug 15/06: DTC! We're Group 273! :)
  • Sept 13/06: LID!! Waiting for our China referral which we now expect in 2012 or later. Meanwhile.....
  • Jan 25/07 & Mar 16/07: Consult at MFC with Dr. V.
  • May 23/07: Lap surgery - remaining tube drained & clipped.
  • Started Natural IVF at MFC in Aug/07 & completed 6 cycles with good embryos but all BFN. 6th NIVF in July, 2008 - transferred 8-cell embryo with IVIG: BFN
  • Oct/08: IVF with injections. 7 eggs, 6 fertilized. IVIG infusion on ER day. Two 5-day blasts transferred & 2 frozen. BFN
  • Nov/08: Additional testing thru Alan Beer Cntr for immune issues showed low LADS (blocking antibodies) & high cytokines, in addition to already known immune issues. LIT & Humira recommended treatment.
  • Feb 13/09: Surgery removed remaining tube & small uterine septum.
  • Mar & April/ 09: Two LIT treatments in Mexico. LADS increased from 4 to 71%! BTW, that's really good!
  • May - June /09 - IVF: ER May 25 - 10 eggs, 9 fertilized; IVIG; transferred 2 5-day blasts & 4 to freeze.
  • Beta test: June 11th>>> Finally a BFP at 518!!!!
  • July 2nd - 1st ultrasound: 2 heartbeats, but only one measuring strong and at expected size.
  • Jul 16th - 2nd u/s: 1 strong heartbeat & our little bean did a dance for us.
  • Aug 5th: 3rd u/s & OB consult - our little bean is looking more like a baby and everything is on target.
  • Sept 23: 18 week check-up (in my 19th week) - We're expecting a baby girl and everything is looking perfect!!
  • EDD: Feb 17/10
  • Our beautiful baby girl arrived early on Tues, Jan 19, 2010.
  • April/10: Withdrew adoption file for China adoption due to extending wait times.
  • Dec /11: Follow-up AEB testing completed. Feb /12: AEB test results: super high cytokines, high TSH, high NKs and borderline MTHFR. Recommended treatment is increase thyroid meds, IVIG, Humira, lovenox, BA and extra folic acid.
  • 2 doses Humira 2 wks apart (June 14 & June 28)
  • Natural FET: Aug 22: CD1. Aug 29th: monitoring starts. Sept 7: IVIG; Sept 8th: transfer 2 frozen blasts. Sept 20th - 1st beta: 66. Sept 24th - repeat beta: 174. Sept 26th - 3rd beta: 284. Sept 28th - 4th beta 457: Oct 1st - 5th beta: 716. Not doubling as expected with a normal pregnancy. Oct 3rd- beta: 1033; u/s to confirm location/ viability: a 6 wk gestational sac in the right place with a flicker of a heartbeat. Oct 9: u/s showed bean with heart rate of 122 and right size. Oct 19th - u/s: We are so sad that there is no heartbeat and embryo stopped growing. :(

#5 lacey

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 01:19 AM

Good luck with your hysteroscopy! I had mine in February and I had to be on Estrogen for 2 months before we could do a cycle. I the cycle in April with my frozen blasts from my previous clinic.

We are getting ready to start our first IVF with Dr. V soon. As soon as AF comes in 2 weeks, I will start the BCP. Looks like just after Thanksgiving or that weekend, I should have the ER. We are doing a few different drugs this time so we are hoping it works!

Dr. V mentioned at my last appt about IVIg and I wasn't assertive enough on asking to try it so I have emailed him earlier this week that I would like to try it and should I make an appt with him to discuss or if he feels strongly against it, I won't bother with the appt. But he hasn't emailed me back AND Tina hasn't returned my call about making an appt (I left the msg on Tues).

I am going to push for the IVIg because with my miscarriages and 2 failed transfers for no apparent reason, I think that's good enough to try something different, especially if this is my last fresh IVF. We aren't sure how much more we can afford, we are 22k once we do this one!
Unexplained, 31, DH 37
TTC for 5 years
M/C at 7.5 weeks May 2006
IUI 1,2,3,4- BFN
IUI 5 BFP, M/C at 9.5 weeks June 2007
IUI 6,7- BFN
IUI/IVF#1 conversion- 1 egg, no fertilization, no transfer
IVF #2- BCP, Suprefact, Puregon
-8 eggs, 6 blasts, transferred 2, froze 4- BFN
Sept 08- new clinic
Oct 08-Diagnosed with uterine septum
Feb 13/09- Hysteroscopy- large septum removed!
Feb-Apr- Estrogen therapy
FET #1- 2 blasts transferred, 0 left frozen- BFN
IVF #3- BCP, Orgalutron, Menopur, Puregon- cancelled
IVF#3-cancelled, converted to IUI #8- BFN
IVF#3, attempt #3 w IVIg Jan/Feb 2010, Depot Lupron, Puregon, Menopur
Feb 21- ER- 10 fertilized ivf/icsi
Feb 26- Transferred 2 perfect blasts, 4 frost babies
Beta Mar 10- 807
March 31- TWINS!!! Baby A- 145bpm Baby B 150bpm (7w3d)
Both babies are breech- c-section scheduled for 38w3days.....Can't wait to find out if they are girls or boys or one of each!
Nov-2010- Boy/Girl twins!!!!! Born perfectly healthy and over 6lbs each!
March- 2012- Surprise BFP!! 887 First u/s Mar 23 Oct 29/13 Repeat csection scheduled Oct 29/13- Baby boy! 8lbs 1oz- successful VBAC (unplanned!!)

#6 Trinity28

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 11:43 AM

Thanks for all the well wishes!

Congrats to Fox and Jen! All the best in your pregnancies.

Lacey - do you remember when you went back to work? They told me I should be okay to return on Monday.

Luckypenny - my DH is suppose to do the sperm DNA test but he hasn't done it yet. Grrrr! Keeps insisting that I help him out! LOL

Which reminds me.....on the day of ER, I understand DH is suppose to give fresh sample. Assuming he will need my help then too, will I be have time (and energy) for him? Just want to be prepared!

When I have my hysteroscopy, I will be on day 9 of my cycle. When do you think I will be able to cycle if Dr. V:
a) finds nothing
b ) finds small septum - one month on estrogen
c) finds large septum - 2 months on estrogen

From what I've read and please correct me if I'm wrong. Does a cycle officially begin on day 21? Do all protocols start off on day 21?


me 33 DH 32
Started TTC right after wedding in August 2007
DX: endometriosis
Sep 2008 - laparoscopy, stage IV endo, left tube removed
July 2009 - first appt at MFC with Dr. Virro
Aug 2009 - hysteroscopy: removed large septum, followed by 2 cycles of estrogen therapy
IVF #1 - 2009 (BCP, menopur, puregon & orgalutron)
Day 5 report= 2 blasts and 1 6-cell. Transferred 1 blast. (No frosties.) HPT showing positive starting 8dp5dt
Dec 18 - 11dp5dt- Beta 495! Woohoo!
Jan 8 - first u/s @ 7w2d, baby right on track with heartbeat of 143bpm
Feb 5 - 2nd u/s @ 11w2d, baby very active with heartbeat of 161bpm
March 26 - 18 week anatomy scan.......it's a Girl! Saw baby yawn and wave!
August 22 - at 39w4d through emerg c-section my baby girl arrived! 6lbs 15oz

IVF #2 - Sept 2011 - (BCP, menopur, puregon & orgalutron)
CD13 - ER 6AM, 14 eggs Day 1 Report: Out of 14 eggs, 11 were mature, 6 fertilized, Day 3 Report: 1 6-cell, 5 8-cell, Day 5 Report: 2 blasts "1--" and 1 blast "2--/3--", ET 10am, transferred 1 blast (2 frosties)
Beta - BFN

(Natural) FET #1 - Oct 2011
Lining 0.6cm too thin for transfer - cancelled

FET #2 - Medicated with Lupron and Estrace - Nov 2011
CD19 - Lining check u/s shows thin lining of 6.1mm, being delayed by 4 days, CD 23 - Lining check u/s shows lining 7.1mm, CD 28 - eSET of one embie 4AB0, thawed at 100%HPT showed faint line on 8dp5dt and 9dp5dt but line disappeared on 10dp
Beta - Dec 14 - 6Beta - Dec 16 - 0 - BFN

FET #3 - Natural with Neupogen to help with liningDoc wants to do another natural FET, adding experimental drug called neupogen to my protocol. To be inserted into uterus on CD5. Taking baby aspirin. Crossing fingers lining will be ok for transfer.
CD1 - Feb 10, CD12 - lining check - 7.7mm, CD13 - confirmed ovulation, FET - February 26th
Beta - March 9th - BFN

Immunological Issues explored with Alan Beer Center- normal levels except for slightly elevated NK cells - Dr V recommends IVIg only

IVF #3 - July 2012 (BCP, Puregon, menopur, orgalutron, luveris + IVIg)
- ER July 31st - 9 eggs retrieved- Day 1 report: 6 mature, only 2 fertilized, Dr V wants to proceed with a day 5 transfer, Day 3 report: 1x 6-cell grade 1 and 1x 5-cell, grade 1, Day 5 transfer of 2 embryos, did not make to blast....only 10-12 cells. Any hope for me??
- Beta: BFN

IVF #4 - September 2012 (BCP, Puregon, menopur, orgalutron + IVIg)
- ER Sept 27th - 11 eggs retrieved- Day 1 report: 10 mature, 5 fertilized. Day 3 report: 1 8-cell, 3 4-cell, 1 2-cell (all grade 1). Day 5 report: 1 early blast '1--' and 1 early morula transferred (no frosties). Lining: 0.84cm
- Beta: BFN

IVF #5 - November 2012- f/u appt with Dr V on Nov 2nd to see what protocol he recommends (New drug protocol - BCP, lupron start CD21, all menopur + Intralipids)
- Nov 23rd - intralipids
- Nov 24th - ER @ 9am, 15 eggs collected, 1 fractured. Lovenox added to protocol.
- Day 1 report: 11 mature, 7 fertilized. Day 3 report: 2 8-cell, 2 6-cell, 3 4-cell (all grade 1 except for one 6-cell).
- Day 5 ET @ 10:30am, transferred 2 morulas II, no frosties. Taking lovenox and HCG booster shots during 2ww.
- beta 12dp5dt - 66 with hcg booster
- beta 14dp5dt - 77 with no hcg booster
- beta 18dp5dt - 744!!!!! Total shock!
- repeat betas not doubling but actually stalling, not looking good
- first viability u/s at 7w2d shows empty sac measuring 6w5d
- second viability u/s at 8w2d shows fetal pole and sac measuring 7w. Dr says 99% will miscarriage. HoldIng onto that 1% chance!!
- third u/s at 8w6d shows sac is shrinking and no visible fetus. =(
- take misoprostol 2 doses.......u/s shows miscarriage happened, no need for repeat msoprostol
- f/u with Dr V, going to try a natural IVF next cycle

IVF #6 - March 2013 - Natural IVF
- cycle cancelled due to spontaneous ovulation

IVF #6 (again) - April 2013 (lupron, menopur and puregon)
- day 3 transfer of a 5 cell and a 4 cell, both grade 1 with assisted hatching
- Beta: May 1 (12dp3dt) - BFN

IVF #7 - May 2013 - attempting natural cycle again with 2 neupogen washes on CD6 and CD9
- transferred a 7 cell gr 1 with cracked zona
- Beta: BFN

IVF #8 - told Dr V this will be my LAST cycle
Protocol: Menopur, Puregon, Orgalutron + Saizen
- Day 5 transferred a 1-- and a Morula grade 1 (appears Saizen had no effect on me)
- Beta: BFN

I know I should stop but I can't.................

