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#1 Future Mommy

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:02 PM

DH and I are having to do a MicroTESE and ICSI to conceive. The Urologist thinks if we do a MicroTESE 'fresh sample' on the day of ICSI we will have the best chance of achieving healthy, growing 'babies'.
DH has "a sperm count of 0" in the several sperm samples he has given thus far.
MicroTESE is a surgical procedure where an incision in made directly into the 'sperm factory' and if there are any live sperm, it is asperated out and used for ICSI. There is a very low chance that there is anything to asperate...but we want to try any kind of sperm producing tricks there might be.

So, put em up... tell us everything you have heard to even remotely promote sperm production. Dr. says there is nothing he can do but show up for the appointment. We'd like to be a little more proactive.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice you can give us.
Me 32 DH 32
TTC since 2002
Dx PCOS Oct 2003 (day before our wedding)
AF constant since 2005 (as in no non-bleeding days)
DH unabstructed azoospermia
Went to KARMA for assistance 2004...hated Dr. Campenaro and left after initial tests
Applied for adoption with local CAS 2005 - no action
Tried a wide variety of natural approaches until 2008
Presently working with Dr. Hughes at CRC/Mac Hamilton
Getting Accupuncture 2x/week to control AF - it's working like a dream!
DH working with Dr. Fischer (Urologist)

Plan A: Micro TESE and ICSI on same day JAN 24 2009!
Day 1 Start BCP - Christmas Day
Day 5 Ultrasound/Bloodwork - 11 Follies in Left O, 17 In right O, all levels are 'normal' !!!
Jan 4 09 Start Superfact (.2 cc) - Jan 5 09
Jan 12 09 Start Puregon (150u)- Jan 12 09
Jan 17 09 Ultrasound/Bloodwork ... 3 Folicles (11mm, 10mm, 10mm) E2 3013
Puregon dose cut in half (75u)
Jan 19 09 U/S & B/W - Right O - 4 @13, 12, 12, 10... Left O - 4@11, 11, 10, 9 + 20 more follicles under 9mm E2 965
Puregon dose back up to 150u
Jan 20 B/W E2 771
Jan 21 CYCLE CANCELLED DUE TO FAULTY PUREGON!

Plan B: MicroTESE / ICSI scheduled for Feb 21 09
AF start Feb 9
Day 3 U/S - Estrogen level 111 - ovaries 'clean and clear'
Start Puregon Feb 11 150iu
Day 7 u/s lots of follies - all under 10mm, B/W 327
Start Oreglatron and low dose Hsg Feb 16
Day 8 u/s 15 follies each side, all under 10mm, B/W 547
Day 10 u/s all follies still under 10mm,, B/W 647
Increase Puregon to 225iu - try to stim the ovaries to work a little faster
Day 12 u/s 2 follies in Right 11, 11mm B/W 1947
Day 14 u/s 5 follies in Right 16, 13, 13, 12, 11mm and 2 in Left 12, 11mm B/W 4532!!
Estrogen a tad high - dropped Purgen down to 200iu
Day 16 u/s 6 follies in Right 16, 15, 14, 14, 12, 12 and 2 in Left 15, 12 B/W 7000+
Day 17 u/s 17 follies - 8-10 of them big enough to contain eggs. B/W over 10 000!
Going slow and low - looks like I am 3-4 day behind in growth... new date for ER March 1-ish

#2 Tdot

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:51 PM

DH and I are having to do a MicroTESE and ICSI to conceive. The Urologist thinks if we do a MicroTESE 'fresh sample' on the day of ICSI we will have the best chance of achieving healthy, growing 'babies'.
DH has "a sperm count of 0" in the several sperm samples he has given thus far.
MicroTESE is a surgical procedure where an incision in made directly into the 'sperm factory' and if there are any live sperm, it is asperated out and used for ICSI. There is a very low chance that there is anything to asperate...but we want to try any kind of sperm producing tricks there might be.

So, put em up... tell us everything you have heard to even remotely promote sperm production. Dr. says there is nothing he can do but show up for the appointment. We'd like to be a little more proactive.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice you can give us.