Went back to see Dr V....attempting few cycles of natural IVF with a day 5 transfer. Hoping natural egg quality is better than my medicated ones.


#7 aprilbaby

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 05:13 PM

Hi Ladies,

I am here too! Just completed all our testing for Dr. V and am seeing him for the first time in a couple of weeks!

Dh and I are unexplained (maybe mild MF) and have gone through some iui's with letrozole at another clinic. We then adopted our amazing son who is now 2. Dh and I are both 32.

I am a bit nervous abot the appt. The U/S tech already said they seem a curve in my uterus and I know how picky Dr. V is about the shape of the uterus. Seems like everyone who sees him ends up in surgey! I have a BF who has a baby boy thanks to him though so I am excited.


Good luck to all of us newbies.

#8 Lisa1995

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 10:00 AM

Hi all,

I am just waiting to start IVF with Dr V as well. This will be my first IVF with him but #4 for me. I am hoping he will be able to finally make this work for me. I was supposed to see him on Monday to talk about going ahead with this cycle but the office called me Thursday to cancel since he is away :( So now I have to wait another 2 weeks (Sept 4th) to see him and I have already been waiting 2 months since my failed FET in June. I first met with him im Feb and he also found a tiny septum in me. I had that removed in April and just like you Lacey tried my last frozen blasts from my old clinic and BFN. I am starting to get really nervous about try #4 and all the waiting just adds to my nervousness. Plus not knowing when I can actually start is driving me crazy. When I talked to the clinic on the phone they seemed to think I could start in my next cycle once I see him to discuss.

Trinity, I recovered pretty quickly after my hysteroscopy. I went to work on Monday. From what I can remember now (April seems so long ago) I felt pretty good the next day I was just a little tired from the anesthesia so I rested but by Monday I was fine.

Good luck on your cycles everyone.

Lisa

TTC #1: starting in Feb 2005 "unexplained" (immune issues, elevated NK cells, 2 heterozygous MTHFR and 2 heterozygous thrombophilias - Factor XIII and PAI-1 mutations)
me-42, DH-42, married since 1995!
Tried: Naturopath, Chinese herbs, Acupuncture, Homeopathy
4 un-medicated IUI's BFN
IVF # 1 18 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 8 out of 16 fertilized (1/2 ICSI, half IVF), 5 made it to day 5 blast, transferred two, froze 3
first ever BFP m/c
FET #1 medicated, transferred two, started spotting 2 days later, full blown AF 5 days later (decided I don't react well to Estrace, will do natural frozen next time) BFN
FET #2 natural (but still with progesterone (crinone) support, transferred last blast from IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2 16 eggs retrieved, decided not to do ICSI this time since cycle #1 showed eggs could fertilize on their own, only 3 fertilized! None made it to blast for transfer no transfer! Disaster!
IVF #3 decided to add some repronex to the stims and do all ICSI. 18 eggs, 17 mature and 15 fertilized, 8 made it to day 5 blast. Transferred two blasts, froze 6 BFN
FET#3 added 3 HCG booster shots and doubled up on the crinone to prevent me from spotting early (as I often do), transferred 2 blasts, no spotting but a BFN anyway
FET #4- added ovidral just before my natural ovulation so they could pin point it more accurately with the 36 hour window, HCG shots again, plus double crinone BFN
January 2009 Consult with new RE in Markham - he finds a small septum, resected April 29, 09 - tells me to now try my last two frozen blasts
FET #5 - ET scheduled for June 15 (natural cycle with trigger, HCG booster and crinone) - BFN
On to Plan B- Switch clinic to Markham for
#4 Fresh IVF with IVIg, exploring immune testing - start BCP Sept 20. ER around week of Oct. 25
9 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured. 7 to work with. 4 out of 7 fertilized (Day 3: 1 8 cell grade 1, 2 8 cell grade 2 and 1 morula). Day 5 transferred 1 great blast and 1 morula (1 morula and 1 10 cell did not make it to freezing).
Beta Nov. 11 - BFP! (550) I am in shock!
Issues with spotting, Nov 20, second beta 11,000 and early ultrasound: saw gestational sac and yolk sac in the right place but concern about a cyst or possible ectopic near my ovary as well, 4 more ultrasounds over a 10 day period, last ultrasound on Dec. 2 'cyst' has not grown and baby measuring on target at 7wks, 1day with a heart beat of 153bpm.
Now taking Lovenox due to 2 heterozygous thrombophilias
Ultrasound on Dec. 18 (9 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 167
Ultrasound on Dec. 22 due to extra heavy spotting, baby still measuring on track, hb 167 and dancing
Ultrasound on Jan. 8 (12 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 160, baby doing crunches!
18 week anatomy scan scheduled for Feb. 16 - they lost my blood work for the second part of the IPS so no results for that today (they took blood again) but the 18 week scan went great, baby looked awesome and even gave us a little wave in between sucking her thumb and inspecting her toes. Yes, I said "her" - it's a little girl!
20 week ultrasound at Mt. Sinai and they agree, so far so good.
IPS results are in and they are excellent!
EDD: July 19, 2010
Baby girl arrived at 39 weeks, 2 days! July 14, 2010 3:12 am, weighing 7 pounds even.
May 2013 - The IVF Journey continues...one last try to see if a sibling is in the cards...
Did LIT, IVIg, Lovenox and low dose aspirin. 5 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured, 3 to work with, 2 fertilized with ICSI.
June 5, day 3 transfer of 2 8 cell grade 2 embryos.BFN
April 2014, one very last try - natural IVF with intralipids this time, 2! dominant follicles, 2 mature eggs retrieved, both fertilize with ICSI, day 3 transfer scheduled for April 13, transferred 1 8-cell grade one and 1 6-cell grade one (also using Lovenox and low dose ASA) -BFN, we are really done, not sure if it is now my immune system, or old eggs now too.


#9 lacey

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 11:03 AM

Trinity- I went back to work on the Wed I think. I took a few days off because I don't seem to react well to being knocked out. I wake up pretty sick and nauseous so I took it easy. I could have back on Monday though but I had days for this occasion already!

I haven't done an IVF with Dr. V yet but with Mt. Sinai, DH had to give his sample while they were hooking me up to the IV's. But, we have done so many IUI's, and IVF plus an IUI/IVF convsersion, DH is used to doing it and never asked for my help. He says he can do some things on his own! lol. It's never been issue to have me with him for the samples so not sure about that aspect.
Unexplained, 31, DH 37
TTC for 5 years
M/C at 7.5 weeks May 2006
IUI 1,2,3,4- BFN
IUI 5 BFP, M/C at 9.5 weeks June 2007
IUI 6,7- BFN
IUI/IVF#1 conversion- 1 egg, no fertilization, no transfer
IVF #2- BCP, Suprefact, Puregon
-8 eggs, 6 blasts, transferred 2, froze 4- BFN
Sept 08- new clinic
Oct 08-Diagnosed with uterine septum
Feb 13/09- Hysteroscopy- large septum removed!
Feb-Apr- Estrogen therapy
FET #1- 2 blasts transferred, 0 left frozen- BFN
IVF #3- BCP, Orgalutron, Menopur, Puregon- cancelled
IVF#3-cancelled, converted to IUI #8- BFN
IVF#3, attempt #3 w IVIg Jan/Feb 2010, Depot Lupron, Puregon, Menopur
Feb 21- ER- 10 fertilized ivf/icsi
Feb 26- Transferred 2 perfect blasts, 4 frost babies
Beta Mar 10- 807
March 31- TWINS!!! Baby A- 145bpm Baby B 150bpm (7w3d)
Both babies are breech- c-section scheduled for 38w3days.....Can't wait to find out if they are girls or boys or one of each!
Nov-2010- Boy/Girl twins!!!!! Born perfectly healthy and over 6lbs each!
March- 2012- Surprise BFP!! 887 First u/s Mar 23 Oct 29/13 Repeat csection scheduled Oct 29/13- Baby boy! 8lbs 1oz- successful VBAC (unplanned!!)

#10 Luckypenny

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 09:11 PM

aprilbaby - I'm concerned that Dr. V. will want a hysteroscopy for me too before proceeding with any treatment. I handn't even thought of that until I saw one of his other patients post on here that he wanted them to do one because they had a T shaped uterus (I know from previous testing that my uterus is anteverted, with a small dip in the fundus). I haven't mentioned this to DH. Whenever I start talking about what might happen, or what I think will happen, DH says we should wait and see what the doctor actually says vs. jumping ahead before we have even seen him. Its interesting that the tech told you anything during your testing, vs. making you wait to get the results from the doctor.

Trinity - my DH definitely is not a fan of the sample process! At our last clinic the doctor said he knows men hate doing it, but that he needed the results. DH gritted his teeth and went off to do the test (I booked the appointment. At Lifequest they sent patients to Mt. Sinai for sperm analysis). Oh, and he refused to talk about it afterwards. When we got the information package from Markham, I just handed DH the list of requirements. He asked if he had to do it again since he already had, and I just said "read it. We both have to re-do our tests since they haven't been done in the last three months". He said the process was better at Markham. At Mt. Sinai there were lots of men getting tests, so he knew there was someone in the waiting room waiting for him to get out of the room. As if there isn't enough pressure! He said there wasn't anyone else doing the testing at the same time as him at Markham. Oh, in terms of "helping your DH out" (this may be TMI, but...), keep in mind that the enzymes in saliva damage sperm (ah, the things IF has taught me!).

I'm off to do my full bladder test tomorrow (so uncomfortable!).

Good luck and lots of baby dust to everyone!
Me: 35 DH:35
Dx: Unexplained
Started ttc September 2006
November 2007 - Initial consult at LifeQuest
January 2008 - Diagnostic testing.
February 2008 - Test results - No problems with DH. Dr. suspected I had a PCOS variant and that I probably wasn't ovulating. Suggested superovulation (injectibles) with or without IUI
Decided to forgo treatment for the time being and focus on improving my health.
March 2008 - October 2009 - LOTS of alternative therapy. You name it, I tried it!
February 2009 - confirmed via cycle monitoring I was now ovulating and my ovaries both look fine. Officially unexplained IF. Hmmm, now what?
Next Steps: Had initial consult with Dr. Virro at Markham Fertility Centre on October 1, 2009. Hysteroscopy/laproscopy performed on February 5, 2010. Post op appointment on March 8, 2010. Found out one small spot of endo removed from uterus and a very tiny septum resected.
Started BCP on March 31, 2010.
First IVF (first anything!) cycle after.
Last BCP April 20th.
Started stims: April 25 (Puregon - varied from 100iu to 42.5iu, Menopur - 75iu, and orgalutron)
ER date - May 5th.
14 retrieved, 11 mature, 7 fertilized - 4 via IVF, 3 via ICSI
3 days past retrieval - 5 8-cell embryos (3 via IVF, 2 via ICSI), 2 lagging 6-cell embryos (1 via IVF, 1 via ICSI)
ET on May 10, 5day past retrieval - tranferred 1 "superb, could sell it on e-bay" embaby - grade 5AB0! 4 more "lovely" totsicles (2 5day, 2 6day). The ivf embies did better than the icsi embies.
Beta - May 21s: BFP! Beta was 507! Still early days, but we're happy to be pg!
Viability scan - June 11. Baby right on track, heartrate of 140bpm, measuring 7weeks 1day at just over 1cm long. HOWEVER, big cyst in my right ovary. Going back for another u/s in two weeks to monitor the cyst.
U/S to monitor cyst - June 24 - cyst shrank slightly. Baby still measuring on track, 9weeks 1day and just over 2cm long, heartrate of 167bpm
12week u/s - July 12 - cyst had shrank to 2cm. Baby looked like a baby! Moving around and flailing arms and legs. Just over 5.5cm long, heartrate of 160bpm. Nuchal scan and nasal bone both looked good. Doctor's appointment went well.
20 week ultrasound and doctors appointment - baby looks good - its a girl :) Test results from IPS test show a 1 in 20,000 risk of a chromosomal abnormality. Placenta is partially covering cervix, doctor will check again at 32 weeks.
26 week doctors appointment - GD test
30 week doctors appointment - got GD test results, I passed. Baby measuring on track, good strong heartbeat :)
32 week doctors appointment - u/s to check placenta position to see if it has been pulled up from my cervix and also to check baby's size

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#11 aprilbaby

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 02:18 PM

LuckyPenny,

I can't believe I never thought about the enzyme damage issue LOL!!! I have helped dh out many times! Although, he never needs the help and had no help for his DNA test at Markham. He is nervous about those results, he thinks something may be wrong with his DNA. After so long of unexplained I guess we worry about everything. HOwever, he has had some mild MF in the past although the doctors never made an issue about it, except one.

I hope I will be able to proceed with treatment without any surgery. I am very anti-drugs, surgery so it will be hard for me. This is why I never really did too much arts. However, I know Dr. V is the best so I after 6 plus years if unexplained IF I am pretty much ready to do whatever. At least I think I am. You never know with me.

I have my appt in a couple of weeks.I need to go get my old file from my other clinic.

Hope everyone enjoys this gorgeous day

#12 Luckypenny

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 12:08 PM

aprilbaby - waiting for the test results is the worst! For a bit I wasn't too keen on the thought of fertility meds, surgery, etc. either. I have been concentrating on alternative therapy for the last year and a half. It has improved things, but at this point I have tried SO many things, I think it is time to move forward. I think all of the improvements we have made can only increase the likelihood of success. I too decided to go to Dr. Virro because I had heard such great things about him, and I am actually starting to look forward to meeting him and getting started with treatment.

I went for the 3D ultrasound, transvaginal ultrasound and bloodwork yesterday. I have to go back next Monday for the sonohysterogram. It was somewhat interesting for me because I hadn't been to Dr. Virro's office before. He wasn't there, just Dr. P. I guess the fact that I seemed to be the only non-preggo lady there is a testament to what a great clinic it is. Even the ladies who didn't look pg. when in for appointments and re-emerged smiling and holding ultrasound pics. My appointment was a bit bizarre. When the technician was doing the first part of the ultrasound she asked me if I was trying to get pregnant. ?!?!. I could see this question at one of the other True North Imaging locations. At the Thornhill location True North imaging is not right in a fertility clinic, and when I was there for the same tests in January 2008, there were lots of older women and younger girls, presumably with issues with their ovaries or uterus. But in Markham I was right in the fertility clinic. Wierd, but I just replied yes. Maybe she works at more than one location and just sort of forgot where she was. Then after the tests were done (and I was putting my pants back on with her in the room. Another wierd moment. Usually they tell you to change elsewhere, or leave the room. I get that they are going to see it all anyway, its just awkward), she said something and I told her I had had the tests before, but it was a year and a half ago and with a different physician, so I needed to do the tests again. Then she asked if I had had surgery. ?!?!. Did something inside of me look like I had had some sort of surgery? I replied no, why, did something look like I had surgery. She just sort of changed the subject. I told her that I had the tests done before in Thornhill with Dr. Hartman. She said it will be him doing the test next week. I'm kind of hoping he will tell me what he sees. I'm curious if everything is the same. When I did the tests in Thornhill he did tell me that my tubes were open, but nothing else. When I got the results from my doctor the report said that I have an arcuate uterus (dip in the fundus) and that my left ovary was enlarged and had many small cysts and noted that it looked borderline for PCOS (but my right ovary looked fine). The shape of my uterus shouldn't change, but I am curious to see if there are any changes in my ovaries - if the left is better or worse and if the right has changed. And of course hoping the tubes are still fine (no reason they should change, but I always start to overthink things before a test). I did cycle monitoring in January with another doctor and I ovulated from my left ovary (which had previously looked borderline for PCOS) with a 20mm follicle on CD14. The tech at that time said the ovary looked fine (I could tell the technician yesterday wasn't about to tell me anything!). No chance I will ovulate that early this cycle. I am already on CD13, and hardly any fertile cervical mucous (I remember in a previous life when i would have died before talking openly about CM! Infertility doesn't leave alot of room for modesty). After all the tests, I went back up to the front desk and asked Tina if I could do my bloodwork. She asked if I was a new patient. Umm..... After I handed her my health card she seemed to remember who I was again.

I already have my records from my other doc, and have forwarded them to Dr. Virro. On my previous report from True North Imaging someone (the tech?) wrote "Good Luck" in the margin. ?!?!?! Like "Good Luck", as in I wish you success, or like "Good Luck" as in "I've seen what's inside of you and you're going to need all the luck you can get". Again, wierd.

6 more weeks until my appointment with Dr. Virro, and I am starting to count down. Happily the summer has gone quickly. It seemed so far away when we made the appointment in March.
Me: 35 DH:35
Dx: Unexplained
Started ttc September 2006
November 2007 - Initial consult at LifeQuest
January 2008 - Diagnostic testing.
February 2008 - Test results - No problems with DH. Dr. suspected I had a PCOS variant and that I probably wasn't ovulating. Suggested superovulation (injectibles) with or without IUI
Decided to forgo treatment for the time being and focus on improving my health.
March 2008 - October 2009 - LOTS of alternative therapy. You name it, I tried it!
February 2009 - confirmed via cycle monitoring I was now ovulating and my ovaries both look fine. Officially unexplained IF. Hmmm, now what?
Next Steps: Had initial consult with Dr. Virro at Markham Fertility Centre on October 1, 2009. Hysteroscopy/laproscopy performed on February 5, 2010. Post op appointment on March 8, 2010. Found out one small spot of endo removed from uterus and a very tiny septum resected.
Started BCP on March 31, 2010.
First IVF (first anything!) cycle after.
Last BCP April 20th.
Started stims: April 25 (Puregon - varied from 100iu to 42.5iu, Menopur - 75iu, and orgalutron)
ER date - May 5th.
14 retrieved, 11 mature, 7 fertilized - 4 via IVF, 3 via ICSI
3 days past retrieval - 5 8-cell embryos (3 via IVF, 2 via ICSI), 2 lagging 6-cell embryos (1 via IVF, 1 via ICSI)
ET on May 10, 5day past retrieval - tranferred 1 "superb, could sell it on e-bay" embaby - grade 5AB0! 4 more "lovely" totsicles (2 5day, 2 6day). The ivf embies did better than the icsi embies.
Beta - May 21s: BFP! Beta was 507! Still early days, but we're happy to be pg!
Viability scan - June 11. Baby right on track, heartrate of 140bpm, measuring 7weeks 1day at just over 1cm long. HOWEVER, big cyst in my right ovary. Going back for another u/s in two weeks to monitor the cyst.
U/S to monitor cyst - June 24 - cyst shrank slightly. Baby still measuring on track, 9weeks 1day and just over 2cm long, heartrate of 167bpm
12week u/s - July 12 - cyst had shrank to 2cm. Baby looked like a baby! Moving around and flailing arms and legs. Just over 5.5cm long, heartrate of 160bpm. Nuchal scan and nasal bone both looked good. Doctor's appointment went well.
20 week ultrasound and doctors appointment - baby looks good - its a girl :) Test results from IPS test show a 1 in 20,000 risk of a chromosomal abnormality. Placenta is partially covering cervix, doctor will check again at 32 weeks.
26 week doctors appointment - GD test
30 week doctors appointment - got GD test results, I passed. Baby measuring on track, good strong heartbeat :)
32 week doctors appointment - u/s to check placenta position to see if it has been pulled up from my cervix and also to check baby's size

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#13 aprilbaby

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 12:24 PM

Wierd! Was you u/s tech a kind of heavy set women in her 40's with short blondish hair or a darker girl, I think INdian. The blondish girl was my tech. She told me that everything looked fine but that my uterus had a dip. I guess Dr. Hartman did my sonotest also. He was amazing in terms of getting the catheter in( doctors usually have a hard time with me). He also told me my tubes were "beautiful". I also asked him which side I was ovulating from and he told me it was the left. He was really nice. I think he can tell you whatever you want because he is a medical doctor. The u/s tech cannot.