Hi! and welcome! There are tons of info on this site and lots of support! sorry to hear about your struggles!
Our infertility is Male factor as well... as far as improving counts.. there is not much he can do... eating healthy, no smoking(anything) boxer briefs no hot tubs etc. Stuff i am sure you have already heard. I do remember one thing from the orientation we went to before IVF with ICSI... there was a vitamin/supplement cocktail of sorts that was specifically for males... maybe ask your pharmasist since i can't remember what it was called..
Good luck with everything.
T dot
Married to DH 5 years
Together for 10.
TTC for 5 years
Male Facor
1st IVF with ICSI March 16-08
BFP!
Lost our baby girl June 18-08 (15wks 3d)

"Patiently" waiting for the next step.. FET.. got some dates!
Nov 11-Superfact Nasal spray
Tentative FET Dec 11 or 12th... I am so fricken nervous... please frosties thaw properly :)
FET Dec 15th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 embryos transfered!
Dec 24 9dp HPT- BFN- too early!?
Dec 28 13dp HPT- BFP- instantly!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK now I have to go for my beta on Tue! still so nervous!
Dec 30th beta#1-1015!!! woop woop
Jan 2nd beta#2-4045!!
First u/s Jan 15th!- One baby in there! with a HB of 128.
NT scan Fen 18th- Everything looks good baby measures 12w 1 day (a few days ahead)! HB 165
Prenatal Appointment- Feb 25. Good!
2nd Prenatal- March 25
Anatomy u/s- April 6... will be 18wk 3d

DS Born Sept 11, 2009 - he is just perfect ! and now over 2 years old!
Drum Roll! Surprise BFP "au natual".. are you kidding me?! this sounds funny but we weren't trying.
Week of Dec. 12 - 22 Weeks!

#3 Future Mommy

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:57 PM

Thanks T Dot.
I wonder if you are thinking of Macca root...?
I have heard good things about it.
Thanks for the reply
Me 32 DH 32
TTC since 2002
Dx PCOS Oct 2003 (day before our wedding)
AF constant since 2005 (as in no non-bleeding days)
DH unabstructed azoospermia
Went to KARMA for assistance 2004...hated Dr. Campenaro and left after initial tests
Applied for adoption with local CAS 2005 - no action
Tried a wide variety of natural approaches until 2008
Presently working with Dr. Hughes at CRC/Mac Hamilton
Getting Accupuncture 2x/week to control AF - it's working like a dream!
DH working with Dr. Fischer (Urologist)

Plan A: Micro TESE and ICSI on same day JAN 24 2009!
Day 1 Start BCP - Christmas Day
Day 5 Ultrasound/Bloodwork - 11 Follies in Left O, 17 In right O, all levels are 'normal' !!!
Jan 4 09 Start Superfact (.2 cc) - Jan 5 09
Jan 12 09 Start Puregon (150u)- Jan 12 09
Jan 17 09 Ultrasound/Bloodwork ... 3 Folicles (11mm, 10mm, 10mm) E2 3013
Puregon dose cut in half (75u)
Jan 19 09 U/S & B/W - Right O - 4 @13, 12, 12, 10... Left O - 4@11, 11, 10, 9 + 20 more follicles under 9mm E2 965
Puregon dose back up to 150u
Jan 20 B/W E2 771
Jan 21 CYCLE CANCELLED DUE TO FAULTY PUREGON!

Plan B: MicroTESE / ICSI scheduled for Feb 21 09
AF start Feb 9
Day 3 U/S - Estrogen level 111 - ovaries 'clean and clear'
Start Puregon Feb 11 150iu
Day 7 u/s lots of follies - all under 10mm, B/W 327
Start Oreglatron and low dose Hsg Feb 16
Day 8 u/s 15 follies each side, all under 10mm, B/W 547
Day 10 u/s all follies still under 10mm,, B/W 647
Increase Puregon to 225iu - try to stim the ovaries to work a little faster
Day 12 u/s 2 follies in Right 11, 11mm B/W 1947
Day 14 u/s 5 follies in Right 16, 13, 13, 12, 11mm and 2 in Left 12, 11mm B/W 4532!!
Estrogen a tad high - dropped Purgen down to 200iu
Day 16 u/s 6 follies in Right 16, 15, 14, 14, 12, 12 and 2 in Left 15, 12 B/W 7000+
Day 17 u/s 17 follies - 8-10 of them big enough to contain eggs. B/W over 10 000!
Going slow and low - looks like I am 3-4 day behind in growth... new date for ER March 1-ish

#4 Tdot

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:00 PM

Thanks T Dot.
I wonder if you are thinking of Macca root...?
I have heard good things about it.
Thanks for the reply

It is possible BUT it was a bunch of things that were to be taken at once... I am going to have to go and look itup now! LOL.
Married to DH 5 years
Together for 10.
TTC for 5 years
Male Facor
1st IVF with ICSI March 16-08
BFP!
Lost our baby girl June 18-08 (15wks 3d)

"Patiently" waiting for the next step.. FET.. got some dates!
Nov 11-Superfact Nasal spray
Tentative FET Dec 11 or 12th... I am so fricken nervous... please frosties thaw properly :)
FET Dec 15th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 embryos transfered!
Dec 24 9dp HPT- BFN- too early!?
Dec 28 13dp HPT- BFP- instantly!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK now I have to go for my beta on Tue! still so nervous!
Dec 30th beta#1-1015!!! woop woop
Jan 2nd beta#2-4045!!
First u/s Jan 15th!- One baby in there! with a HB of 128.
NT scan Fen 18th- Everything looks good baby measures 12w 1 day (a few days ahead)! HB 165
Prenatal Appointment- Feb 25. Good!
2nd Prenatal- March 25
Anatomy u/s- April 6... will be 18wk 3d

DS Born Sept 11, 2009 - he is just perfect ! and now over 2 years old!
Drum Roll! Surprise BFP "au natual".. are you kidding me?! this sounds funny but we weren't trying.
Week of Dec. 12 - 22 Weeks!

#5 pookie

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:27 PM

Hi-

Welcome!

Not an expert, but I read that Coenzyme Q10 helps and put DH on it. Our baseline sample was borderline, but after 4-6 weeks, reports were better. Not sure if it was coincidence in our case, but there is evidence supporting it. Here is a small scientific study indicating higher fertilization rates with ICSI....
http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9266524

Good Luck!
me- 35
DH 42
TTC since June 2005
IUI with clomid x 5 BFN
IUI with injectables x 2 BFN
Ivf #1 May 2008- Chem preg
IVF#2 Sept 2008- BFN
Changed clinics
IVF#3- BFP- TWINS 14d beta= 962
6 and 8 week US- Great! Right on track
12 week us: Baby A looks great, normal nuchal fold. Baby B- no HB (goodbye my little one- you were loved.....)

#6 Future Mommy

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 09:38 AM

Thanks so much.
What a great article!
Keep 'em comming folks!

So, can I get Co-enzyme at the health food store then?
Me 32 DH 32
TTC since 2002
Dx PCOS Oct 2003 (day before our wedding)
AF constant since 2005 (as in no non-bleeding days)
DH unabstructed azoospermia
Went to KARMA for assistance 2004...hated Dr. Campenaro and left after initial tests
Applied for adoption with local CAS 2005 - no action
Tried a wide variety of natural approaches until 2008
Presently working with Dr. Hughes at CRC/Mac Hamilton
Getting Accupuncture 2x/week to control AF - it's working like a dream!
DH working with Dr. Fischer (Urologist)

Plan A: Micro TESE and ICSI on same day JAN 24 2009!
Day 1 Start BCP - Christmas Day
Day 5 Ultrasound/Bloodwork - 11 Follies in Left O, 17 In right O, all levels are 'normal' !!!
Jan 4 09 Start Superfact (.2 cc) - Jan 5 09
Jan 12 09 Start Puregon (150u)- Jan 12 09
Jan 17 09 Ultrasound/Bloodwork ... 3 Folicles (11mm, 10mm, 10mm) E2 3013
Puregon dose cut in half (75u)
Jan 19 09 U/S & B/W - Right O - 4 @13, 12, 12, 10... Left O - 4@11, 11, 10, 9 + 20 more follicles under 9mm E2 965
Puregon dose back up to 150u
Jan 20 B/W E2 771
Jan 21 CYCLE CANCELLED DUE TO FAULTY PUREGON!

Plan B: MicroTESE / ICSI scheduled for Feb 21 09
AF start Feb 9
Day 3 U/S - Estrogen level 111 - ovaries 'clean and clear'
Start Puregon Feb 11 150iu
Day 7 u/s lots of follies - all under 10mm, B/W 327
Start Oreglatron and low dose Hsg Feb 16
Day 8 u/s 15 follies each side, all under 10mm, B/W 547
Day 10 u/s all follies still under 10mm,, B/W 647
Increase Puregon to 225iu - try to stim the ovaries to work a little faster
Day 12 u/s 2 follies in Right 11, 11mm B/W 1947
Day 14 u/s 5 follies in Right 16, 13, 13, 12, 11mm and 2 in Left 12, 11mm B/W 4532!!
Estrogen a tad high - dropped Purgen down to 200iu
Day 16 u/s 6 follies in Right 16, 15, 14, 14, 12, 12 and 2 in Left 15, 12 B/W 7000+
Day 17 u/s 17 follies - 8-10 of them big enough to contain eggs. B/W over 10 000!
Going slow and low - looks like I am 3-4 day behind in growth... new date for ER March 1-ish

#7 sethsmom

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 11:18 AM

our RE has suggested DH take ComplexB, and selenium....his sperm counts and motility has definitely improved over the past 6 months...
Grady David James, born December 17, 2010, 12:12 am, 7 lbs 2 oz.

#8 faithncourage

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 01:36 PM

Hi Future Mommy! My DH has the same problem and he did the MicroTESE.