Hmmm?? Did your other clinic tell you that your uterus was an issue? I guess not. Well, I know that Dr. V is VERY picky about the uterus shape so be prepared to hear something about that. I know I am preparing myself.

Dr. V also delivers babies so that is why all those pregnant ladies are there. I guess it gives a positive vibe to the place.

Wishing you luck on your sono. Let me know what happens.



aprilbaby - waiting for the test results is the worst! For a bit I wasn't too keen on the thought of fertility meds, surgery, etc. either. I have been concentrating on alternative therapy for the last year and a half. It has improved things, but at this point I have tried SO many things, I think it is time to move forward. I think all of the improvements we have made can only increase the likelihood of success. I too decided to go to Dr. Virro because I had heard such great things about him, and I am actually starting to look forward to meeting him and getting started with treatment.

I went for the 3D ultrasound, transvaginal ultrasound and bloodwork yesterday. I have to go back next Monday for the sonohysterogram. It was somewhat interesting for me because I hadn't been to Dr. Virro's office before. He wasn't there, just Dr. P. I guess the fact that I seemed to be the only non-preggo lady there is a testament to what a great clinic it is. Even the ladies who didn't look pg. when in for appointments and re-emerged smiling and holding ultrasound pics. My appointment was a bit bizarre. When the technician was doing the first part of the ultrasound she asked me if I was trying to get pregnant. ?!?!. I could see this question at one of the other True North Imaging locations. At the Thornhill location True North imaging is not right in a fertility clinic, and when I was there for the same tests in January 2008, there were lots of older women and younger girls, presumably with issues with their ovaries or uterus. But in Markham I was right in the fertility clinic. Wierd, but I just replied yes. Maybe she works at more than one location and just sort of forgot where she was. Then after the tests were done (and I was putting my pants back on with her in the room. Another wierd moment. Usually they tell you to change elsewhere, or leave the room. I get that they are going to see it all anyway, its just awkward), she said something and I told her I had had the tests before, but it was a year and a half ago and with a different physician, so I needed to do the tests again. Then she asked if I had had surgery. ?!?!. Did something inside of me look like I had had some sort of surgery? I replied no, why, did something look like I had surgery. She just sort of changed the subject. I told her that I had the tests done before in Thornhill with Dr. Hartman. She said it will be him doing the test next week. I'm kind of hoping he will tell me what he sees. I'm curious if everything is the same. When I did the tests in Thornhill he did tell me that my tubes were open, but nothing else. When I got the results from my doctor the report said that I have an arcuate uterus (dip in the fundus) and that my left ovary was enlarged and had many small cysts and noted that it looked borderline for PCOS (but my right ovary looked fine). The shape of my uterus shouldn't change, but I am curious to see if there are any changes in my ovaries - if the left is better or worse and if the right has changed. And of course hoping the tubes are still fine (no reason they should change, but I always start to overthink things before a test). I did cycle monitoring in January with another doctor and I ovulated from my left ovary (which had previously looked borderline for PCOS) with a 20mm follicle on CD14. The tech at that time said the ovary looked fine (I could tell the technician yesterday wasn't about to tell me anything!). No chance I will ovulate that early this cycle. I am already on CD13, and hardly any fertile cervical mucous (I remember in a previous life when i would have died before talking openly about CM! Infertility doesn't leave alot of room for modesty). After all the tests, I went back up to the front desk and asked Tina if I could do my bloodwork. She asked if I was a new patient. Umm..... After I handed her my health card she seemed to remember who I was again.

I already have my records from my other doc, and have forwarded them to Dr. Virro. On my previous report from True North Imaging someone (the tech?) wrote "Good Luck" in the margin. ?!?!?! Like "Good Luck", as in I wish you success, or like "Good Luck" as in "I've seen what's inside of you and you're going to need all the luck you can get". Again, wierd.

6 more weeks until my appointment with Dr. Virro, and I am starting to count down. Happily the summer has gone quickly. It seemed so far away when we made the appointment in March.



#14 Luckypenny

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 01:50 PM

Aprilbaby Ė I did know that Dr. Virro is an OBGYN and patients continue under his care for the entire pregnancy. Its another thing that I liked about him. I guess it just feels weird to be the only non-preggo lady in an infertility clinic! But its nice to know that most of those women have probably been in our position, and now they have little miracles on the way!

The tech that I had was the smaller, darker girl. Dr. Hartman is great, and I agree, I think he will be willing to answer my questions and elaborate on what he sees during the testing.

My previous doctor (at Lifequest) wasnít concerned that my uterus was arcuate (he indicated that he wasnít concerned because the tests didnít show a septum). He said that he didnít really feel that the dip in the fundus of my uterus would affect my fertility. He said that there were probably lots of women who have arcuate uterusí, but are completely fertile. I have heard that Dr. Virro often likes to do a hysteroscopy when a patient has an arcuate uterus, so I am prepared for that (I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it, but at least it won't be a shock if he suggests it).

Hope the next couple of weeks go quickly for you and let us know how your appointment goes!
Me: 35 DH:35
Dx: Unexplained
Started ttc September 2006
November 2007 - Initial consult at LifeQuest
January 2008 - Diagnostic testing.
February 2008 - Test results - No problems with DH. Dr. suspected I had a PCOS variant and that I probably wasn't ovulating. Suggested superovulation (injectibles) with or without IUI
Decided to forgo treatment for the time being and focus on improving my health.
March 2008 - October 2009 - LOTS of alternative therapy. You name it, I tried it!
February 2009 - confirmed via cycle monitoring I was now ovulating and my ovaries both look fine. Officially unexplained IF. Hmmm, now what?
Next Steps: Had initial consult with Dr. Virro at Markham Fertility Centre on October 1, 2009. Hysteroscopy/laproscopy performed on February 5, 2010. Post op appointment on March 8, 2010. Found out one small spot of endo removed from uterus and a very tiny septum resected.
Started BCP on March 31, 2010.
First IVF (first anything!) cycle after.
Last BCP April 20th.
Started stims: April 25 (Puregon - varied from 100iu to 42.5iu, Menopur - 75iu, and orgalutron)
ER date - May 5th.
14 retrieved, 11 mature, 7 fertilized - 4 via IVF, 3 via ICSI
3 days past retrieval - 5 8-cell embryos (3 via IVF, 2 via ICSI), 2 lagging 6-cell embryos (1 via IVF, 1 via ICSI)
ET on May 10, 5day past retrieval - tranferred 1 "superb, could sell it on e-bay" embaby - grade 5AB0! 4 more "lovely" totsicles (2 5day, 2 6day). The ivf embies did better than the icsi embies.
Beta - May 21s: BFP! Beta was 507! Still early days, but we're happy to be pg!
Viability scan - June 11. Baby right on track, heartrate of 140bpm, measuring 7weeks 1day at just over 1cm long. HOWEVER, big cyst in my right ovary. Going back for another u/s in two weeks to monitor the cyst.
U/S to monitor cyst - June 24 - cyst shrank slightly. Baby still measuring on track, 9weeks 1day and just over 2cm long, heartrate of 167bpm
12week u/s - July 12 - cyst had shrank to 2cm. Baby looked like a baby! Moving around and flailing arms and legs. Just over 5.5cm long, heartrate of 160bpm. Nuchal scan and nasal bone both looked good. Doctor's appointment went well.
20 week ultrasound and doctors appointment - baby looks good - its a girl :) Test results from IPS test show a 1 in 20,000 risk of a chromosomal abnormality. Placenta is partially covering cervix, doctor will check again at 32 weeks.
26 week doctors appointment - GD test
30 week doctors appointment - got GD test results, I passed. Baby measuring on track, good strong heartbeat :)
32 week doctors appointment - u/s to check placenta position to see if it has been pulled up from my cervix and also to check baby's size

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#15 Lisa1995

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 03:35 PM

Hi,

My septum was super tiny (my other RE never even mentioned it to me) but Dr. V wanted to remove it anyway. It was only 5mm which from what I have read is a size most other REs would ignore as a non-issue (it took up about 1/4 of the inside of my uterus). From my research it is more common to want to remove it when it is 1cm or larger (so mine was 1/2 that). But given my history of failure Dr V wanted to remove it. I imagine some REs would have called me arcuate (but I never even had that said to me).

I am guessing Dr V probably has a lot of patients who were not fertility patients as well because he has a good reputation as an obgyn so women probably seek him out who also got pregnant normally. Maybe some people come to him for other gynecological issues as well so that is why the ultrasound technician wanted to clarify what you were there for?

I know the wait for test results is hard, try not to let your imagination drive you crazy wondering what the ultrasound tech saw. You are in good hands with Dr V and I am sure there is nothing there he can't find a solution for.

Luckypenny, I was a little like you in the beginning. At first I tried to take the least invasive route possible. I started out with a naturopath tried supplements, Bowen Therapy then moved to chinese herbs and acupunture with her (with which she caused me immense pain) then I did unmedicated IUIs with acupunture, before moving onto IVF. I then tried homeopathy and a new acupuncturist who did not hurt me and still no luck! I am hoping Dr V can "solve me".