The urologist explained to us that there was really nothing that could be done, and there was really only a 50% chance (even lower) if he could find anything. My Dh's account was 0..zipp. However, he did do the operation and there was hope. His urologist found 2 sperm, and was able to cut more tissue in the area that he found the sperm and have it looked more closely into, and it resulted in have 20 embroyos fertilized! During this procedure though I had to be prepped as well, and had my retrieval done at the same time, cuase it was best to have the fresh sperm instead of freezing it. If we froze it, he said that we could have had a lesser chance of having any to fertilize with my eggs.

We did the ISCI and they called us back to say that they had 20 embroyos and at the end of everything, and the whole waiting process to find out if there was any left to transfer, we had 2 transferred and 5 embryos frozen. It was a long journey and your DH will be uncomfortable for a few days but it is worth a try...

The clinic called me on July 29th to say that i was pregnant and my BETA level was at 100 so that was good news!! I am continuning to pray that those numbers continue to double!

My Dh and I were happy that we did do the retrieval at the same time...we basically stepped out in faith, because, if he did the TESE and there wasn't any sperm retrieved, I would have been left with all those eggs I had (28) and left to do donor back up. We were lucky that we didn't have to use the donor sperm..


p.s....also, the urogolist did some blood test for genetic disorders etc...and another urologist he was seeing before this current one, gave him CLOMID (ya i know...isn't that just for ladies?? ) to see if that would help boost up his hormones etc...but we personally didn't think that it helped in any way...

So future mommy, there is hope for us!!! I wish you all the best in whatever decision you and your husband make!!! Any questions, feel free to ask and i will try and answer them in any way that I can. I can really imagine how your husband must be feeling....take care! *huggz*
Me:30; DH:36
TTC for 5 years
Male factor azoospermia
Uterine polyp removed


1st Cycle (IVF/ICSI)[/b]
Micro-tese completed and found sperm with 5-6 vials of mircotese frozen! THANK YOU GOD!!
20 eggs fertilized and 7 made it to blastocysts
July15/08: Transferred 2 blasts
July26/08:BFP @ 11dp5dt Beta on July 29: 100! yay i'm pregnant
Aug.27/08: Miscarriage @ 7 1/2 weeks :(


2nd cycle (1stFET:)
Nov.11/08: FET transferred two blasts ( 3 blasts left)
Nov.21/08: hpt & 10dp5dt....faint positive and every day after much lighter!! :(
Nov25/08:Beta 9.6 (chemical pregnancy) :(
Dec. 1/08: miscarriage starts & tests for multiple miscarriages tested completed..all normal!
Jan. 22/09: uterine biopsy test...no issues..normal


3rd Cycle (2ndFET)
Feb.22/09: Endometrial Biopsy to make more stickier for implantation
March 20/09: FET transferred two blasts..50% chance...oh please Lord hear my cry!! (1 blast left)
March 29/09: 9dp5dt...a faint positive on a hpt!
March31/09: 11dp5dt...a fainter line on hpt..it's happening again..ANOTHER CHEMICAL PREGNANCY!!
April 3rd/09: Beta day...."NEGATIVE"
April6/09: AF starts with vengence!!!


May 2nd: first Accupunture appointment and loved it!
May 22/09: follow-up appointment with RE: Sono test booked and miscarriage test for auto immune completed
June 09: Sono test completed all looking good..thank God!
Miscarriage work up for auto immune test..normal!



Presently: It's a new year and Dh and I are preparing ourselves to start another cycle...here we come 2012!! Once we decide to cycle again it will be lupron,
Gonal-F 150 and Repronex 75,baby aspirin and fragmin, progesterone in oil and estrace.


[color=#800080]My dream to be a mom is still living on and i'm not giving up...this year is a year of great blessings and one of them will be our precious child(ren) that I will be blessed with this year..staying very positive and believing it WILL happen!!

#9 Future Mommy

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 11:02 PM

OMG Twinangel... your story sounds exactly like what i want mine to turn out like!
i am going to go tell Dh the good news!
Thank you so much and all the blessings in the world for you and baby... i hope to be in your shoes in November!
Ps... can you share which clinic you went through... just for reference.
thx
Me 32 DH 32
TTC since 2002
Dx PCOS Oct 2003 (day before our wedding)
AF constant since 2005 (as in no non-bleeding days)
DH unabstructed azoospermia
Went to KARMA for assistance 2004...hated Dr. Campenaro and left after initial tests
Applied for adoption with local CAS 2005 - no action
Tried a wide variety of natural approaches until 2008
Presently working with Dr. Hughes at CRC/Mac Hamilton
Getting Accupuncture 2x/week to control AF - it's working like a dream!
DH working with Dr. Fischer (Urologist)

Plan A: Micro TESE and ICSI on same day JAN 24 2009!
Day 1 Start BCP - Christmas Day
Day 5 Ultrasound/Bloodwork - 11 Follies in Left O, 17 In right O, all levels are 'normal' !!!
Jan 4 09 Start Superfact (.2 cc) - Jan 5 09
Jan 12 09 Start Puregon (150u)- Jan 12 09
Jan 17 09 Ultrasound/Bloodwork ... 3 Folicles (11mm, 10mm, 10mm) E2 3013
Puregon dose cut in half (75u)
Jan 19 09 U/S & B/W - Right O - 4 @13, 12, 12, 10... Left O - 4@11, 11, 10, 9 + 20 more follicles under 9mm E2 965
Puregon dose back up to 150u
Jan 20 B/W E2 771
Jan 21 CYCLE CANCELLED DUE TO FAULTY PUREGON!

Plan B: MicroTESE / ICSI scheduled for Feb 21 09
AF start Feb 9
Day 3 U/S - Estrogen level 111 - ovaries 'clean and clear'
Start Puregon Feb 11 150iu
Day 7 u/s lots of follies - all under 10mm, B/W 327
Start Oreglatron and low dose Hsg Feb 16
Day 8 u/s 15 follies each side, all under 10mm, B/W 547
Day 10 u/s all follies still under 10mm,, B/W 647
Increase Puregon to 225iu - try to stim the ovaries to work a little faster
Day 12 u/s 2 follies in Right 11, 11mm B/W 1947
Day 14 u/s 5 follies in Right 16, 13, 13, 12, 11mm and 2 in Left 12, 11mm B/W 4532!!
Estrogen a tad high - dropped Purgen down to 200iu
Day 16 u/s 6 follies in Right 16, 15, 14, 14, 12, 12 and 2 in Left 15, 12 B/W 7000+
Day 17 u/s 17 follies - 8-10 of them big enough to contain eggs. B/W over 10 000!
Going slow and low - looks like I am 3-4 day behind in growth... new date for ER March 1-ish

#10 pookie

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 12:39 PM

Thanks so much.
What a great article!
Keep 'em comming folks!

So, can I get Co-enzyme at the health food store then?


I have seen it at most natural and health food stores. Even at most drug stores

pookie :)
me- 35
DH 42
TTC since June 2005
IUI with clomid x 5 BFN
IUI with injectables x 2 BFN
Ivf #1 May 2008- Chem preg
IVF#2 Sept 2008- BFN
Changed clinics
IVF#3- BFP- TWINS 14d beta= 962
6 and 8 week US- Great! Right on track
12 week us: Baby A looks great, normal nuchal fold. Baby B- no HB (goodbye my little one- you were loved.....)

#11 faithncourage

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:20 PM

Future Mommy: Thank you very much for your wishes!! And I wish you and your DH allllll the best as well. Plz do keep me informed on everything and how things proceed. I will have you for sure in my prayers!

Keep in touch, because I truly know how you and your DH must really be feeling and going through.... Continue to be supportive to your DH because men DO take things like this very hard, EVEN if they dont really portray it.

Wishing you allll the best!!

:flowers:
Me:30; DH:36
TTC for 5 years
Male factor azoospermia
Uterine polyp removed


1st Cycle (IVF/ICSI)[/b]
Micro-tese completed and found sperm with 5-6 vials of mircotese frozen! THANK YOU GOD!!
20 eggs fertilized and 7 made it to blastocysts
July15/08: Transferred 2 blasts
July26/08:BFP @ 11dp5dt Beta on July 29: 100! yay i'm pregnant
Aug.27/08: Miscarriage @ 7 1/2 weeks :(


2nd cycle (1stFET:)
Nov.11/08: FET transferred two blasts ( 3 blasts left)
Nov.21/08: hpt & 10dp5dt....faint positive and every day after much lighter!! :(
Nov25/08:Beta 9.6 (chemical pregnancy) :(
Dec. 1/08: miscarriage starts & tests for multiple miscarriages tested completed..all normal!
Jan. 22/09: uterine biopsy test...no issues..normal


3rd Cycle (2ndFET)
Feb.22/09: Endometrial Biopsy to make more stickier for implantation
March 20/09: FET transferred two blasts..50% chance...oh please Lord hear my cry!! (1 blast left)
March 29/09: 9dp5dt...a faint positive on a hpt!
March31/09: 11dp5dt...a fainter line on hpt..it's happening again..ANOTHER CHEMICAL PREGNANCY!!
April 3rd/09: Beta day...."NEGATIVE"
April6/09: AF starts with vengence!!!