TTC #1: starting in Feb 2005 "unexplained" (immune issues, elevated NK cells, 2 heterozygous MTHFR and 2 heterozygous thrombophilias - Factor XIII and PAI-1 mutations)
me-42, DH-42, married since 1995!
Tried: Naturopath, Chinese herbs, Acupuncture, Homeopathy
4 un-medicated IUI's BFN
IVF # 1 18 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 8 out of 16 fertilized (1/2 ICSI, half IVF), 5 made it to day 5 blast, transferred two, froze 3
first ever BFP m/c
FET #1 medicated, transferred two, started spotting 2 days later, full blown AF 5 days later (decided I don't react well to Estrace, will do natural frozen next time) BFN
FET #2 natural (but still with progesterone (crinone) support, transferred last blast from IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2 16 eggs retrieved, decided not to do ICSI this time since cycle #1 showed eggs could fertilize on their own, only 3 fertilized! None made it to blast for transfer no transfer! Disaster!
IVF #3 decided to add some repronex to the stims and do all ICSI. 18 eggs, 17 mature and 15 fertilized, 8 made it to day 5 blast. Transferred two blasts, froze 6 BFN
FET#3 added 3 HCG booster shots and doubled up on the crinone to prevent me from spotting early (as I often do), transferred 2 blasts, no spotting but a BFN anyway
FET #4- added ovidral just before my natural ovulation so they could pin point it more accurately with the 36 hour window, HCG shots again, plus double crinone BFN
January 2009 Consult with new RE in Markham - he finds a small septum, resected April 29, 09 - tells me to now try my last two frozen blasts
FET #5 - ET scheduled for June 15 (natural cycle with trigger, HCG booster and crinone) - BFN
On to Plan B- Switch clinic to Markham for
#4 Fresh IVF with IVIg, exploring immune testing - start BCP Sept 20. ER around week of Oct. 25
9 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured. 7 to work with. 4 out of 7 fertilized (Day 3: 1 8 cell grade 1, 2 8 cell grade 2 and 1 morula). Day 5 transferred 1 great blast and 1 morula (1 morula and 1 10 cell did not make it to freezing).
Beta Nov. 11 - BFP! (550) I am in shock!
Issues with spotting, Nov 20, second beta 11,000 and early ultrasound: saw gestational sac and yolk sac in the right place but concern about a cyst or possible ectopic near my ovary as well, 4 more ultrasounds over a 10 day period, last ultrasound on Dec. 2 'cyst' has not grown and baby measuring on target at 7wks, 1day with a heart beat of 153bpm.
Now taking Lovenox due to 2 heterozygous thrombophilias
Ultrasound on Dec. 18 (9 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 167
Ultrasound on Dec. 22 due to extra heavy spotting, baby still measuring on track, hb 167 and dancing
Ultrasound on Jan. 8 (12 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 160, baby doing crunches!
18 week anatomy scan scheduled for Feb. 16 - they lost my blood work for the second part of the IPS so no results for that today (they took blood again) but the 18 week scan went great, baby looked awesome and even gave us a little wave in between sucking her thumb and inspecting her toes. Yes, I said "her" - it's a little girl!
20 week ultrasound at Mt. Sinai and they agree, so far so good.
IPS results are in and they are excellent!
EDD: July 19, 2010
Baby girl arrived at 39 weeks, 2 days! July 14, 2010 3:12 am, weighing 7 pounds even.
May 2013 - The IVF Journey continues...one last try to see if a sibling is in the cards...
Did LIT, IVIg, Lovenox and low dose aspirin. 5 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured, 3 to work with, 2 fertilized with ICSI.
June 5, day 3 transfer of 2 8 cell grade 2 embryos.BFN
April 2014, one very last try - natural IVF with intralipids this time, 2! dominant follicles, 2 mature eggs retrieved, both fertilize with ICSI, day 3 transfer scheduled for April 13, transferred 1 8-cell grade one and 1 6-cell grade one (also using Lovenox and low dose ASA) -BFN, we are really done, not sure if it is now my immune system, or old eggs now too.


#16 Luckypenny

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:43 PM

Hey Lisa. For me the hesitation to move forward with tradtional fertility treatments was that I just felt a bit overwhelmed. I know that it often takes many treatments to overcome fertilty issues, and I didn't feel emotionally ready to move forward (I just really wasn't sure that I could deal with the ups and downs, and I knew I needed to be in a place where I could). Also, I wasn't really sure what to do about work (we live 2 hours from Toronto. The closest clinic to us would be Barrie, and even that is a 1 hour drive) which added another element of stress. I decided to pursue alternative treatment, and found that alot of what I read put a really negative spin on western methods to treat fertility problems. Of course, this made me even more hesitant to start treatment. Eventually, I got to a point where I felt that I had given alternative treatment a fair chance. I also felt more centred, happy and basically just much more relaxed, and more able to envision being able to cope with the emotional aspects of treatment (alot of the alternative treatment I did focused on my nervous system and I went to a psychotherapist for counselling for 6 months, both of which helped so much). I know there may be frustrations and disappointments that come with fertility treatment, but I am ready to take that chance to pursue our dreams of starting a family. I now feel that both alternative treatments and western medicine can be appropriate treatments. I have decided that if I need to take some time off of work, that's okay, and my husband supports it. When the time comes I will tell my employer that I am going to need some time off, and that I can't specify how much or when. I'm willing to come in when I am free to help out (where I work, having me part time is probably still preferrable to me taking a leave of absence). I'm also better now about setting boundaries, and I don't feel that I have to tell them why I need to be away, only that it is personal. I'm not going to worry or stress about it until we get to the point where we have a treatment plan and are starting cycle monitoring.

Thanks too for the reassurance that Dr. Virro is great and not to worry about the test results, he can work with whatever they happen to be. Sometimes it is easy to lose sight of that in the middle of testing, even though it is exactly why we want him to be our doctor. I see your next appointment is next week. Good luck! I'm sure your perserverance will pay off and Dr. Virro will have a plan to move forward.

I guess I didn't really consider Dr. V. having pateints who become pg. naturally since it takes SO long to get in to see him (6 months seems to be pretty normal, and his patient list often seems to be full). I can't imagine being pg. and waiting for 6 month to see an OBGYN. I do know that once you are his patient, you are always his patient (which is nice reassurance).

I'm so glad I found this forum. Its great to have a support network, a place to ask questions and a group of women who understand what you are going through. I feel more comfortable with the process, simply because this forum has answered alot of the unknowns.
Me: 35 DH:35
Dx: Unexplained
Started ttc September 2006
November 2007 - Initial consult at LifeQuest
January 2008 - Diagnostic testing.
February 2008 - Test results - No problems with DH. Dr. suspected I had a PCOS variant and that I probably wasn't ovulating. Suggested superovulation (injectibles) with or without IUI
Decided to forgo treatment for the time being and focus on improving my health.
March 2008 - October 2009 - LOTS of alternative therapy. You name it, I tried it!
February 2009 - confirmed via cycle monitoring I was now ovulating and my ovaries both look fine. Officially unexplained IF. Hmmm, now what?
Next Steps: Had initial consult with Dr. Virro at Markham Fertility Centre on October 1, 2009. Hysteroscopy/laproscopy performed on February 5, 2010. Post op appointment on March 8, 2010. Found out one small spot of endo removed from uterus and a very tiny septum resected.
Started BCP on March 31, 2010.
First IVF (first anything!) cycle after.
Last BCP April 20th.
Started stims: April 25 (Puregon - varied from 100iu to 42.5iu, Menopur - 75iu, and orgalutron)
ER date - May 5th.
14 retrieved, 11 mature, 7 fertilized - 4 via IVF, 3 via ICSI
3 days past retrieval - 5 8-cell embryos (3 via IVF, 2 via ICSI), 2 lagging 6-cell embryos (1 via IVF, 1 via ICSI)
ET on May 10, 5day past retrieval - tranferred 1 "superb, could sell it on e-bay" embaby - grade 5AB0! 4 more "lovely" totsicles (2 5day, 2 6day). The ivf embies did better than the icsi embies.
Beta - May 21s: BFP! Beta was 507! Still early days, but we're happy to be pg!
Viability scan - June 11. Baby right on track, heartrate of 140bpm, measuring 7weeks 1day at just over 1cm long. HOWEVER, big cyst in my right ovary. Going back for another u/s in two weeks to monitor the cyst.
U/S to monitor cyst - June 24 - cyst shrank slightly. Baby still measuring on track, 9weeks 1day and just over 2cm long, heartrate of 167bpm
12week u/s - July 12 - cyst had shrank to 2cm. Baby looked like a baby! Moving around and flailing arms and legs. Just over 5.5cm long, heartrate of 160bpm. Nuchal scan and nasal bone both looked good. Doctor's appointment went well.
20 week ultrasound and doctors appointment - baby looks good - its a girl :) Test results from IPS test show a 1 in 20,000 risk of a chromosomal abnormality. Placenta is partially covering cervix, doctor will check again at 32 weeks.
26 week doctors appointment - GD test
30 week doctors appointment - got GD test results, I passed. Baby measuring on track, good strong heartbeat :)
32 week doctors appointment - u/s to check placenta position to see if it has been pulled up from my cervix and also to check baby's size

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#17 aprilbaby

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 07:06 AM

WARNING: ds mentioned

I am also a great believer in alternative medicine and have tried accupuncture (still am!), herbs, uterine massage, detox, supplements etc. I also had a very strong pull towards adoption and knew from a very young age that one (or more) of my children were coming through adoption. DH and I knew had decided to adopt before we were married and now we have the most amazing DS. He is beyond words and the love of our lives. It's amazing because I signed up for this forum at the beginning of last year and named myself AprilBaby because I had a feeling that a baby was coming in april. In fact, we were matched with DS right at the beginning of April! We def want to adopt again and and are actually in the process (SHH!!Don't tell anyone LOL)

HOwever, I also have such a strong desire to experience pregnancy and finally feel that this block on ARTS from the universe has been lifted off me! If someone had told me that I would wait 6plus years of IF before I actually did injectibles I would never have believe it!! But there was the strongest most undeniable block in my heart about ARTS although I wanted so bad to pursue it as two of my BF's were going through IVF during these years. But now (and even then) I know that it was all meant to be. My story with ARTS is actually so funny because so many things happened to prevent it! I even tried numerous times to get an appt with DR. V but had no success.

BTW do you know Dr. V does natural IVF? This is partly why I am seeing him. I would love to try this avenue first.

Have a wonderful day!









Hey Lisa. For me the hesitation to move forward with tradtional fertility treatments was that I just felt a bit overwhelmed. I know that it often takes many treatments to overcome fertilty issues, and I didn't feel emotionally ready to move forward (I just really wasn't sure that I could deal with the ups and downs, and I knew I needed to be in a place where I could). Also, I wasn't really sure what to do about work (we live 2 hours from Toronto. The closest clinic to us would be Barrie, and even that is a 1 hour drive) which added another element of stress. I decided to pursue alternative treatment, and found that alot of what I read put a really negative spin on western methods to treat fertility problems. Of course, this made me even more hesitant to start treatment. Eventually, I got to a point where I felt that I had given alternative treatment a fair chance. I also felt more centred, happy and basically just much more relaxed, and more able to envision being able to cope with the emotional aspects of treatment (alot of the alternative treatment I did focused on my nervous system and I went to a psychotherapist for counselling for 6 months, both of which helped so much). I know there may be frustrations and disappointments that come with fertility treatment, but I am ready to take that chance to pursue our dreams of starting a family. I now feel that both alternative treatments and western medicine can be appropriate treatments. I have decided that if I need to take some time off of work, that's okay, and my husband supports it. When the time comes I will tell my employer that I am going to need some time off, and that I can't specify how much or when. I'm willing to come in when I am free to help out (where I work, having me part time is probably still preferrable to me taking a leave of absence). I'm also better now about setting boundaries, and I don't feel that I have to tell them why I need to be away, only that it is personal. I'm not going to worry or stress about it until we get to the point where we have a treatment plan and are starting cycle monitoring.