May 2nd: first Accupunture appointment and loved it!
May 22/09: follow-up appointment with RE: Sono test booked and miscarriage test for auto immune completed
June 09: Sono test completed all looking good..thank God!
Miscarriage work up for auto immune test..normal!



Presently: It's a new year and Dh and I are preparing ourselves to start another cycle...here we come 2012!! Once we decide to cycle again it will be lupron,
Gonal-F 150 and Repronex 75,baby aspirin and fragmin, progesterone in oil and estrace.


[color=#800080]My dream to be a mom is still living on and i'm not giving up...this year is a year of great blessings and one of them will be our precious child(ren) that I will be blessed with this year..staying very positive and believing it WILL happen!!

#12 hoping/praying

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:31 PM

My dh is taking a multivitamin, Salmon Oil Capsules, L-carnitine, Selenium, Zinc, and CoenzymeQ10.

#13 faithncourage

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:34 PM

hoping/praying: Does your DH feel that those medications that he's taking are working? And how long has he been on them?
Me:30; DH:36
TTC for 5 years
Male factor azoospermia
Uterine polyp removed


1st Cycle (IVF/ICSI)[/b]
Micro-tese completed and found sperm with 5-6 vials of mircotese frozen! THANK YOU GOD!!
20 eggs fertilized and 7 made it to blastocysts
July15/08: Transferred 2 blasts
July26/08:BFP @ 11dp5dt Beta on July 29: 100! yay i'm pregnant
Aug.27/08: Miscarriage @ 7 1/2 weeks :(


2nd cycle (1stFET:)
Nov.11/08: FET transferred two blasts ( 3 blasts left)
Nov.21/08: hpt & 10dp5dt....faint positive and every day after much lighter!! :(
Nov25/08:Beta 9.6 (chemical pregnancy) :(
Dec. 1/08: miscarriage starts & tests for multiple miscarriages tested completed..all normal!
Jan. 22/09: uterine biopsy test...no issues..normal


3rd Cycle (2ndFET)
Feb.22/09: Endometrial Biopsy to make more stickier for implantation
March 20/09: FET transferred two blasts..50% chance...oh please Lord hear my cry!! (1 blast left)
March 29/09: 9dp5dt...a faint positive on a hpt!
March31/09: 11dp5dt...a fainter line on hpt..it's happening again..ANOTHER CHEMICAL PREGNANCY!!
April 3rd/09: Beta day...."NEGATIVE"
April6/09: AF starts with vengence!!!


May 2nd: first Accupunture appointment and loved it!
May 22/09: follow-up appointment with RE: Sono test booked and miscarriage test for auto immune completed
June 09: Sono test completed all looking good..thank God!
Miscarriage work up for auto immune test..normal!



Presently: It's a new year and Dh and I are preparing ourselves to start another cycle...here we come 2012!! Once we decide to cycle again it will be lupron,
Gonal-F 150 and Repronex 75,baby aspirin and fragmin, progesterone in oil and estrace.


[color=#800080]My dream to be a mom is still living on and i'm not giving up...this year is a year of great blessings and one of them will be our precious child(ren) that I will be blessed with this year..staying very positive and believing it WILL happen!!

#14 hoping/praying

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:43 PM

hoping/praying: Does your DH feel that those medications that he's taking are working? And how long has he been on them?


He's been on and off them since August 2007. He admits to feeling better overall on them and comments about his alertness and energy at night (he's more a morning person and is usually a zombie at night). The only thing we do know is that between our first and second IUI (only did 2 and they were spaced 6 months apart) his motility increased. He's been really 'good' at taking them now that we are gearing up for IVF. It was recommended by our RE to take them.

#15 hoping/praying

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:46 PM

If you go to soft-infertility.com you will find under Male Infertility, under Download Information, on pg6, the S.O.F.T "potion".

#16 faithncourage

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 03:32 PM

hoping/praying: that is great news to hear! and thanks for the info as well!
Me:30; DH:36
TTC for 5 years
Male factor azoospermia
Uterine polyp removed


1st Cycle (IVF/ICSI)[/b]
Micro-tese completed and found sperm with 5-6 vials of mircotese frozen! THANK YOU GOD!!
20 eggs fertilized and 7 made it to blastocysts
July15/08: Transferred 2 blasts
July26/08:BFP @ 11dp5dt Beta on July 29: 100! yay i'm pregnant
Aug.27/08: Miscarriage @ 7 1/2 weeks :(


2nd cycle (1stFET:)
Nov.11/08: FET transferred two blasts ( 3 blasts left)
Nov.21/08: hpt & 10dp5dt....faint positive and every day after much lighter!! :(
Nov25/08:Beta 9.6 (chemical pregnancy) :(
Dec. 1/08: miscarriage starts & tests for multiple miscarriages tested completed..all normal!
Jan. 22/09: uterine biopsy test...no issues..normal


3rd Cycle (2ndFET)
Feb.22/09: Endometrial Biopsy to make more stickier for implantation
March 20/09: FET transferred two blasts..50% chance...oh please Lord hear my cry!! (1 blast left)
March 29/09: 9dp5dt...a faint positive on a hpt!
March31/09: 11dp5dt...a fainter line on hpt..it's happening again..ANOTHER CHEMICAL PREGNANCY!!
April 3rd/09: Beta day...."NEGATIVE"
April6/09: AF starts with vengence!!!