Thanks too for the reassurance that Dr. Virro is great and not to worry about the test results, he can work with whatever they happen to be. Sometimes it is easy to lose sight of that in the middle of testing, even though it is exactly why we want him to be our doctor. I see your next appointment is next week. Good luck! I'm sure your perserverance will pay off and Dr. Virro will have a plan to move forward.

I guess I didn't really consider Dr. V. having pateints who become pg. naturally since it takes SO long to get in to see him (6 months seems to be pretty normal, and his patient list often seems to be full). I can't imagine being pg. and waiting for 6 month to see an OBGYN. I do know that once you are his patient, you are always his patient (which is nice reassurance).

I'm so glad I found this forum. Its great to have a support network, a place to ask questions and a group of women who understand what you are going through. I feel more comfortable with the process, simply because this forum has answered alot of the unknowns.



#18 Jen-ttc

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 08:26 AM

a barge for April - to answer your question on natural IVF. Yes, he does and I have done a few. It's soooo much easier on the body and pocketbook. If you want to know more about it, I'd be happy to share my experience.
me (43) & DH (48)
Our darling daughter, Charlotte, born Jan 19, 2010
Furbaby: Lily the dog


Our loooooong journey to parenthood (I keep this to remind me of all the steps along the way and hope it helps others):
  • TTC #1 since 06/01 & charting since 03/02
  • Oct/02: Spontaneous ectopic pregnancy & right tube removed with emerg surgery
  • April 17/04: 1st IVF consult
  • June/04: IVF #1 - 21 retrieved, 2 grade A, 8-cell embryos transferred, 13 frozen: BFN
  • Aug 16/04: FET - 3 transferred & 8/18 - 1 transferred: BFN
  • Nov/04: IVF #2 - 11 retrieved, 9 fertilized, 4 transferred, none to freeze & another BFN
  • June/05: completed home study for China adoption, but put file on hold to pursue IVF at SIRM Las Vegas. In hindsight, not our best decision.
  • Aug/05: Immune testing results: Heterozygous MTHFR, borderline APAs, high ATAs & TSH.
  • Sept/05: IVF #3 at SIRM: worst cycle ever! 7 retrieved, 6 fertilized, none to transfer due to embies arresting by day 3
  • Oct/05: Moving forward with adoption from China.
  • April/06: Adoption file sent for gov't approval
  • July/06: gov't approval for adoption
  • Aug 15/06: DTC! We're Group 273! :)
  • Sept 13/06: LID!! Waiting for our China referral which we now expect in 2012 or later. Meanwhile.....
  • Jan 25/07 & Mar 16/07: Consult at MFC with Dr. V.
  • May 23/07: Lap surgery - remaining tube drained & clipped.
  • Started Natural IVF at MFC in Aug/07 & completed 6 cycles with good embryos but all BFN. 6th NIVF in July, 2008 - transferred 8-cell embryo with IVIG: BFN
  • Oct/08: IVF with injections. 7 eggs, 6 fertilized. IVIG infusion on ER day. Two 5-day blasts transferred & 2 frozen. BFN
  • Nov/08: Additional testing thru Alan Beer Cntr for immune issues showed low LADS (blocking antibodies) & high cytokines, in addition to already known immune issues. LIT & Humira recommended treatment.
  • Feb 13/09: Surgery removed remaining tube & small uterine septum.
  • Mar & April/ 09: Two LIT treatments in Mexico. LADS increased from 4 to 71%! BTW, that's really good!
  • May - June /09 - IVF: ER May 25 - 10 eggs, 9 fertilized; IVIG; transferred 2 5-day blasts & 4 to freeze.
  • Beta test: June 11th>>> Finally a BFP at 518!!!!
  • July 2nd - 1st ultrasound: 2 heartbeats, but only one measuring strong and at expected size.
  • Jul 16th - 2nd u/s: 1 strong heartbeat & our little bean did a dance for us.
  • Aug 5th: 3rd u/s & OB consult - our little bean is looking more like a baby and everything is on target.
  • Sept 23: 18 week check-up (in my 19th week) - We're expecting a baby girl and everything is looking perfect!!
  • EDD: Feb 17/10
  • Our beautiful baby girl arrived early on Tues, Jan 19, 2010.
  • April/10: Withdrew adoption file for China adoption due to extending wait times.
  • Dec /11: Follow-up AEB testing completed. Feb /12: AEB test results: super high cytokines, high TSH, high NKs and borderline MTHFR. Recommended treatment is increase thyroid meds, IVIG, Humira, lovenox, BA and extra folic acid.
  • 2 doses Humira 2 wks apart (June 14 & June 28)
  • Natural FET: Aug 22: CD1. Aug 29th: monitoring starts. Sept 7: IVIG; Sept 8th: transfer 2 frozen blasts. Sept 20th - 1st beta: 66. Sept 24th - repeat beta: 174. Sept 26th - 3rd beta: 284. Sept 28th - 4th beta 457: Oct 1st - 5th beta: 716. Not doubling as expected with a normal pregnancy. Oct 3rd- beta: 1033; u/s to confirm location/ viability: a 6 wk gestational sac in the right place with a flicker of a heartbeat. Oct 9: u/s showed bean with heart rate of 122 and right size. Oct 19th - u/s: We are so sad that there is no heartbeat and embryo stopped growing. :(

#19 aprilbaby

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 08:33 AM

TTC#1

How is your pregnancy going? You must be so excited after everything you have been through!

I would love to know more about the natural ivf process! Can you outline the whole process starting from CD1? And let me know what drugs you used and if you used any for the ER and transfer. Thank you so much!

Also, do you think Dr. V will be open to doing nivf with someone with unexplained and possible slight mf and possibly high fsh LOL? Lot's of probablities here.

Thank you

#20 Lisa1995

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:05 AM

Hi Luckypenny, I found that being unexplained also made me want to pursue the natural treatments. I thought maybe there is just some subtle thing wrong with me and this is all I need to do to fix it. IVF seemed so scary and extreme (and now look at me! lol :lol:). It must be hard living so far away from IF clinics, that would add another layer of stress. My old clinic was a 15 minute walk from my work here in TO so it was very convenient as I also live near downtown. So there is some added stress for me to commute up to Markham now but I am hoping Dr V will be worth it.

Good point about the waiting list and patients who get pregnant naturally not being so likely. I think I thought that because I had read a review on rate my MD that seemed to imply the woman came to him with her high risk pregnancy and she also thought he was great. But I like your way of thinking better anyway - all of those pregnant women we see there were because of his skills!

aprilbaby, that is wonderful that you adopted your ds and have had such a good experience. My brother and SIL adopted a little boy from Ukraine a little over 2 years ago and we all adore him. He is such a cheerful little guy. Although, I saw all of the hassles they went through to get him so am a little intimidated by the whole adoption process. Did you adopt domestically or internationally? How long did the process take?

TTC#1, natural IVF does sound intriguing. If they still have to do a retrieval and fertilize the embryo why is the cost so much less? How does that all work?

Lisa

TTC #1: starting in Feb 2005 "unexplained" (immune issues, elevated NK cells, 2 heterozygous MTHFR and 2 heterozygous thrombophilias - Factor XIII and PAI-1 mutations)
me-42, DH-42, married since 1995!
Tried: Naturopath, Chinese herbs, Acupuncture, Homeopathy
4 un-medicated IUI's BFN
IVF # 1 18 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 8 out of 16 fertilized (1/2 ICSI, half IVF), 5 made it to day 5 blast, transferred two, froze 3
first ever BFP m/c
FET #1 medicated, transferred two, started spotting 2 days later, full blown AF 5 days later (decided I don't react well to Estrace, will do natural frozen next time) BFN
FET #2 natural (but still with progesterone (crinone) support, transferred last blast from IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2 16 eggs retrieved, decided not to do ICSI this time since cycle #1 showed eggs could fertilize on their own, only 3 fertilized! None made it to blast for transfer no transfer! Disaster!
IVF #3 decided to add some repronex to the stims and do all ICSI. 18 eggs, 17 mature and 15 fertilized, 8 made it to day 5 blast. Transferred two blasts, froze 6 BFN
FET#3 added 3 HCG booster shots and doubled up on the crinone to prevent me from spotting early (as I often do), transferred 2 blasts, no spotting but a BFN anyway
FET #4- added ovidral just before my natural ovulation so they could pin point it more accurately with the 36 hour window, HCG shots again, plus double crinone BFN
January 2009 Consult with new RE in Markham - he finds a small septum, resected April 29, 09 - tells me to now try my last two frozen blasts
FET #5 - ET scheduled for June 15 (natural cycle with trigger, HCG booster and crinone) - BFN
On to Plan B- Switch clinic to Markham for
#4 Fresh IVF with IVIg, exploring immune testing - start BCP Sept 20. ER around week of Oct. 25
9 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured. 7 to work with. 4 out of 7 fertilized (Day 3: 1 8 cell grade 1, 2 8 cell grade 2 and 1 morula). Day 5 transferred 1 great blast and 1 morula (1 morula and 1 10 cell did not make it to freezing).
Beta Nov. 11 - BFP! (550) I am in shock!
Issues with spotting, Nov 20, second beta 11,000 and early ultrasound: saw gestational sac and yolk sac in the right place but concern about a cyst or possible ectopic near my ovary as well, 4 more ultrasounds over a 10 day period, last ultrasound on Dec. 2 'cyst' has not grown and baby measuring on target at 7wks, 1day with a heart beat of 153bpm.
Now taking Lovenox due to 2 heterozygous thrombophilias
Ultrasound on Dec. 18 (9 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 167
Ultrasound on Dec. 22 due to extra heavy spotting, baby still measuring on track, hb 167 and dancing
Ultrasound on Jan. 8 (12 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 160, baby doing crunches!
18 week anatomy scan scheduled for Feb. 16 - they lost my blood work for the second part of the IPS so no results for that today (they took blood again) but the 18 week scan went great, baby looked awesome and even gave us a little wave in between sucking her thumb and inspecting her toes. Yes, I said "her" - it's a little girl!
20 week ultrasound at Mt. Sinai and they agree, so far so good.
IPS results are in and they are excellent!
EDD: July 19, 2010
Baby girl arrived at 39 weeks, 2 days! July 14, 2010 3:12 am, weighing 7 pounds even.
May 2013 - The IVF Journey continues...one last try to see if a sibling is in the cards...
Did LIT, IVIg, Lovenox and low dose aspirin. 5 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured, 3 to work with, 2 fertilized with ICSI.
June 5, day 3 transfer of 2 8 cell grade 2 embryos.BFN
April 2014, one very last try - natural IVF with intralipids this time, 2! dominant follicles, 2 mature eggs retrieved, both fertilize with ICSI, day 3 transfer scheduled for April 13, transferred 1 8-cell grade one and 1 6-cell grade one (also using Lovenox and low dose ASA) -BFN, we are really done, not sure if it is now my immune system, or old eggs now too.