May 2nd: first Accupunture appointment and loved it!
May 22/09: follow-up appointment with RE: Sono test booked and miscarriage test for auto immune completed
June 09: Sono test completed all looking good..thank God!
Miscarriage work up for auto immune test..normal!



Presently: It's a new year and Dh and I are preparing ourselves to start another cycle...here we come 2012!! Once we decide to cycle again it will be lupron,
Gonal-F 150 and Repronex 75,baby aspirin and fragmin, progesterone in oil and estrace.


[color=#800080]My dream to be a mom is still living on and i'm not giving up...this year is a year of great blessings and one of them will be our precious child(ren) that I will be blessed with this year..staying very positive and believing it WILL happen!!

#17 hoping/praying

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 05:17 PM

hoping/praying: that is great news to hear! and thanks for the info as well!



You're welcome! :)

#18 Future Mommy

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 11:24 AM

Thank you everyone!

We have an order in with our Vitamin Shop to be sure to have everything you mentioned. We figure it cant hurt to try everything!

Has anyone heard anything about this Macca Root? Anyone tried it? Lots of brilliant cliams on the web, but its hard to tell if that is just good marketing or the real deal.

Thanks again.
Me 32 DH 32
TTC since 2002
Dx PCOS Oct 2003 (day before our wedding)
AF constant since 2005 (as in no non-bleeding days)
DH unabstructed azoospermia
Went to KARMA for assistance 2004...hated Dr. Campenaro and left after initial tests
Applied for adoption with local CAS 2005 - no action
Tried a wide variety of natural approaches until 2008
Presently working with Dr. Hughes at CRC/Mac Hamilton
Getting Accupuncture 2x/week to control AF - it's working like a dream!
DH working with Dr. Fischer (Urologist)

Plan A: Micro TESE and ICSI on same day JAN 24 2009!
Day 1 Start BCP - Christmas Day
Day 5 Ultrasound/Bloodwork - 11 Follies in Left O, 17 In right O, all levels are 'normal' !!!
Jan 4 09 Start Superfact (.2 cc) - Jan 5 09
Jan 12 09 Start Puregon (150u)- Jan 12 09
Jan 17 09 Ultrasound/Bloodwork ... 3 Folicles (11mm, 10mm, 10mm) E2 3013
Puregon dose cut in half (75u)
Jan 19 09 U/S & B/W - Right O - 4 @13, 12, 12, 10... Left O - 4@11, 11, 10, 9 + 20 more follicles under 9mm E2 965
Puregon dose back up to 150u
Jan 20 B/W E2 771
Jan 21 CYCLE CANCELLED DUE TO FAULTY PUREGON!

Plan B: MicroTESE / ICSI scheduled for Feb 21 09
AF start Feb 9
Day 3 U/S - Estrogen level 111 - ovaries 'clean and clear'
Start Puregon Feb 11 150iu
Day 7 u/s lots of follies - all under 10mm, B/W 327
Start Oreglatron and low dose Hsg Feb 16
Day 8 u/s 15 follies each side, all under 10mm, B/W 547
Day 10 u/s all follies still under 10mm,, B/W 647
Increase Puregon to 225iu - try to stim the ovaries to work a little faster
Day 12 u/s 2 follies in Right 11, 11mm B/W 1947
Day 14 u/s 5 follies in Right 16, 13, 13, 12, 11mm and 2 in Left 12, 11mm B/W 4532!!
Estrogen a tad high - dropped Purgen down to 200iu
Day 16 u/s 6 follies in Right 16, 15, 14, 14, 12, 12 and 2 in Left 15, 12 B/W 7000+
Day 17 u/s 17 follies - 8-10 of them big enough to contain eggs. B/W over 10 000!
Going slow and low - looks like I am 3-4 day behind in growth... new date for ER March 1-ish

#19 hoping/praying

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 08:02 PM

My dh took Macca Root back in 2005 and in all honesty all it did was make him quiet "randy"! We spoke with a naturopathic dr (unofficially, he was working at a GNC store while finishing school) and he said it wouldn't help much so he just stopped taking it. I also took it in hopes of helping my cycles etc and it didn't help me either. I gave it a fair shot too, taking it for over 6 months. Now on the flip side of all that I have read it can help and if your dh doesn't mind taking a bunch of pills I would say it won't hurt to try it. It won't react to anything he takes, it's a root and is therefore safe to take. They say you can give it to your pets, children and women can take when pregnant.