#21 Jen-ttc

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:20 AM

Everything is going well, thanks for asking.

I suspect Dr. V will want you to try IVF with ICSI if you have any MF issues. That may mean he will suggest medicated IVF so you can get more eggs to work with. In any case, here is what I did with natural.

Unlike a medicated cycle where you are suppressed the month before (Birth Control Pills), CD1 is really CD for the month you will be doing retrieval and transfer. So, it is much shorter which is both good and bad. Good because you don't have to wait so long and bad because sometimes it means you can't get in due to the lab already being booked (by ladies getting in the month before you). The lab takes a set number each week. Anyway, you call on CD1 and go in on CD2 (I beleive) for full bladder u/s and b/w/. then you usually start daily morning monitoring on Cd7 or 8. They track your LH and size of follies and will trigger you when you look ready with HCG. This is needed in order to be able to retrieve the egg. You ay or may not have to take Orgalutron, which freezes the egg and can prevent it from releasing before retrieval. I did not take it. I did try retrieval without twilight anesthesia and even with only one poke, it really hurt (likely due to scarring) and I requested twilight every time after that. Dr. V always tried to get me not to mostly because it took longer to hook me up then it did to get the egg. But, IU stuck to my guns. I am one of those people who reacts well to it and do not have any side effects other than needing to sleep after. As with medicated IVF, they will call you to let you know if the egg has fertilized. If all goes well, they will do the transfer on day 3, not day 5 since they do not want to take teh rsik with only one egg. There is a chance they miss the egg (you ovulate before ER) or it is too mature/ not mature enough is not good quality or does not fertilize. For these reasons, some women prefer medicated and Dr V may recommend it too. I took the suggested antibiotics with ER/ET and also progesterone support for the 2 week wait. In addition, I did IVIG the day after ER (they needed to confirm positive fertilization). So, no stims at all and that was the big difference.

Still, I did two medicated cycles with Dr. V and unlike previous ones, he had me on a miniscule dose of stims and I did not have the side effects and poor results I had had before at other clinics. I chalk this up to his conservative approach to sitms and close monitoring and adjusting the dose based on bloodwork and u/s.

I hope this helps.

Jen
me (43) & DH (48)
Our darling daughter, Charlotte, born Jan 19, 2010
Furbaby: Lily the dog


Our loooooong journey to parenthood (I keep this to remind me of all the steps along the way and hope it helps others):
  • TTC #1 since 06/01 & charting since 03/02
  • Oct/02: Spontaneous ectopic pregnancy & right tube removed with emerg surgery
  • April 17/04: 1st IVF consult
  • June/04: IVF #1 - 21 retrieved, 2 grade A, 8-cell embryos transferred, 13 frozen: BFN
  • Aug 16/04: FET - 3 transferred & 8/18 - 1 transferred: BFN
  • Nov/04: IVF #2 - 11 retrieved, 9 fertilized, 4 transferred, none to freeze & another BFN
  • June/05: completed home study for China adoption, but put file on hold to pursue IVF at SIRM Las Vegas. In hindsight, not our best decision.
  • Aug/05: Immune testing results: Heterozygous MTHFR, borderline APAs, high ATAs & TSH.
  • Sept/05: IVF #3 at SIRM: worst cycle ever! 7 retrieved, 6 fertilized, none to transfer due to embies arresting by day 3
  • Oct/05: Moving forward with adoption from China.
  • April/06: Adoption file sent for gov't approval
  • July/06: gov't approval for adoption
  • Aug 15/06: DTC! We're Group 273! :)
  • Sept 13/06: LID!! Waiting for our China referral which we now expect in 2012 or later. Meanwhile.....
  • Jan 25/07 & Mar 16/07: Consult at MFC with Dr. V.
  • May 23/07: Lap surgery - remaining tube drained & clipped.
  • Started Natural IVF at MFC in Aug/07 & completed 6 cycles with good embryos but all BFN. 6th NIVF in July, 2008 - transferred 8-cell embryo with IVIG: BFN
  • Oct/08: IVF with injections. 7 eggs, 6 fertilized. IVIG infusion on ER day. Two 5-day blasts transferred & 2 frozen. BFN
  • Nov/08: Additional testing thru Alan Beer Cntr for immune issues showed low LADS (blocking antibodies) & high cytokines, in addition to already known immune issues. LIT & Humira recommended treatment.
  • Feb 13/09: Surgery removed remaining tube & small uterine septum.
  • Mar & April/ 09: Two LIT treatments in Mexico. LADS increased from 4 to 71%! BTW, that's really good!
  • May - June /09 - IVF: ER May 25 - 10 eggs, 9 fertilized; IVIG; transferred 2 5-day blasts & 4 to freeze.
  • Beta test: June 11th>>> Finally a BFP at 518!!!!
  • July 2nd - 1st ultrasound: 2 heartbeats, but only one measuring strong and at expected size.
  • Jul 16th - 2nd u/s: 1 strong heartbeat & our little bean did a dance for us.
  • Aug 5th: 3rd u/s & OB consult - our little bean is looking more like a baby and everything is on target.
  • Sept 23: 18 week check-up (in my 19th week) - We're expecting a baby girl and everything is looking perfect!!
  • EDD: Feb 17/10
  • Our beautiful baby girl arrived early on Tues, Jan 19, 2010.
  • April/10: Withdrew adoption file for China adoption due to extending wait times.
  • Dec /11: Follow-up AEB testing completed. Feb /12: AEB test results: super high cytokines, high TSH, high NKs and borderline MTHFR. Recommended treatment is increase thyroid meds, IVIG, Humira, lovenox, BA and extra folic acid.
  • 2 doses Humira 2 wks apart (June 14 & June 28)
  • Natural FET: Aug 22: CD1. Aug 29th: monitoring starts. Sept 7: IVIG; Sept 8th: transfer 2 frozen blasts. Sept 20th - 1st beta: 66. Sept 24th - repeat beta: 174. Sept 26th - 3rd beta: 284. Sept 28th - 4th beta 457: Oct 1st - 5th beta: 716. Not doubling as expected with a normal pregnancy. Oct 3rd- beta: 1033; u/s to confirm location/ viability: a 6 wk gestational sac in the right place with a flicker of a heartbeat. Oct 9: u/s showed bean with heart rate of 122 and right size. Oct 19th - u/s: We are so sad that there is no heartbeat and embryo stopped growing. :(

#22 Jen-ttc

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:25 AM

Lisa - the cost is less because they do not monitor you for as long (4-7 days vs. 8-15 days), there are less eggs to work with and you do not have to pay for the stims, which tend to be half the cost or more of the cycle.
me (43) & DH (48)
Our darling daughter, Charlotte, born Jan 19, 2010
Furbaby: Lily the dog


Our loooooong journey to parenthood (I keep this to remind me of all the steps along the way and hope it helps others):
  • TTC #1 since 06/01 & charting since 03/02
  • Oct/02: Spontaneous ectopic pregnancy & right tube removed with emerg surgery
  • April 17/04: 1st IVF consult
  • June/04: IVF #1 - 21 retrieved, 2 grade A, 8-cell embryos transferred, 13 frozen: BFN
  • Aug 16/04: FET - 3 transferred & 8/18 - 1 transferred: BFN
  • Nov/04: IVF #2 - 11 retrieved, 9 fertilized, 4 transferred, none to freeze & another BFN
  • June/05: completed home study for China adoption, but put file on hold to pursue IVF at SIRM Las Vegas. In hindsight, not our best decision.
  • Aug/05: Immune testing results: Heterozygous MTHFR, borderline APAs, high ATAs & TSH.
  • Sept/05: IVF #3 at SIRM: worst cycle ever! 7 retrieved, 6 fertilized, none to transfer due to embies arresting by day 3
  • Oct/05: Moving forward with adoption from China.
  • April/06: Adoption file sent for gov't approval
  • July/06: gov't approval for adoption
  • Aug 15/06: DTC! We're Group 273! :)
  • Sept 13/06: LID!! Waiting for our China referral which we now expect in 2012 or later. Meanwhile.....
  • Jan 25/07 & Mar 16/07: Consult at MFC with Dr. V.
  • May 23/07: Lap surgery - remaining tube drained & clipped.
  • Started Natural IVF at MFC in Aug/07 & completed 6 cycles with good embryos but all BFN. 6th NIVF in July, 2008 - transferred 8-cell embryo with IVIG: BFN
  • Oct/08: IVF with injections. 7 eggs, 6 fertilized. IVIG infusion on ER day. Two 5-day blasts transferred & 2 frozen. BFN
  • Nov/08: Additional testing thru Alan Beer Cntr for immune issues showed low LADS (blocking antibodies) & high cytokines, in addition to already known immune issues. LIT & Humira recommended treatment.
  • Feb 13/09: Surgery removed remaining tube & small uterine septum.
  • Mar & April/ 09: Two LIT treatments in Mexico. LADS increased from 4 to 71%! BTW, that's really good!
  • May - June /09 - IVF: ER May 25 - 10 eggs, 9 fertilized; IVIG; transferred 2 5-day blasts & 4 to freeze.
  • Beta test: June 11th>>> Finally a BFP at 518!!!!
  • July 2nd - 1st ultrasound: 2 heartbeats, but only one measuring strong and at expected size.
  • Jul 16th - 2nd u/s: 1 strong heartbeat & our little bean did a dance for us.
  • Aug 5th: 3rd u/s & OB consult - our little bean is looking more like a baby and everything is on target.
  • Sept 23: 18 week check-up (in my 19th week) - We're expecting a baby girl and everything is looking perfect!!
  • EDD: Feb 17/10
  • Our beautiful baby girl arrived early on Tues, Jan 19, 2010.
  • April/10: Withdrew adoption file for China adoption due to extending wait times.
  • Dec /11: Follow-up AEB testing completed. Feb /12: AEB test results: super high cytokines, high TSH, high NKs and borderline MTHFR. Recommended treatment is increase thyroid meds, IVIG, Humira, lovenox, BA and extra folic acid.
  • 2 doses Humira 2 wks apart (June 14 & June 28)
  • Natural FET: Aug 22: CD1. Aug 29th: monitoring starts. Sept 7: IVIG; Sept 8th: transfer 2 frozen blasts. Sept 20th - 1st beta: 66. Sept 24th - repeat beta: 174. Sept 26th - 3rd beta: 284. Sept 28th - 4th beta 457: Oct 1st - 5th beta: 716. Not doubling as expected with a normal pregnancy. Oct 3rd- beta: 1033; u/s to confirm location/ viability: a 6 wk gestational sac in the right place with a flicker of a heartbeat. Oct 9: u/s showed bean with heart rate of 122 and right size. Oct 19th - u/s: We are so sad that there is no heartbeat and embryo stopped growing. :(

#23 aprilbaby

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:26 AM

TTC#1

One more question..what is the total cost of nivf?