#20 jules

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:38 AM

Hi Future Mommy...I haven't posted for a long time but came across your post and thought I could share our story... at least a little bit. My dh had some sperm when we were trying to conceive 4 years ago and we were successful with just the help of ICSE. When it came time to conceive our next child...the times had changed and dh had no sperm in any of his samples....we were given very low odds at conceiving and basicly, they told us to be happy with the one we had.

I was determined and they discussed TESE with us, saying that there was no guarantee they would find anything but it was our only hope. We asked about all the supplements/vitamins/roots for increasing production and they said that so far there was no evidence any of them work. (we had tried co-enzymes before we were directed to the TESE route with no success!).

We did TESE and only managed to fertilize 2 eggs but I am living proof that it only takes one embryo...as we were successful again!

The moral to my story...do what you think is right for you and your DH...and remember TESE can work!! So keep your thoughts as positive as you can, know that your uterus is like an oreo cookie which smooshes the embies so they can't fall out no matter how much you move around...that was a comfort to me as I was always afraid to move after my transfer...but the two times I was successful, were the two times I was too busy to think about it (one time we went on a family reunion camping trip the day after!!) and just kept on moving...!!

Hope that everything works out for you and best of luck.

Take care,

Jules :D
me 33, dh 47
male infertility
me...some egg problems?
1st IVF/ICSE Aug 03 2 embryos BFN
2nd FET Oct 03 2 embryos BFN
3rd IVF/ICSE BFP!! Feb '04 2 embryos (5 and 7 cell)
Beautiful baby girl Oct 21, 04 (Alexandra)
Try for #2
1st IVF/ICSE Apr 24, '06 2 embryos (7 and 10 cell) BFN
2nd IVF/ICSE/TESE ER July 31 ET 2 Grade 2 8 cell embryos
Yeah, BFP!!!!! One sweet little babe...HR 162
Due April 21st
We are having a darling son!!
Baby Jack is here...born April 22, 07 (7lb 11oz)
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:40 PM

wow jules..what a wonderful and inspiring story! God is good and it does only require one sperm and one egg! Congrats to you!!!!
Me:30; DH:36
TTC for 5 years
Male factor azoospermia
Uterine polyp removed


1st Cycle (IVF/ICSI)[/b]
Micro-tese completed and found sperm with 5-6 vials of mircotese frozen! THANK YOU GOD!!
20 eggs fertilized and 7 made it to blastocysts
July15/08: Transferred 2 blasts
July26/08:BFP @ 11dp5dt Beta on July 29: 100! yay i'm pregnant
Aug.27/08: Miscarriage @ 7 1/2 weeks :(


2nd cycle (1stFET:)
Nov.11/08: FET transferred two blasts ( 3 blasts left)
Nov.21/08: hpt & 10dp5dt....faint positive and every day after much lighter!! :(
Nov25/08:Beta 9.6 (chemical pregnancy) :(
Dec. 1/08: miscarriage starts & tests for multiple miscarriages tested completed..all normal!
Jan. 22/09: uterine biopsy test...no issues..normal


3rd Cycle (2ndFET)
Feb.22/09: Endometrial Biopsy to make more stickier for implantation
March 20/09: FET transferred two blasts..50% chance...oh please Lord hear my cry!! (1 blast left)
March 29/09: 9dp5dt...a faint positive on a hpt!
March31/09: 11dp5dt...a fainter line on hpt..it's happening again..ANOTHER CHEMICAL PREGNANCY!!
April 3rd/09: Beta day...."NEGATIVE"
April6/09: AF starts with vengence!!!


May 2nd: first Accupunture appointment and loved it!
May 22/09: follow-up appointment with RE: Sono test booked and miscarriage test for auto immune completed
June 09: Sono test completed all looking good..thank God!
Miscarriage work up for auto immune test..normal!



Presently: It's a new year and Dh and I are preparing ourselves to start another cycle...here we come 2012!! Once we decide to cycle again it will be lupron,
Gonal-F 150 and Repronex 75,baby aspirin and fragmin, progesterone in oil and estrace.


[color=#800080]My dream to be a mom is still living on and i'm not giving up...this year is a year of great blessings and one of them will be our precious child(ren) that I will be blessed with this year..staying very positive and believing it WILL happen!!