Lisa,

we adopted throught the public system. It took 6 months from finishing the homestudy to be matched. The whole process was free and took about 9months-1year that includes the course and the homestudy plus all the documentation to be filled. The process is nothing compared to international. Ds was 8 months and in perfect health. He is stunning! and he is extrememly bright. He was assessed and doctors think he shows many signs of giftedness. His genetic mother placed him for adoption. Friends I know adopted a newborn, they picked her up straight from the hospital through the public system after a very short wait also.

If you want to know more pm me and I would be happy to answer any questions.

#24 Jen-ttc

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  • Location:Toronto
  • Dx:Immunological
  • My Clinic:Markham Fertility Cntr - Dr. V.

Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:40 AM

April - Costs may have changed, so definitely check with the clinic. But, I remember it was $1000 plus meds (progesterone, antibiotics) plus anesthesia ($200ish) plus IVIG admin for me. That's interesting about the wait for adoption, because we were told quite a different story. AS you can see from my isggie, we've bene waiting for 3 years and will likely wait 3 more for our adoption from China to come through.
me (43) & DH (48)
Our darling daughter, Charlotte, born Jan 19, 2010
Furbaby: Lily the dog


Our loooooong journey to parenthood (I keep this to remind me of all the steps along the way and hope it helps others):
  • TTC #1 since 06/01 & charting since 03/02
  • Oct/02: Spontaneous ectopic pregnancy & right tube removed with emerg surgery
  • April 17/04: 1st IVF consult
  • June/04: IVF #1 - 21 retrieved, 2 grade A, 8-cell embryos transferred, 13 frozen: BFN
  • Aug 16/04: FET - 3 transferred & 8/18 - 1 transferred: BFN
  • Nov/04: IVF #2 - 11 retrieved, 9 fertilized, 4 transferred, none to freeze & another BFN
  • June/05: completed home study for China adoption, but put file on hold to pursue IVF at SIRM Las Vegas. In hindsight, not our best decision.
  • Aug/05: Immune testing results: Heterozygous MTHFR, borderline APAs, high ATAs & TSH.
  • Sept/05: IVF #3 at SIRM: worst cycle ever! 7 retrieved, 6 fertilized, none to transfer due to embies arresting by day 3
  • Oct/05: Moving forward with adoption from China.
  • April/06: Adoption file sent for gov't approval
  • July/06: gov't approval for adoption
  • Aug 15/06: DTC! We're Group 273! :)
  • Sept 13/06: LID!! Waiting for our China referral which we now expect in 2012 or later. Meanwhile.....
  • Jan 25/07 & Mar 16/07: Consult at MFC with Dr. V.
  • May 23/07: Lap surgery - remaining tube drained & clipped.
  • Started Natural IVF at MFC in Aug/07 & completed 6 cycles with good embryos but all BFN. 6th NIVF in July, 2008 - transferred 8-cell embryo with IVIG: BFN
  • Oct/08: IVF with injections. 7 eggs, 6 fertilized. IVIG infusion on ER day. Two 5-day blasts transferred & 2 frozen. BFN
  • Nov/08: Additional testing thru Alan Beer Cntr for immune issues showed low LADS (blocking antibodies) & high cytokines, in addition to already known immune issues. LIT & Humira recommended treatment.
  • Feb 13/09: Surgery removed remaining tube & small uterine septum.
  • Mar & April/ 09: Two LIT treatments in Mexico. LADS increased from 4 to 71%! BTW, that's really good!
  • May - June /09 - IVF: ER May 25 - 10 eggs, 9 fertilized; IVIG; transferred 2 5-day blasts & 4 to freeze.
  • Beta test: June 11th>>> Finally a BFP at 518!!!!
  • July 2nd - 1st ultrasound: 2 heartbeats, but only one measuring strong and at expected size.
  • Jul 16th - 2nd u/s: 1 strong heartbeat & our little bean did a dance for us.
  • Aug 5th: 3rd u/s & OB consult - our little bean is looking more like a baby and everything is on target.
  • Sept 23: 18 week check-up (in my 19th week) - We're expecting a baby girl and everything is looking perfect!!
  • EDD: Feb 17/10
  • Our beautiful baby girl arrived early on Tues, Jan 19, 2010.
  • April/10: Withdrew adoption file for China adoption due to extending wait times.
  • Dec /11: Follow-up AEB testing completed. Feb /12: AEB test results: super high cytokines, high TSH, high NKs and borderline MTHFR. Recommended treatment is increase thyroid meds, IVIG, Humira, lovenox, BA and extra folic acid.
  • 2 doses Humira 2 wks apart (June 14 & June 28)
  • Natural FET: Aug 22: CD1. Aug 29th: monitoring starts. Sept 7: IVIG; Sept 8th: transfer 2 frozen blasts. Sept 20th - 1st beta: 66. Sept 24th - repeat beta: 174. Sept 26th - 3rd beta: 284. Sept 28th - 4th beta 457: Oct 1st - 5th beta: 716. Not doubling as expected with a normal pregnancy. Oct 3rd- beta: 1033; u/s to confirm location/ viability: a 6 wk gestational sac in the right place with a flicker of a heartbeat. Oct 9: u/s showed bean with heart rate of 122 and right size. Oct 19th - u/s: We are so sad that there is no heartbeat and embryo stopped growing. :(

#25 Lisa1995

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:09 PM

Jen, I like what you say above about Dr V and his careful stimming. I was on what was considered a low dose of stims with my old RE and always made lots of eggs. I kept asking her about stimming less and she said I was already on what is considered a low does (I believe 150 iu of puregon and my last cycle a combo of 75 puregon 75 repronex). Anyway, Dr. V saw what my E2 levels had gotten to in all of my cycles and he himself pointed out he thought they were too high and that he would stimulate me less. I was impressed that he felt that way after my old RE did not do anything about it even on my 3rd try. So hopefully his more gentle stim will get me to better results.

aprilbaby, thanks for the offer of the pm. DH and I have lots of questions about adoption whirling in our heads, so I may take you up on that offer soon.

TTC #1: starting in Feb 2005 "unexplained" (immune issues, elevated NK cells, 2 heterozygous MTHFR and 2 heterozygous thrombophilias - Factor XIII and PAI-1 mutations)
me-42, DH-42, married since 1995!
Tried: Naturopath, Chinese herbs, Acupuncture, Homeopathy
4 un-medicated IUI's BFN
IVF # 1 18 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 8 out of 16 fertilized (1/2 ICSI, half IVF), 5 made it to day 5 blast, transferred two, froze 3
first ever BFP m/c
FET #1 medicated, transferred two, started spotting 2 days later, full blown AF 5 days later (decided I don't react well to Estrace, will do natural frozen next time) BFN
FET #2 natural (but still with progesterone (crinone) support, transferred last blast from IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2 16 eggs retrieved, decided not to do ICSI this time since cycle #1 showed eggs could fertilize on their own, only 3 fertilized! None made it to blast for transfer no transfer! Disaster!
IVF #3 decided to add some repronex to the stims and do all ICSI. 18 eggs, 17 mature and 15 fertilized, 8 made it to day 5 blast. Transferred two blasts, froze 6 BFN
FET#3 added 3 HCG booster shots and doubled up on the crinone to prevent me from spotting early (as I often do), transferred 2 blasts, no spotting but a BFN anyway
FET #4- added ovidral just before my natural ovulation so they could pin point it more accurately with the 36 hour window, HCG shots again, plus double crinone BFN
January 2009 Consult with new RE in Markham - he finds a small septum, resected April 29, 09 - tells me to now try my last two frozen blasts
FET #5 - ET scheduled for June 15 (natural cycle with trigger, HCG booster and crinone) - BFN
On to Plan B- Switch clinic to Markham for
#4 Fresh IVF with IVIg, exploring immune testing - start BCP Sept 20. ER around week of Oct. 25
9 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured. 7 to work with. 4 out of 7 fertilized (Day 3: 1 8 cell grade 1, 2 8 cell grade 2 and 1 morula). Day 5 transferred 1 great blast and 1 morula (1 morula and 1 10 cell did not make it to freezing).
Beta Nov. 11 - BFP! (550) I am in shock!
Issues with spotting, Nov 20, second beta 11,000 and early ultrasound: saw gestational sac and yolk sac in the right place but concern about a cyst or possible ectopic near my ovary as well, 4 more ultrasounds over a 10 day period, last ultrasound on Dec. 2 'cyst' has not grown and baby measuring on target at 7wks, 1day with a heart beat of 153bpm.
Now taking Lovenox due to 2 heterozygous thrombophilias
Ultrasound on Dec. 18 (9 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 167
Ultrasound on Dec. 22 due to extra heavy spotting, baby still measuring on track, hb 167 and dancing
Ultrasound on Jan. 8 (12 weeks, 5 days) baby on track, hb 160, baby doing crunches!
18 week anatomy scan scheduled for Feb. 16 - they lost my blood work for the second part of the IPS so no results for that today (they took blood again) but the 18 week scan went great, baby looked awesome and even gave us a little wave in between sucking her thumb and inspecting her toes. Yes, I said "her" - it's a little girl!
20 week ultrasound at Mt. Sinai and they agree, so far so good.
IPS results are in and they are excellent!
EDD: July 19, 2010
Baby girl arrived at 39 weeks, 2 days! July 14, 2010 3:12 am, weighing 7 pounds even.
May 2013 - The IVF Journey continues...one last try to see if a sibling is in the cards...
Did LIT, IVIg, Lovenox and low dose aspirin. 5 eggs retrieved, 1 immature, 1 fractured, 3 to work with, 2 fertilized with ICSI.
June 5, day 3 transfer of 2 8 cell grade 2 embryos.BFN
April 2014, one very last try - natural IVF with intralipids this time, 2! dominant follicles, 2 mature eggs retrieved, both fertilize with ICSI, day 3 transfer scheduled for April 13, transferred 1 8-cell grade one and 1 6-cell grade one (also using Lovenox and low dose ASA) -BFN, we are really done, not sure if it is now my immune system, or old eggs now too.